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Patch 5.2 Update - You Can Keep Your Valor!
It looks like the patch could be more than two weeks away now, so keep an eye out for the end of PvP season blog post.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
After reading your feedback and locking ourselves in dim, fluorescent-lit rooms for much deliberation, we have decided that we are NOT going to convert Valor to Justice and Justice to gold when 5.2 ships. Current Valor items will continue to require Valor in 5.2, and will be offered at a discount as listed in the PTR patch notes. Given that PvE and PvP currencies function quite a bit differently, Conquest will still convert to Honor and Honor to gold as previously discussed.

We’re making the Valor change for a couple of reasons, but primarily because we think a down-conversion under the new Mists endgame progression model just feels mean. We traditionally viewed this conversion process with each patch as a necessary evil to discourage hoarding—it’s not fun to feel like you can’t spend your Valor in the weeks before a new patch because you have to be ready to buy everything up. However, we have a Valor cap now to prevent excessive hoarding, many of the Valor rewards in 5.2 require raiding to acquire (for example, many of the ilevel-522 rewards are tied to Shado-Pan Assault reputation, which you’ll only gain rep with by raiding in the Throne of Thunder), and the LFR version has an ilvl-480 requirement, meaning you can’t hoard Valor on a brand new 90 and jump straight to the best stuff. All of these factors being considered, it doesn’t make good sense to take Valor away from players in this context. Down-conversions may occur for future patch releases depending on the circumstances, but for 5.2 it’s safe and snuggly where it is.

In addition, we’re making a change to ensure that there are some gear rewards available via the Kirin Tor Offensive and Sunreaver Onslaught, the two new factions with which players can earn reputation in 5.2 without raiding. The patch was shaping up to be a real challenge for players who don’t like raiding (including LFR), as our original design meant that no new Valor rewards would be available to them without needing to run Throne of Thunder. You can expect to see the Valor rewards on the Kirin Tor Offensive and Sunreaver Onslaught quartermasters updated on the 5.2 public test realms in the near future. These rewards are ilevel 496 and will only accommodate a few slots, as they aren’t intended to be very attractive to raiders (including those running LFR), but should give non-raiders something to shoot for in 5.2.

If you’ve already made plans and sank your Valor, don’t fret! As of this announcement, and even if you have 0 Valor currently, you still have enough time to cap out at 3000 Valor before patch 5.2 goes live. (It’s math!)

We’d love to hear your feedback about this change, and how you’re planning to earn, save, and spend Valor before the patch releases
This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 5.2 Update - You Can Keep Your Valor! started by chaud View original post
Comments 89 Comments
  1. nemro82's Avatar
    goddamnit, and I just spent my saved 3k yesterday on upgrades, since I don't need that useless justice, now I will have to grind them again...ffs.
  1. Acidbaron's Avatar
    If you spend it on upgrades, you now obtained ilevel stuff you will no longer be able to it's worth it for several slots.
  1. Vesker's Avatar
    So first we find out we only have 2 weeks to doll ourselves up for the next patch and now we find out all this valor we've been spending as fast as we can isn't getting converted into justice? Somebody help me sandpaper my face.
  1. Getreuer's Avatar
    That is great news for me!
  1. Thiron's Avatar
    Interesting. And nice. Quite a big gear-up boost for non-heroic raiders. And for alts especially.
  1. Ashijin's Avatar
    If this is 100% true it means we have at least 4 weeks until 5.2.

    If i were capped and spent my points earlier today before this post, and were now at 0 valor as of the post, it would take 4 raid weeks to get valor capped from now. Even if they aren't counting today (which would be quite an oversight) it still means we have at least 3 weeks.
  1. Drarion's Avatar
    well so that i didnt valor cap was actually a waste now? fuck
  1. Kunay's Avatar
    too bad with only 2 weeks prio to knowing it we cant even cap anymore, well played
  1. moveth's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kunay View Post
    too bad with only 2 weeks prio to knowing it we cant even cap anymore, well played
    Im just gonna assume that reading isnt your strong suit and copy and paste this from the blue post.

    "If you’ve already made plans and sank your Valor, don’t fret! As of this announcement, and even if you have 0 Valor currently, you still have enough time to cap out at 3000 Valor before patch 5.2 goes live. (It’s math!)"

    The end of Feb. date was tentative. Shit changes. Its no longer the end of Feb and most likely the first week of March.
  1. Kimiko93's Avatar
    For gods sake, and i used up my valor for nothing then-
  1. wintervictor's Avatar
    Blizzard: One more week for 5.2, Plan accomplished.
  1. Dotfix's Avatar
    Am I the only one who considers this to be extremely stupid and annoying?
  1. Granyala's Avatar
    Finally. Valor reset with a 3K cap in place wouldn't have made sense anyway.
  1. skitzy129's Avatar
    Great move by Blizzard. You SHOULD be spending your valor on upgrades anyway for the best edge going in to progression, and now that everyone has done that, they can easily cap out the rest before the patch drops.

    The timing on this worked out perfectly honestly. People just suck at interpreting the situation and looking at the entire picture.
  1. Papamidnyte's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zatheyll View Post
    They've lost 500k since MoP came out, not 3m.

    Also, first people say "listen to us!" and then when Blizzard listens to them they say "oh look, they're just doing whatever they are told!".

    I'm 100% sure Blizzard thinks through changes and does what THEY think is best. It might not be the best choice there is, so Blizzard takes feedback and improves it. Quit trying to bash Blizzard every option you get, it gets tiresome.

    Also, the change isn't as big as people think. It's not like people will be able to spend their valor for a few weeks on the new gear anyways. Starting with 0 valor now or at the start of the patch doesn't change anything except not getting any valor for a few weeks until you can spend what you have capped.
    kiss ass much? Blizzard is great but lets be honest there is also logic and all MoP is is dailies and more dailies and less actual content. I only now logon to do Raid and cap vp, otherwise i'm on GW2. now considering the thoughtful process to Combat rogues it mean i am now cancelling my account.
  1. MasterHamster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimiko93 View Post
    For gods sake, and i used up my valor for nothing then-
    For nothing?
    You mean that staying capped for 3-4 weeks until 5.2 release would be better?
  1. Peking_Man's Avatar
    Whats the point of capping 3k valor before 5.2?

    Will you able to spend them on something on the first week? No, because you will need to farm rep from raiding.

    This means that on the first week of 5.2 you will waste 1k valor.

    I think you should cap with 1,5k valor, the rest you should use on upgrades.
  1. Tarx's Avatar
    nice change but I don't play anymore
  1. Adramalech's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Peking_Man View Post
    Whats the point of capping 3k valor before 5.2?

    Will you able to spend them on something on the first week? No, because you will need to farm rep from raiding.

    This means that on the first week of 5.2 you will waste 1k valor.

    I think you should cap with 1,5k valor, the rest you should use on upgrades.
    Again, the Shado-Pan Assault reputation necklaces only require Neutral reputation, not to mention that current valor items will be reduced by 50% cost, which allows people to more easily buy some slots that they've been unlucky with.

    So yes, as soon as you can get to the quartermaster, you can immediately buy the neck.
  1. Rankin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Peking_Man View Post
    Whats the point of capping 3k valor before 5.2?

    Will you able to spend them on something on the first week? No, because you will need to farm rep from raiding.

    This means that on the first week of 5.2 you will waste 1k valor.

    I think you should cap with 1,5k valor, the rest you should use on upgrades.
    There are ilvl 522 neck pieces available at Neutral with the Shado-Pan Assault.

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