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Rob Pardo: The Next WoW Expansion is Going to be Awesome
It seems things are already in motion for the next World of Warcraft expansion and Rob Pardo is more involved this time!



Brawler's Guild Updates
The Horde Brawler's Guild was updated in the latest PTR patch, making it less plain looking. It is clearly still in the middle of changes, as a wall is missing and some NPCs are floating. Milhouse Manastorm will be making his return as one of the harder bosses you get to fight!



Pet Battle Rankings
If pet battles are not already exciting enough for you, maybe these rankings will help. WoWProgress added pet battle rankings this week, based on the number, quality, and level of the pets you have collected. The top ranked players are nearing 20 rare level 25 pets!

Along with this, we updated WoWDB to show the level at which pets learn a skill, which pets can learn a skill, if a pet can be traded or not, if a pet can battle or not, if a pet is unique or not, and more!




Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Mists of Pandaria Flying for Alts
WTB Book of Pandaren Flying (BoA - requires level 90 to purchase) = 2400gold, PST.
We're not sure if we'll be doing this. The tome worked out well enough for Wrath of the Lich King as an experiment, but so much of the experience we spent a lot of time and effort shaping in Pandaria is negated by flying. In addition to the upcoming reputation changes for alts (when a character on the account hits Revered), we'll consider other methods of potentially speeding up the leveling process for alts, but we don't think "allow flying" is necessarily the best answer. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Updated Raid Schedule Heart of Fear & Terrace
Oct 30: Heart of Fear (N)
Nov 6: Heart of Fear Part 1 (LFR), Heart of Fear (H)
Nov 13: Terrace of Endless Spring (N), Heart of Fear Part 2 (LFR)
Nov 20: Terrace of Endless Spring (LFR), Terrace of Endless Spring (H)


This is correct. It's a similar release to what we did with Mogu'shan Vaults.

Neth, any clue as to what the ilvl requirement's will be for HOF LFR?
The iLevel for the Raid Finder will be a minimum of 470. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blingtron 4000
"The Blingtron 4000 will be fully stocked with a variety of fun items such as Party Grenades, but even better than that, it has a chance (a very, very small one) to give the gift of an Engineering mount or pet."

Does that include the Depleted-Kyparium Rocket and Geosynchronous World Spinner

You are perceptive. There is a very small non-zero chance for a mount or pet from the Blingtron 4000 Gift Package. We heard you like bling so your pal Blingtron may be getting some minor upgrades to their bling in an upcoming patch.

With plenty of bling to go around, share the happiness. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Players Botting
But why would Blizzard ban bots?
They have a active subscription and pay money.
Why would any company reduce their own income on purpose?
It doesn't make sense... Allthough I don't like so many bots either.
But for them to actualy ban most of them, and lose out on so much money
from the botter's subscription.. Would they realy do that. I don't know.

I think Nevalistis summed this up quite well: This is one of the biggest misconceptions we have, and I genuinely wish we could permanently clear it up. I'll provide a few hypothetical situations (mind you, these numbers are ENTIRELY made up).

Let's say 90% of botters were compromised accounts. This means that 90% of these botters aren't paying accounts; they're stolen accounts, which are generally fueled by stolen credit cards. These payments usually get disputed and taken back, which actually costs us money. If we're looking to make a purely fiscal observation, it makes no financial sense to let these continue (aside from the fact that we don't like compromised accounts to begin with - we want our players to be playing their own accounts safely and enjoyably).

Let's go on the other side of the fence and say 90% of these botters were otherwise legitimate players paying for their accounts, as you purport. When players bot, other players are inconvenienced by this behavior (and trust me, you guys outnumber the botters, even if you may feel it's the other way around). The inconveniences range from normal players having difficulty farming on their own to struggling to keep up with an economy that's being forcibly fluctuated via unfair advantage. When players are inconvenienced in this manner, they submit petitions.

Every petition submitted goes to a Game Master for review. A living, breathing person that is paid to provide customer service looks over it, does what's necessary for the situation (in botting cases, usually forwarding the info on to our exploitation/hacks team), and provides a response. Let's say 1-2 people are inconvenienced by a single botter (in all likelihood, we probably get many more petitions per botter than that). This would mean each botter is inconveniencing at least as many, and likely more, players that are positive to the community (the kinds of players we like and want to continue to play our game). For each botter we allow to continue botting, we potentially stand to lose more than we gain for a single subscription, just out of the sheer inconvenience it causes other players.

