MMO-Champion - Timeless Isle Vendors, Pet Cap Increase, Class Tuning, Blue Tweets, Burden of Shaohao
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Patch 5.4 - Timeless Isle Vendors Update
The vendors on Timeless Isle have had several additions and changes since the last time we looked at what they sold.

Previously we looked at how your could upgrade item level 496 gear to item level 535 with a Burden of Eternity. Along with killing rare spawns, looting chests, or doing a quest, you can now purchase them for 50,000 x Timeless Coin from Mistweaver Ai.

Mistweaver Ai also now sells the item level 476 weapons that were added in the most recent build for 20,000 (Two Hand) or 10,000 (One Hand) x Timeless Coin.

Level Type Spec Slot Name
476ShieldTankOff Hand Daylight Protectorate
476ShieldSpell DPSOff Hand Shield of the Eternal Noon
476BowPhysical DPSRanged Featherdraw Longbow
476One-handed MaceMeleeOne Hand Pandaren Peace Offering
476PolearmMeleeTwo Hand Yak-Herder's Longstaff
476StaffPhysical DPSTwo Hand Contemplation of Shaohao
476StaffSpell DPSTwo Hand Cloudscorcher Greatstaff
476Fist WeaponPhysical DPSOne Hand Hozen Can Opener
476DaggerPhysical DPSOne Hand Scavenged Pandaren Dagger
476DaggerSpell DPSOne Hand Ordon Sacrificial Dagger

You can also purchase the item level 535 trinkets for 50,000 x Timeless Coin.

Level Type Spec Slot Name
535TrinketTankTrinket Resolve of Niuzao
535TrinketMeleeTrinket Alacrity of Xuen
535TrinketPhysical DPSTrinket Discipline of Xuen
535TrinketSpell DPSTrinket Yu'lon's Bite
535TrinketHealerTrinket Contemplation of Chi-Ji

You can also pick up a trinket for alts or a quick teleport to the isle for 7,500 x Timeless Coin.

Level Type Spec Slot Name
496TrinketDPSTrinket Time-Lost Artifact

If you enjoy PvP and want to work towards rewards like the Ashhide Mushan Beast, you can purchase the Censer of Eternal Agony for 2,500 x Timeless Coin.

Level Type Slot Name
1Other Censer of Eternal Agony

Finally, for those of you who really enjoy farming, there is a Heavenly Golden Cloud Serpent that you can purchase for 100,000 x Timeless Coin!

Level Type Slot Name
90Mount Reins of the Heavenly Golden Cloud Serpent



Patch 5.4 - Pet Cap Increase
For those of you that enjoy collecting pets, Patch 5.4 will allows you to catch a few more by increasing the cap on number of pets to 1,000.



Patch 5.4 - Upcoming Class Tuning
It appears we are getting close to the part of the PTR cycle when major changes are done and it is time for balancing the numbers!



Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvE
Shado-Pan Onslaught raid debuff in the ptr. I thought valor upgrades were supposed to be the 'make bosses easier' buff/debuff?
That's the design for current tier. If anyone is still struggling in ToT, it feels like 5.4 is the time to let them finish it. (Source)

WoW is all about personal exp. Class satisfaction and smooth gameplay is the recipe, and not the content.
Yet that is clearly not what a lot of players want. They want their spec to be desirable for a viable comp. (Source)
Well the game is NOTHING in comparison to vanilla and TBC. PvP is unbalanced and "heroic" raids are too easy.
Um I think the heroic raiders would tell you these fights are the hardest they've ever done. (Source)
Some say that people just got better. Back then there were only few good players. Could be.
No doubt in my mind that players got much better. Just consider the tools we have now: e.g. Icy Veins, Ask Mr. Robot, even DBM. (Source)

As far as PvP goes that's a bigger topic but we've been most successful in seasons with a few, balanced comps. (Source)
I'm sorry, how long has ToT heroic taken to clear? A few weeks? So compare that to the Sunwell and BT? Which took MONTHS...
I'm pretty sure the number of attempts (the relevant metric) per heroic boss has never been higher. (Source)

How was the feedback on 10vs25man droprate of TF? Personally I'd prefer 15% 10man 25%25man or so. We didn't see too many in 10
10s want more of course, but we're fine with it being a small 25 perk. (This was not the overall reason for TF though.) (Source)
its a HUGE perk in 25s when in 10s u get a tf drop finally and its a tank shield but ur tanks are druid and monk -.-
We kind of think 25s need more perks though to overcome the inherent logistical benefits of 10s and effects of entropy. (Source)
I'm in a Taiwan server, an RL of 10s, still stuck at Leishen because 25s is too easy and ppl just dont want to run 10s.
We heard a lot from players in Asia that 25 was too hard compared to 10s. Why do you think your experience is different? (Source)
(Note for non-Asians that Asian 25s have buffed bosses, drop better gear and are on a different lockout than 10s.) (Source)

