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Rob Pardo: The Next WoW Expansion is Going to be Awesome
It seems things are already in motion for the next World of Warcraft expansion and Rob Pardo is more involved this time!



Brawler's Guild Updates
The Horde Brawler's Guild was updated in the latest PTR patch, making it less plain looking. It is clearly still in the middle of changes, as a wall is missing and some NPCs are floating. Milhouse Manastorm will be making his return as one of the harder bosses you get to fight!



Pet Battle Rankings
If pet battles are not already exciting enough for you, maybe these rankings will help. WoWProgress added pet battle rankings this week, based on the number, quality, and level of the pets you have collected. The top ranked players are nearing 20 rare level 25 pets!

Along with this, we updated WoWDB to show the level at which pets learn a skill, which pets can learn a skill, if a pet can be traded or not, if a pet can battle or not, if a pet is unique or not, and more!




Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Mists of Pandaria Flying for Alts
WTB Book of Pandaren Flying (BoA - requires level 90 to purchase) = 2400gold, PST.
We're not sure if we'll be doing this. The tome worked out well enough for Wrath of the Lich King as an experiment, but so much of the experience we spent a lot of time and effort shaping in Pandaria is negated by flying. In addition to the upcoming reputation changes for alts (when a character on the account hits Revered), we'll consider other methods of potentially speeding up the leveling process for alts, but we don't think "allow flying" is necessarily the best answer. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Updated Raid Schedule Heart of Fear & Terrace
Oct 30: Heart of Fear (N)
Nov 6: Heart of Fear Part 1 (LFR), Heart of Fear (H)
Nov 13: Terrace of Endless Spring (N), Heart of Fear Part 2 (LFR)
Nov 20: Terrace of Endless Spring (LFR), Terrace of Endless Spring (H)


This is correct. It's a similar release to what we did with Mogu'shan Vaults.

Neth, any clue as to what the ilvl requirement's will be for HOF LFR?
The iLevel for the Raid Finder will be a minimum of 470. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blingtron 4000
"The Blingtron 4000 will be fully stocked with a variety of fun items such as Party Grenades, but even better than that, it has a chance (a very, very small one) to give the gift of an Engineering mount or pet."

Does that include the Depleted-Kyparium Rocket and Geosynchronous World Spinner

You are perceptive. There is a very small non-zero chance for a mount or pet from the Blingtron 4000 Gift Package. We heard you like bling so your pal Blingtron may be getting some minor upgrades to their bling in an upcoming patch.

With plenty of bling to go around, share the happiness. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Players Botting
But why would Blizzard ban bots?
They have a active subscription and pay money.
Why would any company reduce their own income on purpose?
It doesn't make sense... Allthough I don't like so many bots either.
But for them to actualy ban most of them, and lose out on so much money
from the botter's subscription.. Would they realy do that. I don't know.

I think Nevalistis summed this up quite well: This is one of the biggest misconceptions we have, and I genuinely wish we could permanently clear it up. I'll provide a few hypothetical situations (mind you, these numbers are ENTIRELY made up).

Let's say 90% of botters were compromised accounts. This means that 90% of these botters aren't paying accounts; they're stolen accounts, which are generally fueled by stolen credit cards. These payments usually get disputed and taken back, which actually costs us money. If we're looking to make a purely fiscal observation, it makes no financial sense to let these continue (aside from the fact that we don't like compromised accounts to begin with - we want our players to be playing their own accounts safely and enjoyably).

Let's go on the other side of the fence and say 90% of these botters were otherwise legitimate players paying for their accounts, as you purport. When players bot, other players are inconvenienced by this behavior (and trust me, you guys outnumber the botters, even if you may feel it's the other way around). The inconveniences range from normal players having difficulty farming on their own to struggling to keep up with an economy that's being forcibly fluctuated via unfair advantage. When players are inconvenienced in this manner, they submit petitions.

Every petition submitted goes to a Game Master for review. A living, breathing person that is paid to provide customer service looks over it, does what's necessary for the situation (in botting cases, usually forwarding the info on to our exploitation/hacks team), and provides a response. Let's say 1-2 people are inconvenienced by a single botter (in all likelihood, we probably get many more petitions per botter than that). This would mean each botter is inconveniencing at least as many, and likely more, players that are positive to the community (the kinds of players we like and want to continue to play our game). For each botter we allow to continue botting, we potentially stand to lose more than we gain for a single subscription, just out of the sheer inconvenience it causes other players.

Even if you change those numbers around of legitimate players versus compromised accounts - we only stand to lose more if we don't take action on bots (which we do, regularly).

