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Update: Hotfixes for the Crow and Darkmoon Glowfly are in flight. Crow captureable, Glowfly at all qualities.

Patch 5.1 Darkmoon Faire Updates
The Darkmoon Faire has started and Patch 5.1 added a few new things. The biggest addition is the new Darkmoon Carousel, which takes the place of one of the large under construction tents. It uses the nice new music that was added in Patch 5.1. Riding it gives you the WHEE! buff, which increases reputation and experience gains by 10%. Unlike some of the other event buffs, it does work with quests as well, so it will be useful for leveling reputation. This buff will last for an hour if you ride long enough but does not persist through death, so be careful!

If you are working on pet battles, the new Darkmoon Pet Battle! daily quest will let you fight a new pet battle trainer, rewarding you with Darkmoon Pet Supplies. The bag has contents that are similar to the Sack of Pet Supplies, but has a rare chance of dropping the Darkmoon Eye battle pet. So far we haven't seen one drop out of our small sample, so it is likely the drop rate is similar to the .2% of Porcupette.

Even if you aren't ready to battle just yet, there are three other new pets at the Darkmoon Faire. The Darkmoon Glowfly can be captured during pet battles on Darkmoon Island. The Crow will also be captured from battles on Darkmoon Island, but is currently bugged and uncapturable. The Darkmoon Hatchling is sold by Lhara for 90 x Darkmoon Prize Ticket.

Lastly, "Dusty" Brandom is now waiting for you at the entrance to let you use one of his Darkmoon Striders on the way down. This is the same model that is used by the Swift Forest Strider, sold for 180 x Darkmoon Prize Ticket.






Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
A friend was just offered Brawlers Guild Pass
As we've stated in the past, we want the Brawler's Guild to have that tight knit, underground kind of feel to it. So for now, it's going to be a lot tougher to get in. I'm sure you have other friends who would be willing to give you an invite for free or very cheap if they had one. As membership grows in the guild, so will the chance of one of them getting invited and having one to share with you.

Keep in mind, invites also occasionally drop from certain Horde and Alliance NPCs. Good luck! (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

New Character Models
New character models haven't been forgotten and are still being worked on. Our artists aren't ready to reveal what they got yet. When they're ready, you'll know! (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Any thoughts on boomkins in pve? no blue responses on forums or mentions in patches. feels like we are being ignored as a com
"Ignored" got so over-used that it stopped catching my eye expansions ago. (Source)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Can't believe I spent all of last raid with Holy Avenger instead of Divine Purpose. Was testing to see if DL/FoL got the 30% bonus. Nope!
I could have told you that! No responses to my bug reports, tickets to tweets to @Ghostcrawler about how Holy Avenger is buggy.

Holy: Looks like HA works with ToR after all. I have concerns, but if it's already working and not abusive, we see no reason to remove it. (Source)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
I'm pretty impressed you guys aren't falling victim to all the people whining about warrior damage. They'll be fine in 5.1 imo
Hard for folks to imagine how 5.1 nerfs feel so people keep falling back to how it feels today. Still broken = nerf plz!

Character
Why a weekly valor cap? I have thought about it and can't come up with a good reason.
Without a cap, progression oriented players might feel the need to play every waking minute. That can lead to just quitting. (Source)

Regarding the alt unfriendliness of MoP. You created a huge requirement sink and refuse to address the elephant in the room
If an alt gets every accomplishment your main has then you have few reasons to play that alt. There has to be a better design.
I disagree Greg. I play dif chars because I want to play a dif class, not to get some achieves. Make them all .net bound.
But what are you going to do on that character if it has everything the main does. Just raid? (Source)

Sometimes I wish WoW had a class system like FFXI. Not saying it would work, but I did like that character devotion
Yeah that's the extreme, where you level the account once and then play any class. (Source)

From the alt discussion, sounds like many think X you only have to do once and Y you should do every character. X and Y vary of course. (Source)

Some view alts as new char to build from scratch. Others see as just playstyle change fr. main, so build = repetitive hassle.
Yep, I agree that is the basic issue. Just concerned that if we make alts too trivial to progress that we lose gameplay. (Source)

