Patch 5.2 PTR Early January - The Thunder King is Risen

Originally Posted by Anjerith

Actually a blue commented just yesterday on the continuation of *at least* the Blood Elf storyline in 5.2 so I would assume whatever the Alliance is doing would also continue.

Well I didn't think they'd ignore what happened in 5.1; I'm just wondering to what extent it'll be addressed. Heck, the BElf storyline could be "advanced" simply via a dungeon encounter a la the Nexus along with one-time quests.

I guess I'm uncomfortable with the idea that every patch brings a new faction with a daily questline to advance the narrative. I'd rather they took a patch off every now and then to allow us to concentrate on something else for a short time (and I'm not just saying this because I've barely started Operation:Shieldwall because I'm trying to get my alts and profs leveled >.> <.<)

Originally Posted by Anjerith

This, This so much. Flame Leviathan was the worst dump of a boss this game has ever had. Literally, every week, getting 25 people into their vehicles according to their gearscore to ensure they had the most hp possible for the various ways we were doing that boss. The length of time it took to get to him. Oh man it was awful.

The wow devs always have a tendency to overuse a new technology. If you recall, they had just added vehicle fights to the game. So they basically wasted a boss on it, and an entire heroic dungeon on it (Occulus). I think player feedback at the time taught them their lesson, remember they had to keep adding bonuses to Occ to get people to actually complete it if it was their random (blue drake mount).

The new tech this expansion is that wind/gravity effect. I would expect to see a few more bosses based around it.

Looks so much like Ulduar. I likes it.

Blizzard, if this really is as good as Ulduar - I fucking love you. EVERY raid should be on par with Ulduar, Karazhan, Serpentshrine - Big raids that can be explored beyond want's necessary are the best raids. Lots of bosses are good too, even if some of them are a joke.

Ok, lets kill some trolls!

Originally Posted by Azrile

The wow devs always have a tendency to overuse a new technology. If you recall, they had just added vehicle fights to the game. So they basically wasted a boss on it, and an entire heroic dungeon on it (Occulus). I think player feedback at the time taught them their lesson, remember they had to keep adding bonuses to Occ to get people to actually complete it if it was their random (blue drake mount).

The new tech this expansion is that wind/gravity effect. I would expect to see a few more bosses based around it.

That is so true. Occulus had so many changes and bonuses added to it just to get people to stay it was borderline moronic. Players in general hated that place but cause blizzard spent so much time on it they wanted to make sure people went to (and it was still a terrible instance)

You are right about how they use tech. I bet the wind/gravity effects get way over used.

Maybe new 5 man to go along with it. More war bears!

The thunder king has risen....to do more dailies

Originally Posted by crsh1976

Gotta love how they're now pre-announcing PTR releases to string players along for as long as possible.

Nope. People love news like this, it's what they want. They don't normally pre-announce things like this but it's just a little treat for Christmas.

Originally Posted by chrth

Well I didn't think they'd ignore what happened in 5.1; I'm just wondering to what extent it'll be addressed. Heck, the BElf storyline could be "advanced" simply via a dungeon encounter a la the Nexus along with one-time quests.

I guess I'm uncomfortable with the idea that every patch brings a new faction with a daily questline to advance the narrative. I'd rather they took a patch off every now and then to allow us to concentrate on something else for a short time (and I'm not just saying this because I've barely started Operation:Shieldwall because I'm trying to get my alts and profs leveled >.> <.<)

Operation Shieldwall takes about 15 minutes per day, probably less if you have raid gear. For horde, there is one set that takes me literally 5 minutes to do. (shoot down 6 helicopters, kill 8 soldiers, destroy 6 crates, kill 2 captians and blow up 2 ships). I have timed it.. 5 minutes.

Just to explain to people, raids take the longest amount of time for testing. These patches include not just a new raid, but a new pvp season and new tier of gear that requires testing and balancing. Along with new models animations..:raid patches take the most testing.

Originally Posted by Pilek01

There will be no new 5 mans like it was in Cata and the old expansions where you did catch up with ur gear true new 5 mans. After t15 releases people will still be doing t14 (expecting it to be a bit nerfed thou) to get gear for t15. Instead of new 5 mans to catch up blizz introduced the upgrade system and wont allow t15 items to be upgraded till t16 comes out.

Source or didnt happen.

Originally Posted by crsh1976

Gotta love how they're now pre-announcing PTR releases to string players along for as long as possible.

Lol...gotta love how people are negative Nate's over a game that's optional to play. If they "string you along", then that's YOUR problem.

Originally Posted by crsh1976

Gotta love how they're now pre-announcing PTR releases to string players along for as long as possible.

Announced the day before PTR goes live: "WTF, they could have given us some warning! I've been raiding kinda casually until now but PTR means live soonish, now I'm going to have to bust my balls to get geared for next tier or be benched QQ BLIZZARD!"

Or any of several other ways to pitch a "last minute warning" complaint. People WILL seriously complain about anything. Yes, I'm complaining about someone complaining. Care to complain about it and help make my point?

i cant wait, i hope Blizzard put nice new models and not use the mogu king and the normal mogus in bosses.

Originally Posted by Reyzzz

Source or didnt happen.

From GC's twitter feed:

Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

How can we expect ilvl upgrading to affect the tuning of future raid tiers?
Philosophically we want raids to be more about progression and less about instant catch up. (Source)
Going back to the old model where you have to progress linear through the raids from release of current expac?
That's the plan. We have older Raid Finder tiers now to provide the necessary gear. (Source)

That said, there will probably be new 5-mans. They would likely be either the same iLvl as T14 LFR or slightly lower.

Is this location currently in game? Looks pretty large and ominous, don't think I've ever noticed it before >_>

Originally Posted by velde046

Wonder where it will be located... Kun Lai Summit I'd expect....

The unused troll island northwest of Townlong

So you think we able to forge legendary weapons in this place? Or thats for the last raid of the expansion to fight Garrosh with?

Originally Posted by Poysonivy

So you think we able to forge legendary weapons in this place? Or thats for the last raid of the expansion to fight Garrosh with?

That will almost certainly be the last raid tier/patch of the expansion.