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Rob Pardo: The Next WoW Expansion is Going to be Awesome
It seems things are already in motion for the next World of Warcraft expansion and Rob Pardo is more involved this time!



Brawler's Guild Updates
The Horde Brawler's Guild was updated in the latest PTR patch, making it less plain looking. It is clearly still in the middle of changes, as a wall is missing and some NPCs are floating. Milhouse Manastorm will be making his return as one of the harder bosses you get to fight!



Pet Battle Rankings
If pet battles are not already exciting enough for you, maybe these rankings will help. WoWProgress added pet battle rankings this week, based on the number, quality, and level of the pets you have collected. The top ranked players are nearing 20 rare level 25 pets!

Along with this, we updated WoWDB to show the level at which pets learn a skill, which pets can learn a skill, if a pet can be traded or not, if a pet can battle or not, if a pet is unique or not, and more!




Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Mists of Pandaria Flying for Alts
WTB Book of Pandaren Flying (BoA - requires level 90 to purchase) = 2400gold, PST.
We're not sure if we'll be doing this. The tome worked out well enough for Wrath of the Lich King as an experiment, but so much of the experience we spent a lot of time and effort shaping in Pandaria is negated by flying. In addition to the upcoming reputation changes for alts (when a character on the account hits Revered), we'll consider other methods of potentially speeding up the leveling process for alts, but we don't think "allow flying" is necessarily the best answer. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Updated Raid Schedule Heart of Fear & Terrace
Oct 30: Heart of Fear (N)
Nov 6: Heart of Fear Part 1 (LFR), Heart of Fear (H)
Nov 13: Terrace of Endless Spring (N), Heart of Fear Part 2 (LFR)
Nov 20: Terrace of Endless Spring (LFR), Terrace of Endless Spring (H)


This is correct. It's a similar release to what we did with Mogu'shan Vaults.

Neth, any clue as to what the ilvl requirement's will be for HOF LFR?
The iLevel for the Raid Finder will be a minimum of 470. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blingtron 4000
"The Blingtron 4000 will be fully stocked with a variety of fun items such as Party Grenades, but even better than that, it has a chance (a very, very small one) to give the gift of an Engineering mount or pet."

Does that include the Depleted-Kyparium Rocket and Geosynchronous World Spinner

You are perceptive. There is a very small non-zero chance for a mount or pet from the Blingtron 4000 Gift Package. We heard you like bling so your pal Blingtron may be getting some minor upgrades to their bling in an upcoming patch.

With plenty of bling to go around, share the happiness. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Players Botting
But why would Blizzard ban bots?
They have a active subscription and pay money.
Why would any company reduce their own income on purpose?
It doesn't make sense... Allthough I don't like so many bots either.
But for them to actualy ban most of them, and lose out on so much money
from the botter's subscription.. Would they realy do that. I don't know.

I think Nevalistis summed this up quite well: This is one of the biggest misconceptions we have, and I genuinely wish we could permanently clear it up. I'll provide a few hypothetical situations (mind you, these numbers are ENTIRELY made up).

Let's say 90% of botters were compromised accounts. This means that 90% of these botters aren't paying accounts; they're stolen accounts, which are generally fueled by stolen credit cards. These payments usually get disputed and taken back, which actually costs us money. If we're looking to make a purely fiscal observation, it makes no financial sense to let these continue (aside from the fact that we don't like compromised accounts to begin with - we want our players to be playing their own accounts safely and enjoyably).

Let's go on the other side of the fence and say 90% of these botters were otherwise legitimate players paying for their accounts, as you purport. When players bot, other players are inconvenienced by this behavior (and trust me, you guys outnumber the botters, even if you may feel it's the other way around). The inconveniences range from normal players having difficulty farming on their own to struggling to keep up with an economy that's being forcibly fluctuated via unfair advantage. When players are inconvenienced in this manner, they submit petitions.

Every petition submitted goes to a Game Master for review. A living, breathing person that is paid to provide customer service looks over it, does what's necessary for the situation (in botting cases, usually forwarding the info on to our exploitation/hacks team), and provides a response. Let's say 1-2 people are inconvenienced by a single botter (in all likelihood, we probably get many more petitions per botter than that). This would mean each botter is inconveniencing at least as many, and likely more, players that are positive to the community (the kinds of players we like and want to continue to play our game). For each botter we allow to continue botting, we potentially stand to lose more than we gain for a single subscription, just out of the sheer inconvenience it causes other players.