What things do you keep in mind when making the decision if something should be account bound?
Many same questions. Does BoA mean the alt has a leg up or the alt is "done?" Leveling alts with no bonuses worked for years. I'm thinking that the role of alts and which accomplishments (inc rep) should be on the character or on the account would make a good blog. (Source)

Isn't the reason most people roll alts is to play different class. Not for achievements
But with enough sharing and XP bonuses you're just getting every class if you max out one. (Source)

So its not OK to expect to be able to taste the content you just lauched?
We make content all the time that isn't available to every player ASAP. In this case, you'll get there at some point. (Source)

I'm a mage and my transmog is the 25m T8. Could we have matching belt/boots we don't have access to, used in game by Rhonin?
We're looking at ways to introduce popular t'mog items that aren't available anymore. (Source)

PvE
Why do nerf cleave on Garalon, it always worked the same, on Zon'ozz for example, why dont nerf it before?
If you get a 400% bonus, the intent is not that your cleaves get that bonus. Rogues etc should be desirable not mandatory. (Source)

PvP
I am getting 1 shotted by either a mage or warrior, when my life is at 180k (half).
That's not the conventional definition of one-shotted. Many abilities hit for 100k. It's when you get to 400k that no counter.
One shotted can also mean dying in one GCD, from full, or as near as as makes no difference. This DOES happen.
No, that's actually the definition we use (one GCD) but from full health and only vs one opponent. (Source)

Based on some of these tweets, I'm thinking some of you won't be happy until the only spell left in PvP is autoattack.
Nice hyperbole....I think most people will be content just not getting instantly globaled by TFB/Stampede type abilities.
Those at least mentioned by several players. If you look at my tweets there are demands to nerf Lava Burst, HoJ, Hellfire... (Source)

Thats akin to having a skill with 99.99% 1 damage and 0.01% 1M damage. Rare doesnt mean TfB is balanced or good design.
It's possible to step into Arena and be crit by every single attack, but we don't balance around what's possible, just reasonable. (Source)

If gladiator players who you always mention think tfb is op then how can you not?...300k in arena should not be possible. done
We don't let players, even expert ones, balance the game for us. We appreciate their feedback, as we do all feedback.
I respect you, Greg Street, but how obvious does it have to be? 1-shotting is not OK no matter how RNG it is. EoD.
I actually agree with that, but nobody is 1-shotting you with TfB (or CB). 5-stack TfB crit does what 250K? 2 or 3 shot maybe.
With everything up and tier 2 it can go over 300k; and heroic strikes not on the GCD so HS+MS = 1 shot
Do you get MS for > 100K for a lot? If it requires every cooldown + MS + mastery proc + 5 TfB then we're in the realm of videos. (Source)

Did you try the approach of Rock paper scissor for PvP ? Or increase it if you consider it live already.
I don't think RPS works for WoW Arena because you've already picked your comp. That does not mean strengths and weaknesses are bad.
RPS on the talent system can work though. Having to figure out which talent set to pick to best defeat a comp is great
I don't honestly think RPS is a great metaphor. Even in RTS, rock can beat paper in the right situations. (Source)

Future
Weren't they supposed to be implementing a "hide enchants" feature? Or is it delayed until Dance Studio?
Dance Studio is just a huge project. Enchants require new code, but not new art or design. Much easier. (Source)

Questing
Do you plan to do something with the daily-reputation system? Many players hate it, and want tabards back
Grinding a rep out in one night by running a dungeon over and over is probably never coming back. (Source)

Without tabard spam dungeons feels really unrewarding past 463. Used to do it all the time in Wrath, hate it now.
We don't think having dungeon rep replace daily rep is the answer, but maybe we can come up with a compromise.
Why not? Seriously greg, it worked well in the previous expansions. Gate it if you want to pace it, but it worked
Disagree that it worked. I get that it was convenient but queuing for instances doesn't feel like a persistent world MMO. (Source)