And that's probably the problem. If I can stand in front of a guy who's botting who has about as many achievement points as me, then the only reason why he dares to bot is because he does not feel there is a risk of losing anything by doing so.

And the worst part is that right now it's difficult to say that he isn't right.

Those who choose to believe they are above detection range far and wide, I’m sure. Possibly because they may have been getting away with it for a time. However, we investigate every single bot report that comes in. We don't usually deal with the reports immediately because the underlying issue would remain in place.

What we do is study the bots, see exactly how they do what they do, and fix it so that they don’t work anymore. Once we’ve applied the fix, then the ban waves take place. By doing it like this, we can also come up with better methods of detection, and devise systems that are more effective against bot detection and removal.

Having said that, it's an on-going fight. Botters develop new bots by working out what we detected and fixed, and it starts all over again. In the process, we’ve ruled out one way of cheating the system though. I can’t go into much more detail without providing botters with information that would help them (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Death in The Arboretum
Yes, we know it's a little awkward to get back to your corpse here, and we're looking into the placement of the graveyard nearest to the Cloud Serpent dailies. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Warrior Tanking Feedback
would like to know what about it you like over the cataclysm model.
Getting rage when you use your abilities and not when you get hit and not being constantly at max rage.
Cata felt a bit spammy, constantly hitting cleave or heroic strike to spend rage was not my favourite thing. This got to the point where some players simply macro’ed HS to devastate because it was out of the GCD and still rarely got rage starved.

I’m really enjoying tanking with my warrior right now, I did enjoy it in Cata as well I must say, but it’s just better now, revenge and shield slam feel great, and you can use the rage that they generate for when you really need to minimize damage taken, or, if you feel confident about your survivability you can use that rage with offensive abilities like heroic strike, but it’s the decision making process that I enjoy, rage doesn’t feel free anymore, you actually have to think and make a trade-off, or even predict when you need to save more rage and build it up for a moment where you know it would be effective and efficient to use a mitigation cooldown like shield barrier or shield block, that’s just good design in my opinion. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Questing
Remove class specific quest rewards? When none of the items are an upgrade, I would always chose the one that sells for most
They are all worth the same amount now. (Source)

About questing in a raid group: I'm probably missing something, but what is problematic about people forming "questing raids"?
It is so efficient that it would feel mandatory. Every realm would have a continual Golden Lotus raid etc. (Source)

Will we need to be honored with Wrathion or have to have completed the legendary questline to do his new 5.1 questline?
Wrathion's Legendary questline in 5.1 is a continuation of the 5.0 quests, so you'll have to do them all!

Are you guys happy with the daily system playing such a large role in end-game content?
I think the valor and charms feel good because you can cap them. I think rep itself would be better with a cap. (Source)

Are you considering changing the reputation system? So many dailies are burning us down from the game. Tabards back?
When we tried limits, folks said we were playing nanny. When we tried nothing, folks said they didn't have anything to do. (Source)

World
Why can I not fly in Silvermoon? I cry every time I go back...
It would take months to fix, which means you'd get less other stuff. Challenging for us to justify. Org hard but still easier. We feel like BEs have been neglected a bit lately. We won't forget them. (Source)

The problem for me is that it's one of the situations you talk a lot about avoiding; taking an existing toy away from players. (Loss of increased running speed as a ghost)
It's often easy to make players happy in the short term but not the long term, even though the latter is more important.

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  1. Thyrial's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by duster2 View Post
    lol - Lets see if there will be next expansion..... Many players leaving after first month of this one. Blizzard might be trying to put up a brave face - but they are just looking silly.
    Ok for one there's always been groups of people that leave after the first month of an expansion. Second, the number of people who don't like this expansion is so ridiculously small it's unbelievable. It's been received at least as well as WotLK if not better. Third, WoW could drop down to 2m players and it would still be profitable for them to produce new content for it. For them to not make another expansion something extremely drastic would have to happen which just plain hasn't. Finally, pretty much every returning player I've talked to is in love with this expansion so far, I would not be surprised if the sub count stays above 10m even with annual pass ending this month for most people.
  1. Aeluron Lightsong's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by trauma443 View Post
    Only honest ones.

    Implying Blizzard is lying *Facedesk*
  1. Remnas's Avatar
    "Looks at Brawler's Guild pics. Sees Robert Paulson as an undead."

    Mother of God...
  1. Immitis's Avatar
    as much as ill love what looks like an inevitable burning legion expac coming after mists im going to dread all the douchebags who will come back to try it out and all the threads saying "THIS IS BS BLIZZ I HAS TO LVLZ THROUGH DUMB PANDA POKEMONZ EXPANSION TO GET TO DEMONZ ONE THIS BULL CRAP AND ALL THE SPELLS ARE BROKEN AND PVP IS BAD RAWRARWGAHAWH"

    i expect a wowcrendor video making fun of those people around that time as well which will be the silver lining O-O
  1. deviantcultist's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by WizZz View Post
    World of Warcraft: Rise of the Legion

    I bet that is the name.