Even if you change those numbers around of legitimate players versus compromised accounts - we only stand to lose more if we don't take action on bots (which we do, regularly).

And that's probably the problem. If I can stand in front of a guy who's botting who has about as many achievement points as me, then the only reason why he dares to bot is because he does not feel there is a risk of losing anything by doing so.

And the worst part is that right now it's difficult to say that he isn't right.

Those who choose to believe they are above detection range far and wide, I’m sure. Possibly because they may have been getting away with it for a time. However, we investigate every single bot report that comes in. We don't usually deal with the reports immediately because the underlying issue would remain in place.

What we do is study the bots, see exactly how they do what they do, and fix it so that they don’t work anymore. Once we’ve applied the fix, then the ban waves take place. By doing it like this, we can also come up with better methods of detection, and devise systems that are more effective against bot detection and removal.

Having said that, it's an on-going fight. Botters develop new bots by working out what we detected and fixed, and it starts all over again. In the process, we’ve ruled out one way of cheating the system though. I can’t go into much more detail without providing botters with information that would help them (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Death in The Arboretum
Yes, we know it's a little awkward to get back to your corpse here, and we're looking into the placement of the graveyard nearest to the Cloud Serpent dailies. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Warrior Tanking Feedback
would like to know what about it you like over the cataclysm model.
Getting rage when you use your abilities and not when you get hit and not being constantly at max rage.
Cata felt a bit spammy, constantly hitting cleave or heroic strike to spend rage was not my favourite thing. This got to the point where some players simply macro’ed HS to devastate because it was out of the GCD and still rarely got rage starved.

I’m really enjoying tanking with my warrior right now, I did enjoy it in Cata as well I must say, but it’s just better now, revenge and shield slam feel great, and you can use the rage that they generate for when you really need to minimize damage taken, or, if you feel confident about your survivability you can use that rage with offensive abilities like heroic strike, but it’s the decision making process that I enjoy, rage doesn’t feel free anymore, you actually have to think and make a trade-off, or even predict when you need to save more rage and build it up for a moment where you know it would be effective and efficient to use a mitigation cooldown like shield barrier or shield block, that’s just good design in my opinion. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Questing
Remove class specific quest rewards? When none of the items are an upgrade, I would always chose the one that sells for most
They are all worth the same amount now. (Source)

About questing in a raid group: I'm probably missing something, but what is problematic about people forming "questing raids"?
It is so efficient that it would feel mandatory. Every realm would have a continual Golden Lotus raid etc. (Source)

Will we need to be honored with Wrathion or have to have completed the legendary questline to do his new 5.1 questline?
Wrathion's Legendary questline in 5.1 is a continuation of the 5.0 quests, so you'll have to do them all!

Are you guys happy with the daily system playing such a large role in end-game content?
I think the valor and charms feel good because you can cap them. I think rep itself would be better with a cap. (Source)

Are you considering changing the reputation system? So many dailies are burning us down from the game. Tabards back?
When we tried limits, folks said we were playing nanny. When we tried nothing, folks said they didn't have anything to do. (Source)

World
Why can I not fly in Silvermoon? I cry every time I go back...
It would take months to fix, which means you'd get less other stuff. Challenging for us to justify. Org hard but still easier. We feel like BEs have been neglected a bit lately. We won't forget them. (Source)

The problem for me is that it's one of the situations you talk a lot about avoiding; taking an existing toy away from players. (Loss of increased running speed as a ghost)
It's often easy to make players happy in the short term but not the long term, even though the latter is more important.

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  1. Merp's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    Any expansion would be awesome coming after mop.

    But yeah, get the Burning Legion back into action.
    Pretty much this.
    After an expansion mainly based around Pandas and the pretty uninspired Monk class, almost anything will sound amazing.
    (No, don't even start telling me how stupid I am and how fantastic Pandaria is: rather try and talk about it to any non WoW-fanboy above 14y/o and he will tell you that the very concept is childish and lame. And no, don't tell me that we already have elves and orcs: not every fantasy element is equally childish or lame, there's lots of fantasy that more mature audiences appreciate, but it does not involve pansy pandas...).

    Bring the Burning Legion back, please.
  1. Ryme's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Merp View Post
    Pretty much this.
    After an expansion mainly based around Pandas and the pretty uninspired Monk class, almost anything will sound amazing.
    (No, don't even start telling me how stupid I am and how fantastic Pandaria is: rather try and talk about it to any non WoW-fanboy above 14y/o and he will tell you that the very concept is childish and lame. And no, don't tell me that we already have elves and orcs: not every fantasy element is equally childish or lame, there's lots of fantasy that more mature audiences appreciate, but it does not involve pansy pandas...).