Even if you change those numbers around of legitimate players versus compromised accounts - we only stand to lose more if we don't take action on bots (which we do, regularly).

And that's probably the problem. If I can stand in front of a guy who's botting who has about as many achievement points as me, then the only reason why he dares to bot is because he does not feel there is a risk of losing anything by doing so.

And the worst part is that right now it's difficult to say that he isn't right.

Those who choose to believe they are above detection range far and wide, I’m sure. Possibly because they may have been getting away with it for a time. However, we investigate every single bot report that comes in. We don't usually deal with the reports immediately because the underlying issue would remain in place.

What we do is study the bots, see exactly how they do what they do, and fix it so that they don’t work anymore. Once we’ve applied the fix, then the ban waves take place. By doing it like this, we can also come up with better methods of detection, and devise systems that are more effective against bot detection and removal.

Having said that, it's an on-going fight. Botters develop new bots by working out what we detected and fixed, and it starts all over again. In the process, we’ve ruled out one way of cheating the system though. I can’t go into much more detail without providing botters with information that would help them (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Death in The Arboretum
Yes, we know it's a little awkward to get back to your corpse here, and we're looking into the placement of the graveyard nearest to the Cloud Serpent dailies. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Warrior Tanking Feedback
would like to know what about it you like over the cataclysm model.
Getting rage when you use your abilities and not when you get hit and not being constantly at max rage.
Cata felt a bit spammy, constantly hitting cleave or heroic strike to spend rage was not my favourite thing. This got to the point where some players simply macro’ed HS to devastate because it was out of the GCD and still rarely got rage starved.

I’m really enjoying tanking with my warrior right now, I did enjoy it in Cata as well I must say, but it’s just better now, revenge and shield slam feel great, and you can use the rage that they generate for when you really need to minimize damage taken, or, if you feel confident about your survivability you can use that rage with offensive abilities like heroic strike, but it’s the decision making process that I enjoy, rage doesn’t feel free anymore, you actually have to think and make a trade-off, or even predict when you need to save more rage and build it up for a moment where you know it would be effective and efficient to use a mitigation cooldown like shield barrier or shield block, that’s just good design in my opinion. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Questing
Remove class specific quest rewards? When none of the items are an upgrade, I would always chose the one that sells for most
They are all worth the same amount now. (Source)

About questing in a raid group: I'm probably missing something, but what is problematic about people forming "questing raids"?
It is so efficient that it would feel mandatory. Every realm would have a continual Golden Lotus raid etc. (Source)

Will we need to be honored with Wrathion or have to have completed the legendary questline to do his new 5.1 questline?
Wrathion's Legendary questline in 5.1 is a continuation of the 5.0 quests, so you'll have to do them all!

Are you guys happy with the daily system playing such a large role in end-game content?
I think the valor and charms feel good because you can cap them. I think rep itself would be better with a cap. (Source)

Are you considering changing the reputation system? So many dailies are burning us down from the game. Tabards back?
When we tried limits, folks said we were playing nanny. When we tried nothing, folks said they didn't have anything to do. (Source)

World
Why can I not fly in Silvermoon? I cry every time I go back...
It would take months to fix, which means you'd get less other stuff. Challenging for us to justify. Org hard but still easier. We feel like BEs have been neglected a bit lately. We won't forget them. (Source)

The problem for me is that it's one of the situations you talk a lot about avoiding; taking an existing toy away from players. (Loss of increased running speed as a ghost)
It's often easy to make players happy in the short term but not the long term, even though the latter is more important.

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  1. Tonyhan's Avatar
    When players bot, other players are inconvenienced by this behavior (and trust me, you guys outnumber the botters, even if you may feel it's the other way around). The inconveniences range from normal players having difficulty farming on their own to struggling to keep up with an economy that's being forcibly fluctuated via unfair advantage. When players are inconvenienced in this manner, they submit petitions.
    See, I get this part. But I don't understand why just a few weeks ago Blues were defending their inaction against multiboxing. Does multiboxing not constitute a similar inconvience to PvP'rs? Those extra toons take up slots on teams and when you go up against one, you probably aren't going to enjoy yourself very much.

    I find their argument a highly discouraging one.
  1. Asphyxiate9's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thalais View Post
    So, WoW's newest expansion is so bad that the devs are already looking at the next cash cow, i mean expansion to draw from the idiots that throw their money at a very old and out dated game.

