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Patch 5.2 Update - You Can Keep Your Valor!
It looks like the patch could be more than two weeks away now, so keep an eye out for the end of PvP season blog post.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
After reading your feedback and locking ourselves in dim, fluorescent-lit rooms for much deliberation, we have decided that we are NOT going to convert Valor to Justice and Justice to gold when 5.2 ships. Current Valor items will continue to require Valor in 5.2, and will be offered at a discount as listed in the PTR patch notes. Given that PvE and PvP currencies function quite a bit differently, Conquest will still convert to Honor and Honor to gold as previously discussed.

We’re making the Valor change for a couple of reasons, but primarily because we think a down-conversion under the new Mists endgame progression model just feels mean. We traditionally viewed this conversion process with each patch as a necessary evil to discourage hoarding—it’s not fun to feel like you can’t spend your Valor in the weeks before a new patch because you have to be ready to buy everything up. However, we have a Valor cap now to prevent excessive hoarding, many of the Valor rewards in 5.2 require raiding to acquire (for example, many of the ilevel-522 rewards are tied to Shado-Pan Assault reputation, which you’ll only gain rep with by raiding in the Throne of Thunder), and the LFR version has an ilvl-480 requirement, meaning you can’t hoard Valor on a brand new 90 and jump straight to the best stuff. All of these factors being considered, it doesn’t make good sense to take Valor away from players in this context. Down-conversions may occur for future patch releases depending on the circumstances, but for 5.2 it’s safe and snuggly where it is.

In addition, we’re making a change to ensure that there are some gear rewards available via the Kirin Tor Offensive and Sunreaver Onslaught, the two new factions with which players can earn reputation in 5.2 without raiding. The patch was shaping up to be a real challenge for players who don’t like raiding (including LFR), as our original design meant that no new Valor rewards would be available to them without needing to run Throne of Thunder. You can expect to see the Valor rewards on the Kirin Tor Offensive and Sunreaver Onslaught quartermasters updated on the 5.2 public test realms in the near future. These rewards are ilevel 496 and will only accommodate a few slots, as they aren’t intended to be very attractive to raiders (including those running LFR), but should give non-raiders something to shoot for in 5.2.

If you’ve already made plans and sank your Valor, don’t fret! As of this announcement, and even if you have 0 Valor currently, you still have enough time to cap out at 3000 Valor before patch 5.2 goes live. (It’s math!)

We’d love to hear your feedback about this change, and how you’re planning to earn, save, and spend Valor before the patch releases
This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 5.2 Update - You Can Keep Your Valor! started by chaud View original post
Comments 89 Comments
  1. expectwar's Avatar
    Anyone know about how long until 5.2 comes out? I'm thinking of playing again just was wondering about when its coming. Thanks!
  1. chrth's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by expectwar View Post
    Anyone know about how long until 5.2 comes out? I'm thinking of playing again just was wondering about when its coming. Thanks!
    One Blue said End of February (2/26), but comments recently made makes it sound more likely to be 3/5.
  1. Automaticc's Avatar
    Yep. Quote from the post found here us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/8608452/Preparing_to_Kill_a_King-2_11_2013
    says the following:
    Of course we don’t tend to give out patch release dates ahead of time, because things can slip, but right now we’re targeting the last week of February.
  1. Krastyn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chrth View Post
    One Blue said End of February (2/26), but comments recently made makes it sound more likely to be 3/5.
    Pretty much 3/5 at the absolute earliest. Consider the following two Blue comments:

    From the post about Valor today:
    "If you’ve already made plans and sank your Valor, don’t fret! As of this announcement, and even if you have 0 Valor currently, you still have enough time to cap out at 3000 Valor before patch 5.2 goes live. (It’s math!)"

    Based on that math, you need at least 3 weeks, so 3/5 at the earliest. One could argue that you actually need 4 weeks since at the time it was announced, you could already be at 0, and capped for the week (though they may not have considered that.

    Tweet from Bashiok today:
    "5.2 date still not confirmed, but when you see the End of Season PvP blog it's a slightly more solid two week warning."

    No End of Season PvP blog yet, meaning 2/26 is pretty much out.
  1. Kethryveris's Avatar
    Damn it.... I was counting on the valor becoming justice to get boa items with... >< justice is actually really difficult to get this expac... they give out so little and don't give you a way to convert valor to justice like they did in cata. I am valor cap'd with nothing to spend it on and nothing left to upgrade... and now they are saying hey we aren't going to downgrade it... sorry... that sucks
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    I am glad to hear that Blizzard has changed their mind about resetting VP. I can now upgrade some stuff before the Voidbinders are gone and stock up for 5.2. Also: alt love.
  1. turboblake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kethryveris View Post
    Damn it.... I was counting on the valor becoming justice to get boa items with... >< justice is actually really difficult to get this expac... they give out so little and don't give you a way to convert valor to justice like they did in cata. I am valor cap'd with nothing to spend it on and nothing left to upgrade... and now they are saying hey we aren't going to downgrade it... sorry... that sucks
    Its ok, you are in the extreme minority. Also, in 5.2 once you're valor capped, you start earning tons of Justice instead.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kethryveris View Post
    Damn it.... I was counting on the valor becoming justice to get boa items with... >< justice is actually really difficult to get this expac... they give out so little and don't give you a way to convert valor to justice like they did in cata. I am valor cap'd with nothing to spend it on and nothing left to upgrade... and now they are saying hey we aren't going to downgrade it... sorry... that sucks
    I can see that.. but man, if you are an experience player who is capping vp every week.. heirlooms are such an overkill. Just get the weapon and things die so fast and leveling is extremely fast also. I have had 10 capped toons for a long time.. so haven´t leveled a new character in awhile. I was amazed at just how fast and easy it is now.
  1. Nikanorius's Avatar
    Useless change, I think

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