Patch 5.3 PTR - Build 16911

Originally Posted by Ealyssa

They simply should take PVP power gems out directly. I understand that they had to nerf them especially with the resilience change in 5.3 (where PVE gear with lots of slots gemmed pvp could be better than a PVP gear with lot less slots) but now nearly all dps class will switch back to their main stat with resilience instead of pvp power/resilience.

What the heck are you talking about? PvE gear will never be as good as PvP gear. Those gem slots you're referring to count against the item budget, so it balances out with the stats on PvP gear. It's just PvP gear saves you a bit more gold on gemming. Plus, only people who can't be ass'ed to research PvP Power's value will gem their main stat. 160 PvP Power is still way more valuable than 160 of a main stat.

Originally Posted by Grimord

They BUFFED Sub Rogues? What the actual fuck? o_O

Only in PvE. It's nerfed against players, now ignoring 20% less of their total armour apparently.

Whoa, subtlety rogue PvE buff. I might just dedicate my time to level my rogue from 56 to 90 now.

Originally Posted by Rhodair

160 PvP Power is still way more valuable than 160 of a main stat.

With the recent nerf to PvP power, is that still true?

Originally Posted by Osmeric

With the recent nerf to PvP power, is that still true?

160 int for instance was already 10% stronger for destro locks than 320 pvppower in pvp.
Now with the pvppower nerf and the gem pvpstat nerf, 80 int will tripple the damage gain over 80 pvppower.

I love the gem change tough only resilience should have been affected with the recent pvppower nerf

Originally Posted by Vongimi

Honestly, while I don't really have to much hope for these changes working out, I am glad that are making huge wide sweeping changes to PvP, that means they are trying to fix it. Right now its so screwed up its simply unplayable.

Pvp always has and always will be unplayable for you pve players.

Is this a release candidate build? Seems like 5.3 will go live either next Tuesday or the week after.

Originally Posted by brothernads

Is this a release candidate build? Seems like 5.3 will go live either next Tuesday or the week after.

Haven't seen anything about this being a release candidate, I wouldn't be looking for 5.3 to go live next week (7th/8th), though the week after that is possible (14th/15th) but I get the feeling it may end up being the 21st/22nd. *shrug* Guess it depends on whether Blizzard have any more changes they want to throw in there before 5.3 goes live.

Welp back to stacking main stat for gems. So long pvp power.

Originally Posted by Osmeric

With the recent nerf to PvP power, is that still true?

No it is not. He obviously don't know what he is talking about...

320 PVP power was allready in competition with 160 main stat for some class/spec. Now the choice will be obvious for the majority. It will just help to do a little PVe in PVP gear actually not that bad. But they still should just remove PVP power gem at all.