    Sorry for the insults, but all of you playing wow, really should get with the picture. Old game CHECK, Same glaring problems with said OLD game CHECK, Still sending your $15 a month to nerd-rage on youtube about how MoP sucks and Cata or other expansions were better PRICELESS. When you have no life and need to waste your money, get a VISA card, accepted by the money driven greed company called Blizzard. They say they will fix it, but we all know they wont.
    Its either pay to win, or sub fees these days, I'd say everyone would rather sub fees, its much easier to milk money through pay to win.

    Also, considered that the tweet was most likely referring to the story and lore? Lots of people are expecting the burning legion to return, and all who are expecting are extremely excited about it.
  1. Achaman's Avatar
    next race will be pigs probarly maybe flying pigs at that or pig form for druids something pigs..
  1. Malenurse's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferocity View Post
    But I am not quite sure that comeback of Pardo will fix all the damage done to the game.
    The game isnt really in a bad state for new players, but for old players, they really need to innovate something and vice president of blizzard is right person for that job, not only Pardo is a vice president of blizzard, but he's also one of the three people who initially created wow. It's his game, he'll know what direction it needs to take.
  1. Ragedaug's Avatar
    I foresee a BC v2.0 coming up next. Taking the fight to the Burning Legion, meaning we are leaving Azeroth again for the next Xpac's content. I don't see us completely defeating Sargeras yet and I still think we can get an Emerald Dream Xpac down the road. It's possible we will engage Sargeras as the end boss, but I see the victory over him being merely a setback. :-J

    *Also to note, I don't think MoP was planned from the beginning. I think it was more or less jammed in to help extend the life of the game postponing any eventual "ultimate raid boss fights". To that end, I think they have known about and been working on the next Xpac in some limited form or another for a while now. I really enjoy see Rob's unsolicited excitement about the upcoming Xpac. I can imagine with 11:30 time stamp (guessing time zone) that he just got out of a big meeting about it and is really stoked. I could be fooled admittedly, but I think we are seeing some honest excitement and emotions about what's coming out soon ™
  1. KrazyK923's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thalais View Post

    Sorry for the insults, but all of you playing wow, really should get with the picture. Old game CHECK, Same glaring problems with said OLD game CHECK, Still sending your $15 a month to nerd-rage on youtube about how MoP sucks and Cata or other expansions were better PRICELESS. When you have no life and need to waste your money, get a VISA card, accepted by the money driven greed company called Blizzard. They say they will fix it, but we all know they wont.
    Ignorant? Check
    Obviously didn't play MoP? Check
    Bashing for the sake of bashing? Check
    Failing? Check

    Grow up. MoP is fantastic. Personally I didn't mind Cata, but even the vast majority of the Cata bashers (Both "professional reviewers" and fans) admit MoP is great.

    If you're going to bash WoW, at least try a little harder.

    Lol.
  1. Soeroah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Thalais View Post
    So, WoW's newest expansion is so bad that the devs are already looking at the next cash cow, i mean expansion to draw from the idiots that throw their money at a very old and out dated game.

    Sorry for the insults, but all of you playing wow, really should get with the picture. Old game CHECK, Same glaring problems with said OLD game CHECK, Still sending your $15 a month to nerd-rage on youtube about how MoP sucks and Cata or other expansions were better PRICELESS. When you have no life and need to waste your money, get a VISA card, accepted by the money driven greed company called Blizzard. They say they will fix it, but we all know they wont.
    They've always planned a couple of expansions ahead. When Wrath came out they were already working on parts of Cataclysm and planning MoP. So I guess Wrath wasn't as good as people thought, let alone TBC.
  1. Chickat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Malenurse View Post
    The game isnt really in a bad state for new players, but for old players, they really need to innovate something and vice president of blizzard is right person for that job, not only Pardo is a vice president of blizzard, but he's also one of the three people who initially created wow. It's his game, he'll know what direction it needs to take.
    I couldn't agree more.
  1. Inhumanityy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draxz View Post
    WoW: The Return of "_____" (i'm guessing Illidan) maybe Medan.
    Nefarian & Onyxia
  1. Ragedaug's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draxz View Post
    WoW: The Return of "_____" (i'm guessing Illidan) maybe Medan.
    The Return of "Alleria"

    And introducing the new Ranger class. A non-pet, physical damage based class with 2 Ranged Trees and 1 Melee tree. They will share Agi Mail with Hunters & Enh Shaman.