    Bring the Burning Legion back, please.
    I'm not a fanboy, I quit the game often because I dislike the direction it's gone to. I quit in 4.2 and 4.3 because they were terrible content patches, for example.

    MoP is an absolutely stellar expansion from nearly all stand points (I don't PvP, so I can't judge there). It has incredible Raid, dungeon and quest content. Tons of new time and gold sinks, upgrades to professions, some of the best artwork ever seen.

    You're simply hung up on the fact that there are pandas in the game and are too narrow minded to see how little they actually effect anything in the game, seriously, replace them with the model of any humanoid and almost nothing else would need to be altered to fit.
  1. Azerox's Avatar
    I hope it will be a dark alien world themed xpac.
    Argus for example, but cant imagine a story for that.
  1. George's Avatar
    Let's hope for that. What we have now is silly.
  1. reffan's Avatar
    Well, you are wasting your time to reply on typical hater post. He just don't like pandaren because he don't like them, I am almost sure that there's no argument that would change his opinion, as for majority narrow minded people like him. Haters gonna hate.
  1. KrazyK923's Avatar
    MoP is good, but a handful of design decisions is tainting the overall experience. Most notably the focus on daily quests. Being given the option to do daily quests is great, and getting valor points from dailies is a good change. Being forced to do daily quests to not get partially locked out of other (entirely unrelated) content is a horrible change
    What exactly are you locked out of? Other dailies that you complain you don't like. With the removal of reputation requirements for the valor gear, dailies now are 100% optional.

    Essentially your solution to the problem is to go back to the old system where people bitched about doing nothing but sitting in SW/Org waiting for dungeons.

    Blizzard honestly cannot win.
  1. johnyderp's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    Let's hope for that. What we have now is silly.
    yeah WoW had always grimdark settings for edgy and mature players...
  1. mmaker's Avatar
    emerald dream.. always wanted to go there.. do it blizzard do it!
  1. Mousa's Avatar
    World Of Warcraft: The Legion Strikes Back
  1. Vovecka's Avatar
    C'mon ... We all know what's gonna be next - Argus and date with the Burning legion
  1. Aureth's Avatar
    I admit I haven't been keeping up with the teams and where folks are these days. I know Pardo was basically lead on Vanilla/TBC. I don't know how much he had been involved with the last 3 expansions though. I actually thought he was on Titan for some reason. I wonder why this little change-up came in? This could be good-even though Pardo was involved back in the day, I'd like to think the guy might have ideas of what would help freshen WoW up again somewhat, while not dropping a bunch of subs like Cata did. MoP gained a little chunk back, but I guess we'll find out what the yearly subs running out did soon enough(I think in a week we get the reports.)

    Interesting, all in all. I wonder if he's going to be lead designer on whatever the next expac is, or if he's just in a 'high position'.
  1. Ondonnick's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Merp View Post
    Pretty much this.
    After an expansion mainly based around Pandas and the pretty uninspired Monk class, almost anything will sound amazing.
    (No, don't even start telling me how stupid I am and how fantastic Pandaria is: rather try and talk about it to any non WoW-fanboy above 14y/o and he will tell you that the very concept is childish and lame. And no, don't tell me that we already have elves and orcs: not every fantasy element is equally childish or lame, there's lots of fantasy that more mature audiences appreciate, but it does not involve pansy pandas...).

    Bring the Burning Legion back, please.
    If you don't think playing a video game where you fight dragons as an elfs or goblins is childish then I don't know what is. Ask anyone who is not into video games and they will tell you it's a childish hobby, but it doesnt matter because we play it for fun. It doesn't have to be serious.
  1. Sharlok's Avatar
    WoW the Reset:

    after you reached lvl 90 you can ask a pandaren to transfer you to the new cont(in)ent for the cost of 30 levels. your reward will be an all new talent tree and 500 new pets (can only choose 3).

