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Rob Pardo: The Next WoW Expansion is Going to be Awesome
It seems things are already in motion for the next World of Warcraft expansion and Rob Pardo is more involved this time!



Brawler's Guild Updates
The Horde Brawler's Guild was updated in the latest PTR patch, making it less plain looking. It is clearly still in the middle of changes, as a wall is missing and some NPCs are floating. Milhouse Manastorm will be making his return as one of the harder bosses you get to fight!



Pet Battle Rankings
If pet battles are not already exciting enough for you, maybe these rankings will help. WoWProgress added pet battle rankings this week, based on the number, quality, and level of the pets you have collected. The top ranked players are nearing 20 rare level 25 pets!

Along with this, we updated WoWDB to show the level at which pets learn a skill, which pets can learn a skill, if a pet can be traded or not, if a pet can battle or not, if a pet is unique or not, and more!




Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Mists of Pandaria Flying for Alts
WTB Book of Pandaren Flying (BoA - requires level 90 to purchase) = 2400gold, PST.
We're not sure if we'll be doing this. The tome worked out well enough for Wrath of the Lich King as an experiment, but so much of the experience we spent a lot of time and effort shaping in Pandaria is negated by flying. In addition to the upcoming reputation changes for alts (when a character on the account hits Revered), we'll consider other methods of potentially speeding up the leveling process for alts, but we don't think "allow flying" is necessarily the best answer. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Updated Raid Schedule Heart of Fear & Terrace
Oct 30: Heart of Fear (N)
Nov 6: Heart of Fear Part 1 (LFR), Heart of Fear (H)
Nov 13: Terrace of Endless Spring (N), Heart of Fear Part 2 (LFR)
Nov 20: Terrace of Endless Spring (LFR), Terrace of Endless Spring (H)


This is correct. It's a similar release to what we did with Mogu'shan Vaults.

Neth, any clue as to what the ilvl requirement's will be for HOF LFR?
The iLevel for the Raid Finder will be a minimum of 470. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blingtron 4000
"The Blingtron 4000 will be fully stocked with a variety of fun items such as Party Grenades, but even better than that, it has a chance (a very, very small one) to give the gift of an Engineering mount or pet."

Does that include the Depleted-Kyparium Rocket and Geosynchronous World Spinner

You are perceptive. There is a very small non-zero chance for a mount or pet from the Blingtron 4000 Gift Package. We heard you like bling so your pal Blingtron may be getting some minor upgrades to their bling in an upcoming patch.

With plenty of bling to go around, share the happiness. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Players Botting
But why would Blizzard ban bots?
They have a active subscription and pay money.
Why would any company reduce their own income on purpose?
It doesn't make sense... Allthough I don't like so many bots either.
But for them to actualy ban most of them, and lose out on so much money
from the botter's subscription.. Would they realy do that. I don't know.

I think Nevalistis summed this up quite well: This is one of the biggest misconceptions we have, and I genuinely wish we could permanently clear it up. I'll provide a few hypothetical situations (mind you, these numbers are ENTIRELY made up).

Let's say 90% of botters were compromised accounts. This means that 90% of these botters aren't paying accounts; they're stolen accounts, which are generally fueled by stolen credit cards. These payments usually get disputed and taken back, which actually costs us money. If we're looking to make a purely fiscal observation, it makes no financial sense to let these continue (aside from the fact that we don't like compromised accounts to begin with - we want our players to be playing their own accounts safely and enjoyably).

Let's go on the other side of the fence and say 90% of these botters were otherwise legitimate players paying for their accounts, as you purport. When players bot, other players are inconvenienced by this behavior (and trust me, you guys outnumber the botters, even if you may feel it's the other way around). The inconveniences range from normal players having difficulty farming on their own to struggling to keep up with an economy that's being forcibly fluctuated via unfair advantage. When players are inconvenienced in this manner, they submit petitions.

Every petition submitted goes to a Game Master for review. A living, breathing person that is paid to provide customer service looks over it, does what's necessary for the situation (in botting cases, usually forwarding the info on to our exploitation/hacks team), and provides a response. Let's say 1-2 people are inconvenienced by a single botter (in all likelihood, we probably get many more petitions per botter than that). This would mean each botter is inconveniencing at least as many, and likely more, players that are positive to the community (the kinds of players we like and want to continue to play our game). For each botter we allow to continue botting, we potentially stand to lose more than we gain for a single subscription, just out of the sheer inconvenience it causes other players.