TF items suck, I've yet to speak to anyone within my community ( top 20 US 25 man raiders ) that likes it.
Very high end raiders often don't want any randomness to loot because that infringes on skill being the deciding factor in a race. (Source)

no one wants to spend weeks and weeks and weeks trying to get a single piece of loot. Wrath/cata model, GO BACK TO IT!
The opposite potentially worse problem is that you're sitting on 11 characters with full loot wondering what to do next. (Source)

trying to understand ur design philosophy with instances. Which do you design to be harder? Challenge modes or heroic raids.
They're just different. Not sure which is harder. Heroic raids you can outgear to some extent. (Source)

What were your impressions of MoP's appeal/success in Taiwan when you visited? Any big differences from US/EU?
No huge diffs. They're very into the story. Lots of Qs about Klaxxi in SoO. Probably more raid-focused players there than here. (Source)

As convenient as LFR is s, I worry that seeing content robs people of motivation to raid Normal-modes. Is that a concern?
Not sure how many players run normal just to see the content. Normal has always been fairly hard. (Source)
A bigger concern is that LFR robs people of the motivation to have friends, and we think friends are really important. (Source)

Ghostcrawler on Heirloom Weapons
Sadly Ghostcrawler had no comment on the level 90 to 100 range on the new Heirloom weapons from Garrosh. Keep in mind that the item levels on the items may not be final.



The Burdens of Shaohao
If you can't get enough of Lorewalker Cho's storytelling, this should be a fun week for you. Blizzard is releasing a six part series that looks at Emperor Shaohao as he progresses toward discovering the truth about his future.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Timeless Isle Vendors, Pet Cap Increase, Class Tuning, Blue Tweets, Burden of Shaohao started by chaud View original post
Comments 60 Comments
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Salted Beef View Post
    Weapons well beyond 476 are readily available for gold, while 483 Sha-Touched drop at an increased rate in LFR. What purpose do these vendor items serve?
    It's all about options, i remember a thread from GC about this same thing for crafted items in Dragon Soul. How they were kinda useless to make for guildy's. He said something like "They want to give multiple options to get loot, not everyone plays the same way."
    What may seem useless to you or me might seem nice for someone else.
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Enan1981 View Post
    The blacksmith weapons which can be upgraded to a max of 502 :3
    I wouldn't call those "readily available".
  1. briktal's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by pwnjitsu View Post
    GC being sheepish about those BoA's from Garrosh might as well be a big YES!. If it were a unintended for a bug he would have outright said so.
    Also, Lore retweeted an article about them.
  1. wowtoast's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    I wouldn't call those "readily available".
    Exactly, never any on the AH. There's also no bows or daggers. My hunter and rogue alts have been stuck with blues for the past few months so I'll be looking forward to these.
  1. Archimand's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Delaios View Post
    The purpose of those items is for alts that you don't want to spend too much gold on and that you don't want to do LFR on. I can count the amount of times I've done any LFR on any alt on one hand. I'd also never shell out over 20k for a crafted Blacksmith weapon for an alt. They are a tad too expensive though, considering you can get 496s and even 535 items from chests that only take 500 coins. You can open 20 to 40 chests for the amount the weapons sell for, and that's without taking any coins you get from the chests into account.
    you forget that heroic scenario wont have ilvl required in 5.4 so u can get 516 if you lucky couple of minutes after dinging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allaria View Post
    Anyone know how long on average it could take to farm 100,000 coins? xD
    month with casual farming
    week with medium farming
    1-couple of days with hardcore farming

    the farming itself isnt hard it just depend on what event you lucky to have when you farm
    the elite boss pirate ship with 130m hp give around 2k coins
    other events give around 500-1500
    while normal elite mobs give around 50
  1. Kazlofski's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by briktal View Post
    Also, Lore retweeted an article about them.
    Source of article?
  1. Stormcall's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Salted Beef View Post
    Weapons well beyond 476 are readily available for gold, while 483 Sha-Touched drop at an increased rate in LFR. What purpose do these vendor items serve?
    SOMETIMES available(not "readily", I only see them listed at all on a sporadic basis) for 15-20k gold. I don't have that much on all my toons combined(not even close, in fact), and I fucking DESPISE raiding with a passion, so I won't touch LFR with a 20 foot pole. Soooo...I certainly don't mind having a way to get a better weapon.
  1. Enan1981's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by wowtoast View Post
    Exactly, never any on the AH. There's also no bows or daggers. My hunter and rogue alts have been stuck with blues for the past few months so I'll be looking forward to these.
    Ive put some on the AH but the people on my server are cheap So I just make it for my alts :3
  1. NefariousNinja's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Allaria View Post
    Anyone know how long on average it could take to farm 100,000 coins? xD
    Based on the coin rate on the PTR, I'd say a one to two weeks of moderate coin grinding (if that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wowtoast View Post
    Exactly, never any on the AH. There's also no bows or daggers. My hunter and rogue alts have been stuck with blues for the past few months so I'll be looking forward to these.
    My priest is cursed with a low item level offhand
  1. Shadowfury's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Suwide View Post
    Yeah right, "heroic" raids are too easy. Hilarious, especially considering this tier has two of the hardest encounters to date. Saying that, especially in this tier, just shows what a troll you are. Nobody who has 13/13 HC in ToT will say it was "too easy", only the kiddies not able to join a raid other then LFR.