    They will be the next "hero" class following DK's, and will be Level 80 following the starter zone quest line. They will have class specific ground & flying mounts.
  1. Sting's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragedaug View Post
    The Return of "Alleria"

    And introducing the new Ranger class. A non-pet, physical damage based class with 2 Ranged Trees and 1 Melee tree. They will share Agi Mail with Hunters & Enh Shaman.

    They will be the next "hero" class following DK's, and will be Level 80 following the starter zone quest line. They will have class specific ground & flying mounts.
    Mwah, doubt it. I think they want to do something about Plate intellect gear, since at the moment only one spec of one class has any benefit from it at all which are holy palas. Either it goes out the window entirely or we get another plate class that can use plate int gear. Perhaps a hybrid plate caster? Ranged dps / healing specs. Would be rather interesting to see how they'd balance it though.

    As I said earlier in the thread, the level cap is as good as confirmed to be 95.
  1. Kryoid's Avatar
    I would just really enjoy creating my own fine tuned character through selective talents that have 4 or 5 different paths so that not every toon is the exact same.. people should be able to customize there toon to say for EX. One person does PVP allot more so he would want an Extra Interrupt. But guy B plays PVE and he would rather have a Life leech or Life Steal or some type of Security when death has risen at his arms. Please put some thought into these talent trees and make them Actually Specialized to each Persons liking..
  1. mywifeinventedLFR's Avatar
    WORLD of WARCRAFT
    "THE HOPEFUL RETURN OF THE 7 MILLION SUBS"
  1. Zilua's Avatar
    Yay brawlers guild
  1. Howard Moon's Avatar
    Me fail English on Twitter? That's unpossible!
  1. Achaman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragedaug View Post
    The Return of "Alleria"

    And introducing the new Ranger class. A non-pet, physical damage based class with 2 Ranged Trees and 1 Melee tree. They will share Agi Mail with Hunters & Enh Shaman.

    They will be the next "hero" class following DK's, and will be Level 80 following the starter zone quest line. They will have class specific ground & flying mounts.
    i doubt theyll make a petless hunter as its a waste of time just dont use your pet if your so antsy for one
  1. Spotnick's Avatar
    Well, if they introduced a new class, it would have to be a ranged.. but it makes so much more sense to introduced a 4th spec to every class already in game.

    Let shamans and warlocks tank, bring the battle mage and demon hunter, and, oh god, the shockadin.
  1. George's Avatar
    Any expansion would be awesome coming after mop.

    But yeah, get the Burning Legion back into action.
  1. Ragedaug's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Achaman View Post
    i doubt theyll make a petless hunter as its a waste of time just dont use your pet if your so antsy for one
    I suppose you are right, just like they would never have petless locks...oh wait, I just found out they recently introduced shadow priests into the game. Seems quite unpossible as they could never have 2 classes that do similar things in different ways amirite? /end_sarcasm

    You calling a ranger a petless hunter would be like calling a Rogue a plateless Warrior or a DK a Bloodlustless Shaman...or Shadow Priests a petless Lock. I don't understand what the hangup you are seeing is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    Well, if they introduced a new class, it would have to be a ranged.. but it makes so much more sense to introduced a 4th spec to every class already in game.

    Let shamans and warlocks tank, bring the battle mage and demon hunter, and, oh god, the shockadin.
    This is basically what I was thinking was that it would have to be ranged with the last 2 being melee, and considering there are already 5 classes in the game that are spell damage ranged vs 1 class that is physical damage ranged, I'm guessing a 2nd physical damage ranged class is next in line. That said I am guessing mostly out of what I wish to see versus having any evidence. To be honest I tend to agree with you as well, that before we see a new class, I would prefer to see a 4th talent option for all classes that at the very least would add a healing and/or tanking tree to all classes.
  1. Alltat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Grow up. MoP is fantastic.
    MoP is good, but a handful of design decisions is tainting the overall experience. Most notably the focus on daily quests. Being given the option to do daily quests is great, and getting valor points from dailies is a good change. Being forced to do daily quests to not get partially locked out of other (entirely unrelated) content is a horrible change. The most glaring being the requirement to farm reputations through dailies to spend valor, even if you gained that valor through dungeons or raiding. They basically took away the valor system from raiders and said they could have it back, but only if you do dailies. Changing the "daily" heroics back from seven per week to one per day (with half the reward for subsequent ones) was also a step backwards, as it once again rewards simply being able to play every day (rather than total effort invested).

    Bring back reputation tabards with the addition that you can't earn loot while wearing them, and the "get both loot and rep from dungeons" issue is solved, while giving people the option to earn reputations by other means than daily quests.

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