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Patch 5.4 - Tier 16 Hunter Armor Set
Keep in mind that this is just a preview and the final set may be different!





Flex Difficulty Feedback
Flex difficulty needs more testing and feedback, so be sure to give it a try if you have time this weekend!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Many thanks for the excellent feedback thus far.

On Malkorok in particular, a bit more breathing room between the final Implosions and Breath wouldn't hurt (on Normal as well), and Blood Rage is actually doing more damage than it should be for our current Flexible tuning (a bug).

As for Flexible mode in general, we'll be reducing the overall difficulty relative to Normal across the board for our next PTR test. It's also quite possible (likely, even) that specific mechanics are overtuned on Normal as well, which will of course translate to excessive difficulty on Flexible as well -- we don't consider our Normal mode tuning final yet by any means.

I'd like to briefly clarify Flexible mode's target audience and what that means regarding how we tune the content: Flexible mode is primarily for roughly the audience served by 10-player Normal raiding in Wrath of the Lich King (10 Normal used to be a tier lower than 25 Normal). Not every guild that raids is a raiding guild, if that makes sense. I'd say that Flexible mode is for social groups that raid; Normal mode is for raiding guilds (and Heroic is for hardcore raiding guilds). That distinction consists of factors such as whether or not the group will ever recruit based on class needs, or remove someone based on performance (or even openly criticize them).

But a friends-and-family group is far from a ragtag pickup group. We're assuming that you have a leader running the show, are communicating, and are willing and able to coordinate a strategy and execute individual mechanics. Also, unlike Looking For Raid, which has a relatively flat difficulty level and which is designed to be successfully completed by all appropriately-geared players, Flexible mode entails progression. You'll learn and farm earlier fights to work your way up towards the more demanding ones deeper in the zone. A boss like Malkorok is Boss 9 of 14, and is generally designed as such. I'd compare him to bosses like Rotface or Festergut in Icecrown Citadel. Those certainly saw plenty of PUG action later in the 3.3 patch cycle, when the zone-wide Icecrown buff had ramped up a bit and the strategies were widely-known.

Now, will players form PUGs for Flexible Siege of Orgrimmar? Absolutely -- and we're excited at the prospect. But that's an organic process that will evolve over time, if we get the tuning right. I don't recall very many Trade chat PUGs waltzing into Icecrown Citadel in January 2010 and killing Festergut.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Legendary Cloak
In vanilla and every expansion before MoP we had legendary weapons to anticipate. Why isnt there any in MoP?
Weren't happy with the entitlement feel of DWrath and Fangs. If we do leg weapons again, we'd likely make them much rarer. (Source)
Either forget legendaries, or accept that people want OP items, and OP for some means unbalance so make it easy..
Legendary weapons are kind of OP by their nature. That's fine. Last few we just made it so every potential user could get. (Source)

I am thoroughly disappointed with the legendary being a cloak. All of this work throughout the xpac and we don't use it again.
What do you mean by "don't use it again?" (Source)
it disapp. me that now there's a leg. for everyone and it's a cloak thats shaped like a towel and clips models. Why no weapon?
We feel like we've done that a lot before. We want to keep things fresh. When rewards are too predictable they get boring. (Source)
Precedent is the problem. Ppl expected awesome weapons. Disappointed by dish towels (however awesome they may be)
Imagine the problems with this sentence: "I can easily predict what WoW will do next based on precedence." (Source)

Also is the proc. from the Tanking Cloaks working while in a DPS spec ?
No, you'll have to be a legit tank to benefit from the tank proc. (Source)

Why gate the new world boss using the legendary cape? Seems arbitrary and bad for alts.
I still struggle to understand wanting lots of alts but not having to play them as much as a main. Isn't that the point of an alt? (Source)

Reforging
And yet you think about changing reforging or even removing it.
My experience is that most players just use an add on or website to tell them how to reforge. (Source)
It probably works the best for healers, since sufficient regen is a feel thing, not something you can dictate. (Source)

I do like reforging to make poor items (haste trink for fury war) easier to swallow. I don’t like it for hit/exp though.
Yeah, the cascades where getting one new item causes you to reforge all are the worst. (Source)
Do you think it's more of a hit/exp-as-a-capped-stat issue then?
Certainly part of it, but we also don't like all the work that has to go into a drop before it's ready to wear. (Source)
Aren't enchants and gems and valor upgrades (and maybe transmog) enough? (Source)

Characters / Items
how do you feel having Pandaren shared between both factions has worked out? Would you do the same if new races were added?
Not a fan of it overall. We just didn't want to deny anyone Pandaren. (Source)

Was creating a humam char yday, all faces look awful! Compared with mop/cata races... new models can't get here fast enough.
Yep. Pretty much. (Source)

Can you please explain to me why the tier sets for tier 16 look so bland and tasteless? & why season 14 rogue looks like plate
Response to tier art is so ridiculously subjective that I long ago gave up trying to understand player reaction to it. (Source)
The advice I gave before is provide feedback on the kind of designs you'd like to see for future tiers and not just shout BAD. (Source)