    You just wait.
    It could be demons but not necessarily the legion.
  1. Zokten's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron View Post
    Implying Blizzard is lying *Facedesk*
    yea they have no lied before!.......oh wait


    Anyways I find their talk about bots amusing
  1. Zathrendar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zokten View Post
    yea they have no lied before!.......oh wait


    Anyways I find their talk about bots amusing


    I think it's pretty spot on.
  1. Nindoriel's Avatar
    Makes me wonder, when will they announce the next expansion? Blizzcon 2013? I somehow feel it's a bit long until then. MoP will be out for more than a year if the next Blizzcon is in October 2013. The beta would either start shortly after the announcement or it might take two years for a new expansion to come out.
  1. OptimusDeadpool's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Wraylas View Post
    WoW: Hello kitty island
    or
    Wow: Friendship is magic
    New race: Ponies

    Racial Mount: Themselves

    Hilarity: Ponies mounting ponies when you earn Stormwind rep.
  1. Chickat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    Makes me wonder, when will they announce the next expansion? Blizzcon 2013? I somehow feel it's a bit long until then. MoP will be out for more than a year if the next Blizzcon is in October 2013. The beta would either start shortly after the announcement or it might take two years for a new expansion to come out.
    Betting on a June 2013 blizzcon.
  1. Vasti's Avatar
    WoW: There and Back again; a tale by Turalyon and Alleria
  1. Nindoriel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Betting on a June 2013 blizzcon.
    Any specific reason?
  1. Zathrendar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thyrial View Post
    Ok for one there's always been groups of people that leave after the first month of an expansion. Second, the number of people who don't like this expansion is so ridiculously small it's unbelievable. It's been received at least as well as WotLK if not better. Third, WoW could drop down to 2m players and it would still be profitable for them to produce new content for it. For them to not make another expansion something extremely drastic would have to happen which just plain hasn't. Finally, pretty much every returning player I've talked to is in love with this expansion so far, I would not be surprised if the sub count stays above 10m even with annual pass ending this month for most people.
    I wish they'd just make WoW 2.0. They've ruled it out but I'd rather they did that.
  1. Attsey's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron View Post
    Implying Blizzard is lying *Facedesk*
    Suggesting Blizzard never lie *Facedesk*
  1. Malenurse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Killmaim Deathbringer View Post
    Because a Blizzard Employee is going to say "The next WoW Expansion is going to be shit", right guys?
    If he thought that way, he wouldnt write anythin. Also, if it's him involved he's much more powerful inside the company that current devs who "maintain" wow. So yea, he can say how the expansion will be, and if he says it's going to be awesom, it will be awsom, because this is the dude who made decisions in Vanilla/TBC with J. Kaplan.
  1. Chickat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nindoriel View Post
    Any specific reason?
    Since there wasn't one this year, and the fact that I think they will be releasing xpac 5 faster then mop. Guessing on a March or April 2014 xpac 5 release date. So maybe it should be in August, since there have been 2 Blizzcons in August before. June is just wishful thinking I guess, but I definitely think Blizzcon will be before October.

    I think Blizzcon 2013 will announce wow expansion 5, what diablo expansion 1 will be, and hopefully Titan.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-28 at 05:58 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Malenurse View Post
    If he thought that way, he wouldnt write anythin. Also, if it's him involved he's much more powerful inside the company that current devs who "maintain" wow. So yea, he can say how the expansion will be, and if he says it's going to be awesom, it will be awsom, because this is the dude who made decisions in Vanilla/TBC with J. Kaplan. Remember that Pardo is one of the ppl who created this game from scratch.
    Oh god cataclysm 2.0. But seriously If he says its awesome I believe him. Did he work on wrath as well?
  1. Malenurse's Avatar
    He created this game with Kaplan from scratch, so he knows this game better than anyone.
  1. Immitis's Avatar
    world of warcraft: flames of the legion

    box art is of the tomb of sargeras with infernals raining down onto it O_O
  1. Malenurse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Oh god cataclysm 2.0. But seriously If he says its awesome I believe him. Did he work on wrath as well?
    He havent worked on wow since Wotlk launch, he and Kaplan both moved to Project Titan at that point.
  1. Chickat's Avatar
    I have to wonder if him and Kaplan will be coming back to WoW when Titans nearing completion, and blizzard hiring new devs for it.

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