Misc
Do devs ever make changes to game based on their personal (Live) play xpr? Not to buff themselves, but just improve things.
Sure. We sometimes notice bugs that slipped through or just something that doesn't feel as fun as we thought. (Source)

Wouldn't this encourage people to buy from gold sellers?
We try to give gold value while the best rewards unrelated to gold. A fantasy world with no gold economy would be odd. (Source)

So I'm curious Greg, what other games besides Blizzard's are you playing at the moment, if any?
Borderlands 2, XCOM, a little Arkham City, a replay of ME3 and some dumb iOS games. AC3, Halo4 in the pipe. I play a lot of games.
Do other games affect your design philosophy? I was affected by the openness in skyrim. Changed the way i see games
We play a lot of game and always looking for neat ideas or features that become expected or industry standard. (Source)

WoWDB Addon Data Collection
Finding the drop rate of things like Porcupette or adding new data like the Patch 5.1 Darkmoon Faire additions is done with the help of many players. The more people that contribute data, the more accurate and quickly we can update the database.

To help out, just install the WoWDB Profiler addon from Curse and check the box in the Curse Client options as seen below. When you are playing the addon will gather data and save it. When you are done playing, Curse Client will see the game close and upload the collected data from the addon.



Fan Art
Breathing2004 has added a new piece of art and made an updated version of an older one.



This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 5.1 Darkmoon Faire Updates, Blue Posts, Blue Tweets, Fan Art started by chaud View original post
Comments 45 Comments
  1. Kektonic's Avatar
    Why a weekly valor cap? I have thought about it and can't come up with a good reason.
    Without a cap, progression oriented players might feel the need to play every waking minute. That can lead to just quitting.
    This is the same bullshit they spewed when people asked for the daily cap to be raised or eliminated. "People would feel the need to spend all day doing them." It's like they're almost admitting their playerbase has a crippling addiction and are completely unable to control how much time they spend playing this game.
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lil View Post
    How exactly does mmo--champ decide which tweets to post?
    Albeit they're informative, I remember reading some of them weeks ago on Ghostcrawler's twitter.
    Catching up on old ones that have been in the queue for a while, still about two weeks behind.
  1. Quakefan's Avatar
    Were is Darkmoon Faire party hats, what Blizzard promise us with the next Darkmoon patch ?? I would like to have them for transmog.
  1. Moradim's Avatar
    dear god, ghostcrawler is absolutely clueless about pvp.

    you could argue he is clueless about pve too, but pvp? definitely.
  1. Ferrouswheel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Stevecow View Post
    "Do you plan to do something with the daily-reputation system? Many players hate it, and want tabards back

    "Grinding a rep out in one night by running a dungeon over and over is probably never coming back."

    So, is it not as simple as capping the amount of rep you get equal to the amount of daily rep you can get? Example: If I can only get 1000 rep from shadowpan dailies a day, then cap the amount of rep I can get in a dungeon with a rep tabard to 1000.
    I don't need anything from heroics. I run them because they are fun. Implementing a rep tabard with those restrictions allows people like me who enjoy dungeons to still get rep and still keeps people who love questing on the same pace. Both sides win. I get to do what I like and you get to do what you like.
    What they're not telling you is they want people out in the world to be ganked. Everything is centered around world pvp. They don't have the balls to say this cause all the people who play on pve realms would freak on him.

    "Why a weekly valor cap? I have thought about it and can't come up with a good reason.
    Without a cap, progression oriented players might feel the need to play every waking minute. That can lead to just quitting."

    Yeah GC, that's what is happening. Making us do 18 dungeons a week to get valor capped instead of 7 in cata. People are getting burned out and quitting.
  1. aatencio's Avatar
    Searched everywhere, cant find how to get to darkmoon faire
  1. Problim's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Moradim View Post
    dear god, ghostcrawler is absolutely clueless about pvp.

    you could argue he is clueless about pve too, but pvp? definitely.
    QFT

    Ever since he stepped to game, it's been going downhill in my books. MoP pve/generally is great and pvp feels really great with the exception of getting globaled from 80%+ HP. If only they would change that...
  1. Shiny164's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aatencio View Post
    Searched everywhere, cant find how to get to darkmoon faire
    Option 1: Go to Goldshire (Alliance) or Thunder Bluff (Horde). There are portals to the Darkmoon Faire just south of Goldshire and southwest of Thunder Bluff when it's in town (starts first Sunday of each month, lasts a week).