Even if you change those numbers around of legitimate players versus compromised accounts - we only stand to lose more if we don't take action on bots (which we do, regularly).

And that's probably the problem. If I can stand in front of a guy who's botting who has about as many achievement points as me, then the only reason why he dares to bot is because he does not feel there is a risk of losing anything by doing so.

And the worst part is that right now it's difficult to say that he isn't right.

Those who choose to believe they are above detection range far and wide, I’m sure. Possibly because they may have been getting away with it for a time. However, we investigate every single bot report that comes in. We don't usually deal with the reports immediately because the underlying issue would remain in place.

What we do is study the bots, see exactly how they do what they do, and fix it so that they don’t work anymore. Once we’ve applied the fix, then the ban waves take place. By doing it like this, we can also come up with better methods of detection, and devise systems that are more effective against bot detection and removal.

Having said that, it's an on-going fight. Botters develop new bots by working out what we detected and fixed, and it starts all over again. In the process, we’ve ruled out one way of cheating the system though. I can’t go into much more detail without providing botters with information that would help them (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Death in The Arboretum
Yes, we know it's a little awkward to get back to your corpse here, and we're looking into the placement of the graveyard nearest to the Cloud Serpent dailies. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Warrior Tanking Feedback
would like to know what about it you like over the cataclysm model.
Getting rage when you use your abilities and not when you get hit and not being constantly at max rage.
Cata felt a bit spammy, constantly hitting cleave or heroic strike to spend rage was not my favourite thing. This got to the point where some players simply macro’ed HS to devastate because it was out of the GCD and still rarely got rage starved.

I’m really enjoying tanking with my warrior right now, I did enjoy it in Cata as well I must say, but it’s just better now, revenge and shield slam feel great, and you can use the rage that they generate for when you really need to minimize damage taken, or, if you feel confident about your survivability you can use that rage with offensive abilities like heroic strike, but it’s the decision making process that I enjoy, rage doesn’t feel free anymore, you actually have to think and make a trade-off, or even predict when you need to save more rage and build it up for a moment where you know it would be effective and efficient to use a mitigation cooldown like shield barrier or shield block, that’s just good design in my opinion. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Questing
Remove class specific quest rewards? When none of the items are an upgrade, I would always chose the one that sells for most
They are all worth the same amount now. (Source)

About questing in a raid group: I'm probably missing something, but what is problematic about people forming "questing raids"?
It is so efficient that it would feel mandatory. Every realm would have a continual Golden Lotus raid etc. (Source)

Will we need to be honored with Wrathion or have to have completed the legendary questline to do his new 5.1 questline?
Wrathion's Legendary questline in 5.1 is a continuation of the 5.0 quests, so you'll have to do them all!

Are you guys happy with the daily system playing such a large role in end-game content?
I think the valor and charms feel good because you can cap them. I think rep itself would be better with a cap. (Source)

Are you considering changing the reputation system? So many dailies are burning us down from the game. Tabards back?
When we tried limits, folks said we were playing nanny. When we tried nothing, folks said they didn't have anything to do. (Source)

World
Why can I not fly in Silvermoon? I cry every time I go back...
It would take months to fix, which means you'd get less other stuff. Challenging for us to justify. Org hard but still easier. We feel like BEs have been neglected a bit lately. We won't forget them. (Source)

The problem for me is that it's one of the situations you talk a lot about avoiding; taking an existing toy away from players. (Loss of increased running speed as a ghost)
It's often easy to make players happy in the short term but not the long term, even though the latter is more important.

Curse Weekly Roundup
Pico and the team are back with a special Halloween themed Weekly Roundup. It has some WoW, Minecraft, GW2, and LoL news, along with the weekly Game Forecast!

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  1. Breshone's Avatar
    Pet Battle Rankings on Wowprogress are weird. Why is having 3 of a poor quality pet worth more points than having 1 rare? Useless...
  1. Gilgallad's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Alceus View Post
    Rise of the Legion?
    The Legion is still there, in big numbers, ready to strike.


    I'd rather go with:

    World of Warcraft: Impending Dooooooooooom!