Is the current Challenge Mode gear still going to be attainable next exp, or will it go away for good??
Current plan is you can still try to obtain it since it scales your gear. Not 100% sure though. (Source)

Random question, Do you think you'll ever have (8) set bonuses again?
I think it's unlikely in PvE. I'm not a fan of players ignoring all pieces except tier sets. Makes loot less interesting. (Source)

What is your opinion on the fact that when everyone can get 'Epics' the term 'Epic' is cheapened.
I feel like some of that is just standard mudflation. Would earning your way from blues to epics feel the same after 9 years? (Source)

of course they can be, but blizz prefers to ignore the storage space issue. Be lucky to see a fix even next xpac.
We aren't ignoring it. We just don't believe near infinite storage is necessary. We don't like e.g. 100 slot bags. (Source)

PTR notes: RPPM proc rates for items that proc haste, wont benefit from haste to proc more?? huh?
The interaction of RPPM with haste made those mechanics more powerful than intended. (Source)
We had cases where RPPM trinkets were a 10%+ damage increase and situations where no non-RPPM trinket would ever compete. (Source)

Any chance of Void Storage ever having the deposit cost removed? That's why I never use it. Withdraw makes more sense.
Transmog was originally conceived as a way to wear older tier sets. It has grown into much more though. (Source)
Given that, we don't think the current UI necessarily supports the feature as well as it could. (Source)

Computers - Setup of the Month (by chaud)
Each month or every 2 months, depending on the hardware evolutions, the lovely chaud will work on a couple of hardware setups for those of you who are thinking of upgrading their computer!

This month
The current SSD prices are stable, with most SSDs under $1 per gigabyte when on sale.

The new Haswell CPUs from Intel are here and they run a little bit on the warmer side. Depending on how much you want to overclock, you may need to spend a bit more for a better CPU cooler like the NH-D14 or H90.

Unless you are doing a lot of video rendering or something that is similarly multithreaded, you do not need the 4770K and should spend that money elsewhere.

Make sure to keep your AMD and Nvidia drivers up to date.

Don't hesitate to post any feedback in the comments of that news post, and don't forget to visit the Computer Forum for any extra questions! If you are interested in Folding@home, take a look in our team's thread.


Peripherals/Monitors
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
MonitorAsus VS229H-P 21.5" LED IPS Monitor - $135ASUS VS248H-P 24-Inch Monitor - $170
KeyboardKensington Pro Fit Media Keyboard - $18Cyborg V.5 - $47
MouseLogitech G400 - $47Razer Deathadder - $50
SpeakersCreative A220 2.1 Speaker System - $26Logitech Z313 Speaker System - $36
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
MonitorASUS VE278Q 27-Inch - $260HP ZR2440W 24-inch - $370
KeyboardLogitech G510 - $90Razer BlackWidow (Backlit)- $60 ($121)
MouseLogitech G500 - $45Razer Naga (Buttons on the Side) - $70
SpeakersLogitech Z323 2.1 Speaker System - $59Logitech Speaker System Z523 - $70


Puppy and Dolphin
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
CaseNZXT Source 210 - $40NZXT Source 210 - $40
Power SupplyCorsair CX500 - $50XFX Core Edition PRO 550W - $50
CPUAMD FX-6300 - $125AMD FX-8320 - $145
HeatsinkCooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - $28Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $33
MotherboardASUS M5A97 R2.0 - $100ASUS M5A99FX PRO - $120
MemoryKingston HyperX Blu 4GB 1333 - $358GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $70
Graphics CardXFX 7770 - $97ASUS 7870 2 GB or ASUS GTX 660 Ti - $200 / $199
Hard DriveWestern Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $55Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - $85
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22
Total$552$765


Narwhal and Unicorn
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Narwhal and Unicorn. SSDs are always optional.
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
CaseCooler Master HAF 912 - $50Corsair Air 540 (Special Layout) - $140
Power SupplyCorsair 650TX V2 - $90Corsair 750HX - $110
CPUIntel i5-4670K - $219Intel i7-4770K - $330
HeatsinkThermaltake Frio - $57Noctua 6 NH-D14 - $77
MotherboardASUS Z87-A - $112ASUS Z87-PLUS - $165
Memory8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $7016GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $137
Graphics CardMSI 7950 OR MSI N760 TF - $240 / $260MSI 7970 OR Gigabyte GTX 770 - $350 / $400
Hard DriveWestern Digital 1TB Caviar Black - $85Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black - $85
SSDSAMSUNG 840 128GB (Review) - $98
OR
Plextor 128 GB M5 Pro (Review) - $120
Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB (Review) - $125
OR
SAMSUNG 840 Pro 128GB (Review) - $130
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22
Total$1043 - $1085$1492 - $1574