    its gonna kick ass
  1. haydude's Avatar
    I skimmed the comments and didn't see it mentioned (sorry if you did and I skimmed over it) but it's pretty clear the Wrathion storyline is the building block for the next expansion. His whole deal is that something big is coming and the Horde and Alliance need to stop squabbling and team up for it. Culminating with the end of Garrosh and the Horde finally getting their shit together internally, the next expansion will most likely be this big threat Wrathion keeps hinting at. My money is on the Legion, as many of you are also speculating. I also wouldn't be surprised if this next expansion has the Outland revamp they kept saying they wanted to do eventually, after the Azeroth revamp in Cata happened.
    This would also be a good time to bring Illidan back, which they seem to be hinting at doing, as well.
  1. Farabee's Avatar
    They just released a new expansion and they're already hyping the next one? Seriously? At this point it feels like all we'll get is these 3 raids with all the gating going on.
  1. Kathranis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Farabee View Post
    They just released a new expansion and they're already hyping the next one? Seriously? At this point it feels like all we'll get is these 3 raids with all the gating going on.
    They always start development of the next expansion as soon as the current one is released.

    Otherwise they'd have their concept artists, composers, cinematics team, etc. just sitting around on their hands for months and months waiting to go back to work.

    ---------- Post added 2012-10-29 at 02:23 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Emerald Dream is wrapped in lore afaik, I would put a decent bet on it being something to do with the burning legion's return, we've had so many hints to it now.
    Nope. In Stormrage they pushed the corruption into the Rift of Aln but it had already started to overflow again in Cataclysm. There are places in the Barrens and Mt. Hyjal, at the very least, where the Emerald Nightmare is already creeping out into reality again. Plus the Old God responsible for it (N'zoth) is still very much alive.

    I don't know if they'll make the Emerald Dream an entire continent or just some dungeons and a raid, but whatever the case, it's certainly gonna be added to the game eventually.
  1. Marema's Avatar
    Yes, a childish video game gets more childish with pandas! /sarcasm. I had no interest in the whole pet battle thing, but while leveling a new monk I gave it a try and found it quite addicting. Goes to show that people with open minds experience a lot more of the world then those who judge a book by it's cover. I feel sorry for those people.
  1. cateran's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ondonnick View Post
    If you don't think playing a video game where you fight dragons as an elfs or goblins is childish then I don't know what is. Ask anyone who is not into video games and they will tell you it's a childish hobby, but it doesnt matter because we play it for fun. It doesn't have to be serious.
    I don`t want to ruin your picture about what is childish and what not, but the elves and dragons are part of the human mythology and they are pretty ancient stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin
    Not even the Pandas are childish (even if I do not really like them) because in the Eastern cultures animal heroes are pretty common (1 of the most known is the Monkey King http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong)
  1. madrox's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    What exactly are you locked out of? Other dailies that you complain you don't like. With the removal of reputation requirements for the valor gear, dailies now are 100% optional.

    Essentially your solution to the problem is to go back to the old system where people bitched about doing nothing but sitting in SW/Org waiting for dungeons.

    Blizzard honestly cannot win.
    They only removed the rep requirements for JP gear and not Valor gear. I don't mind the daily quests but I think overall the content of MoP is sound but when everything is tainted with cheap time wasting tricks like larger than normal (but not challenging) mob health pools and no spirit flying and bags filling up at a ridiculous rate requiring time to micro manage and the enjoyment does become tainted. Hell. most of the ideas to bring back World PvP seem to have backfired at least on my server as most people just want to finish what they are doing and don't have the time or energy to get into PvP leaving me having had two World PvP battles in this xpac that was supposed to bring it back. When people complained about a lack of content in Cata, Blizzard tossed everything they had into this xpac, unfortunately that includes mundane time sinks everywhere for no reason other than to slow us down.
  1. Marema's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by madrox View Post
    They only removed the rep requirements for JP gear and not Valor gear. I don't mind the daily quests but I think overall the content of MoP is sound but when everything is tainted with cheap time wasting tricks like larger than normal (but not challenging) mob health pools and no spirit flying and bags filling up at a ridiculous rate requiring time to micro manage and the enjoyment does become tainted. Hell. most of the ideas to bring back World PvP seem to have backfired at least on my server as most people just want to finish what they are doing and don't have the time or energy to get into PvP leaving me having had two World PvP battles in this xpac that was supposed to bring it back. When people complained about a lack of content in Cata, Blizzard tossed everything they had into this xpac, unfortunately that includes mundane time sinks everywhere for no reason other than to slow us down.
    I can honostly say that I have never heard anybody complain about no spirit flying and bags filling up. Lol. And about the time wasting 'tricks'. You know you're playing a video game right? That in itself is wasting time. Gee, there are things in the game that you can do over and over, and somehow that is a 'trick'? I think the tricks on you for thinking that playing a video game is anything other then a 100% waste of time.

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