    Seriously, Bosses in Vanilla and BC were hard because we didn't have all the addons and gear played a way bigger role(not saying it was worse or better). Today the mechanics IMO are way more complicated and there are tons and not only 2 or 3 per encounter. Thinking about Dark Animus and LeiShen HC alone those fights are awesome and hard as hell, so much stuff to watch out for, so much responsibility for each raider and not only a hand full.
    Sorry, but there is nothing awesome about the Dark Animus encounter
  1. revanrk's Avatar
    why do they do that... make trinkets that are for example for strength classes and put the proc as haste that only some of the classes find useful, a trinket available out of raids should really either be main stat or attack power proc or even your highest secondary stat rather than making them partially useless to most raiders but amazing for some. Oh well at least i can get the coins for the serpent i guess thats a positive since i don't want that trinket.
  1. Ronnosh's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    You are crazy. The only reason it would have been harder back then, is because of bugs, lesser skilled players, and less guides on the internet. Addons may play some role as well.
    And some raid encounters in Vanilla and TBC were unforgivingly overtuned a for considerable amount of time to begin with, C'thun and Mu'ru being the most prominent examples. There's "challenging" and then there's "deliberately impossible."
  1. Joán's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfury View Post
    Sorry, but there is nothing awesome about the Dark Animus encounter
    That's just like, your opinion, man...
  1. freakyduck's Avatar
    I love the cost of these things....20,000, 10,000....seriously makes it seem so stupid...wouldn't be just as easy to make it 20 or 10? Nah, let's just have high numbers to make it look cool....how dumb.
  1. Narelle's Avatar
    Wow a new mount we have never seen before! The innovation just keeps getting better!
  1. IIamaKing's Avatar
    I love the cost of these things....20,000, 10,000....seriously makes it seem so stupid...wouldn't be just as easy to make it 20 or 10? Nah, let's just have high numbers to make it look cool....how dumb.
    Guessing you do not understand the concept of "keeping them playing".

    Thing costs 10 coins you earn it in 20 min, then moan about nothing to do.

    Thing costs 10000 coins you continue to grind for it thus keeping you logging in and entertained(in a fashion).

    It also make the item its self more rewarding.
  1. Syridian's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by freakyduck View Post
    I love the cost of these things....20,000, 10,000....seriously makes it seem so stupid...wouldn't be just as easy to make it 20 or 10? Nah, let's just have high numbers to make it look cool....how dumb.
    See: Skyshards. That's the other end of the spectrum. You either gradually but definitely make progress, or sporadically make progress based on tiny % chances. I know I prefer the 100,000 coins option.
  1. freakyduck's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Guessing you do not understand the concept of "keeping them playing".

    Thing costs 10 coins you earn it in 20 min, then moan about nothing to do.

    Thing costs 10000 coins you continue to grind for it thus keeping you logging in and entertained(in a fashion).

    It also make the item its self more rewarding.
    Or just make them a little more difficult to obtain, relative to the time it takes to accumulate 10,000.

    Though, in todays world of "i'm entitled to get something out of everything" i guess they have to put coins on every source available to getting them.
  1. Shadowfury's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Joán View Post
    That's just like, your opinion, man...
    Idd it is, but seriously, why do you think that encounter was any good? I personally don't think it brought anything new and exciting other than confusing and clumsy mechanic and in my opinion it was the worst encounter in ToT. Especially in 25man where 1 person could screw you over and over again no matter how good others do, I call that a bad design.
  1. Jofe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Abbzow View Post
    Please could you show me 13/13 HC bosses down?..No?.....Thought so.
    You made me remember when a topic saying that Heroic raids were too easy appeared on the official forums. I would check the armory of the people that kept saying that they were a joke and most of the times they wouldn't even have reg cleared, let alone a single Heroic boss.

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