    Option 2: Find a Darkmoon Faire Mystic Mage (search for them on WowDB* and look at the maps), and ask them to teleport you to the portal. They'll charge a fee that depends on your level - from 25 copper at level 6 (my lowest level character) to 50 silver at level 90.


    * I can't post links yet, and whilst I'd normally recommend Wowhead over WowDB, Wowhead only shows the ones in SW, Org, and Darnassus.
  1. ZeroWashu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrouswheel View Post
    What they're not telling you is they want people out in the world to be ganked. Everything is centered around world pvp. They don't have the balls to say this cause all the people who play on pve realms would freak on him.

    "Why a weekly valor cap? I have thought about it and can't come up with a good reason.
    Without a cap, progression oriented players might feel the need to play every waking minute. That can lead to just quitting."

    Yeah GC, that's what is happening. Making us do 18 dungeons a week to get valor capped instead of 7 in cata. People are getting burned out and quitting.
    Cataclysm was pretty much proof he was clueless about PvE.

    They still never quite get the clue that the majority of their player base avoids PvP. PvP in a MMO is pretty much for fails from FPS games.
  1. bregtann's Avatar
    "we want the Brawler's Guild to have that tight knit, underground kind of feel to it"

    What is this - a Mean Girls MMO?
  1. Rupture91's Avatar
    The new DMF music is awesome. Sucks that it only plays when on the Carousel.
  1. Imhullu's Avatar
    I must've gotten really lucky. I got the darkmoon eye yesterday.
    It is pretty big on its own, with a biscuit it looks like a small blimp.
  1. Duniah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhullu View Post
    I must've gotten really lucky. I got the darkmoon eye yesterday.
    It is pretty big on its own, with a biscuit it looks like a small blimp.

    I got the darkmoon eye this morning:



    It's big and follows you very high in the air .D
  1. Korru's Avatar
    Holy crap, that's some groovy fanart there...
  1. Tedsterz's Avatar
    Thank god the tabards are never coming back. Make people work for stuff! YEAH!
  1. naturetauren's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Moradim View Post
    dear god, ghostcrawler is absolutely clueless about pvp.

    you could argue he is clueless about pve too, but pvp? definitely.
    Honestly, all pvp devs are useless.

    Remember when Blizzard themselves made thread how to balance pvp? Anyone, and i mean anyone forgetting about this propably started wow in cata, and its pretty damn much. I will never forgive blizzard for what they did to moonkins those days.
  1. ChocoboRanger's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tedsterz View Post
    Thank god the tabards are never coming back. Make people work for stuff! YEAH!
    go ruin a different game please, i hear tortanic calling.
  1. Stormykitten's Avatar
    Some of those quotes are quite old (comparably) for tweets, feels like it's pretty harmful to discussions to add some this late. For example the TfB ones appeared/was asked well before 5.1 hit the live servers. Some nearly 1 month old or more. Noticed this happening before in tweet postings as well.

    That said, Gc should be less defensive (though it's somewhat understandable), he often uses the other extreme as counterarguments which sort of trollbaits more replies - not sure if he's aware. Not all posters are incapable of seeing middle grounds.

    Also edited to add that breathing2004 is as usual insanely talented
  1. Wayne25uk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoboRanger View Post
    go ruin a different game please, i hear tortanic calling.
    How is working hard for something ruining a game ya lazy sod,no prizes for guessing your a fat lazy tool who gets mommy to fetch all his food and drinks because moving from the fart ridden chair your in would cause a seizure in your back!

    Inc ban from gaybot but i just cant stand this lazy attitude!
  1. Shaley's Avatar
    fart ridden chair, lmao.

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