    =P
    Is that when the gnomes go crazy and invent nuclear bombs? :P
  1. Cipero's Avatar
    So I'm wondering, with the brawler's guild thing, since it doesn't seem to be instanced, how are they going to ensure everyone gets to see this content? It doesn't seem like it is directed toward hardcore players or casuals, but more so for everyone. Also, what kind of systems do they have in place that keeps people from camping the npc's that start the events? For instance...so and so is in a party with someone who is doing the brawler's guild, so he just stands there and starts the matches for them. I'm interested, because on paper this brawler's guild sounds awesome, but does it actually work? You must put in the variable that players are dicks most of the time.
  1. Chickat's Avatar
    I think inside wrathions locked box is a key to other planets.
  1. Avengerx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Breshone View Post
    Pet Battle Rankings on Wowprogress are weird. Why is having 3 of a poor quality pet worth more points than having 1 rare? Useless...
    Yep from what I saw it's pretty much get 3 of every pet you can find and show off your big numbers...


    Also someone mentioned that they never heard of complaints about bag space and not being able to fly in ghost form...there have been tons of complaints about these things, nothing game breaking but when you die eg: in jade forest at the dragon faction and you get ported up to a pillar with a gy on it and the only way to get down because of silly coast placement is to "force" spawn then that's a bit silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    I think inside wrathions locked box is a key to other planets.
    It's another crappy rogue legendary...
  1. DetectiveJohnKimble's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Merp View Post
    Pretty much this.
    After an expansion mainly based around Pandas and the pretty uninspired Monk class, almost anything will sound amazing.
    (No, don't even start telling me how stupid I am and how fantastic Pandaria is: rather try and talk about it to any non WoW-fanboy above 14y/o and he will tell you that the very concept is childish and lame. And no, don't tell me that we already have elves and orcs: not every fantasy element is equally childish or lame, there's lots of fantasy that more mature audiences appreciate, but it does not involve pansy pandas...).

    Bring the Burning Legion back, please.
    Ask most people above the age of 14 and they'll tell you that playing video games, let alone MMORPGs where you socialize with anonymous people on the internet, is childish/lame, whether it involves pandas, elves, demons, etc. What's your point?
  1. MrExcelion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Raeion View Post
    It's obvious that the next expansion is going to be about burning legion ( with all these locks quest chains and black temple )
    An interview recently did state that MoP wasn't their original planned expansion. I imagine they did this early in the design process, but I feel like the Legion expansion was supposed to be the next one, and this Warlock/BT stuff was going to be in the expansion.
  1. Heltoray's Avatar
    and here I thought Blizzard would announce their next expansion to be shit.
  1. docwyrick's Avatar
    I am fairly certain the legendary, Wrathion quest chain will be the most insightful piece of information regarding the future of Azeroth. The direction of this quest chain will show us what our next expansion will be. Blizzard seems hell bent on making him a huge player in the shaping of the world going forward. With that being said, I would love to see the Burning Legion return. I think it is safe to say that the majority of the players do not care whats next, as long as it truly seems epic. To me, again I think most would agree, the return of the Legion seems as epic and as grand of an event that there could be. You stave of the legion once and it almost ruined two worlds, only to have them come back stronger AND with their leader, the most powerful and most feared entity known in the universe.

    Blind faith tells me there is something larger about this whole Garrosh thing at the end of the xpac. I think we will see something we were not expecting.
  1. quras's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Farabee View Post
    They just released a new expansion and they're already hyping the next one? Seriously? At this point it feels like all we'll get is these 3 raids with all the gating going on.
    Yea its funny.

    The next thing we'll hear is blizzard telling the gamers that it's there fault MoP lost so many million subscribers cause we over-hyped the game.

    Nothing like blizzard starting the hype train years in advance. Leaves them room to blame the gamers later.
  1. Pancaspe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Wraylas View Post
    Poossibly WoW: the emerald dream, then wrap it up. Or is it to soon?
    Wrap it up? WOW has at least 20 years left
  1. duster2's Avatar
    Lets explain why he makes this comment now. Titan will be talked about alot next 2 years. Soon after Cata launched BLizzard put quite a bit of press out about Titan and got huge stick when 4.1 launched with 2 rewamped dungeons. At the same time press articles were saying many WOW devs had moved on to Titan and WOW sub money was used to cover the design cost of Titan.

    This time around... they are trying to make it look like they are not just thinking Titan. Its mostly PR tho - and everyone with half a braincell knows it.
  1. ThePvPremade's Avatar
    Pet Battle Rankings

    Fuck yeh, now we can finally have more 8 year olds play WoW
    Are we are going for "pet battle E-Sports" next?

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