Weekly News Recap
Another busy week full of news, so here is your chance to catch up!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Tier 16 Hunter, Flex Difficulty Feedback, Blue Tweets, Setup of the Month, News Recap started by chaud View original post
Comments 92 Comments
  1. Heartless's Avatar
    Oh my goodness, it's Wheatley tier armor.
  1. Monsterpiez's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by stuartj1992 View Post
    Wtf did you hunt to make T1, T3, T4, T7, T8, and T9 may I ask?
    Well T1 says giants, T2 Dragons, T3/T7 are obviously Crypt fiends (thus reason of the name cryptstalker), T4 you hunt demons (should be named Felstalker), T5 if I had to guess warp stalkers, T6 the Gronn giants, T8 you didn't hunt scourge to get the gear, you're hunting scourge thus the bio mask to protect you from the plague, T9 are named after Horde/ Alliance Champions and hunters got the Windrunner sisters, T10 Crypt Lord, T11 are themed from the new zones/ enemies and hunters got Vash'jir, T12 Flamewakers, T13 Frostwyrms, T14 Yaungol, T15 Saurok T16 ???
  1. Laylriana's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterpiez View Post
    Well T1 says giants, T2 Dragons, T3/T7 are obviously Crypt fiends (thus reason of the name cryptstalker), T4 you hunt demons (should be named Felstalker), T5 if I had to guess warp stalkers, T6 the Gronn giants, T8 you didn't hunt scourge to get the gear, you're hunting scourge thus the bio mask to protect you from the plague, T9 are named after Horde/ Alliance Champions and hunters got the Windrunner sisters, T10 Crypt Lord, T11 are themed from the new zones/ enemies and hunters got Vash'jir, T12 Flamewakers, T13 Frostwyrms, T14 Yaungol, T15 Saurok T16 ???
    Since the Tier 16 looks like a diving suit I guess it's Gokk'lok.
  1. Repefe's Avatar
    I don't think it's that bad ... the golden blue version is passable. Last two tiers were about wearing what you kill, so a change of pace. Problem is it's just that; passable. The common description of everything that goes in WoW these days.

    Also Siege of Orgrimmar and the tier sets look so non horde .... what's up with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by carnifex2005 View Post
    I don't think Blizzard would like to do a direct ripoff of a Guild Wars 2 armor set.
    Thing is with models only on shoulders, head, belt and boots they can't make such armor set
  1. ronaldmc's Avatar
    Also Siege of Orgrimmar and the tier sets look so non horde .... what's up with that.
    That's so freaking true!
  1. Monsterpiez's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Repefe View Post
    I don't think it's that bad ... the golden blue version is passable. Last two tiers were about wearing what you kill, so a change of pace. Problem is it's just that; passable. The common description of everything that goes in WoW these days.

    Also Siege of Orgrimmar and the tier sets look so non horde .... what's up with that.



    Thing is with models only on shoulders, head, belt and boots they can't make such armor set
    exactly, so far the only tier piece that closely resembles the new raid is the shaman, if i'm thinking of the right one.
  1. egeszsegere's Avatar
    This hunter set is far from what i associate with the word "hunter".

    Its some sorta futuristic scubadiving set with lazerbeams from the head and shoulders... makes no sense at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleagant View Post
    Not a fan of that Hunter set.If I could get Blizzard to design a Hunter outfit I would give them this as a starting point.No LED lights or animal head helmets.
    YES!

    id hire you on the spot, or whoever designed it.

    90% of what blizard designs looks like shit
  1. Orosho's Avatar
    are all of the hunters going underwater now? :P
  1. stuartj1992's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Monsterpiez View Post
    Well T1 says giants, T2 Dragons, T3/T7 are obviously Crypt fiends (thus reason of the name cryptstalker), T4 you hunt demons (should be named Felstalker), T5 if I had to guess warp stalkers, T6 the Gronn giants, T8 you didn't hunt scourge to get the gear, you're hunting scourge thus the bio mask to protect you from the plague, T9 are named after Horde/ Alliance Champions and hunters got the Windrunner sisters, T10 Crypt Lord, T11 are themed from the new zones/ enemies and hunters got Vash'jir, T12 Flamewakers, T13 Frostwyrms, T14 Yaungol, T15 Saurok T16 ???
    Sigh. Please actually read and think things through before responding. "wtf did you hunt to make".

    T1 says giants. Looks nothing like giants, the only thing that even suggests giants is the name. What we actually get are huge arbitrarily shaped solid metal shoulders and a similar helm. It looks nothing like a 'hunter set', more warrior if anything.

    T2 does look like dragons. Which is why I didn't include it in the list.

    T3 is inspired by cryptfiends, clearly, but it's not as if it's made from them. It's more metal made to look a little like cryptfiends. So, no, still stands.

    T4 is again, inspired by demons, but only even then very roughly. It has the right colour scheme of the fel iron constructs in Outland and it has some fel green glow but that's it. It's not made from hunted demons, just has a vague demonic resemblance.

    T5 and T6 do look like they were pieced together by parts of the actual creatures, so I didn't include them - so no need to respond to those.

    T7 - again, same issue as T3.

    T8 - you said it yourself, didn't hunt scourge to make the gear.

    T9 - again, didn't hunt anything to make gear.

    T10, T11, T12, T13, T14 and T15 all resemble creatures enough for them to look like they've been made by the creatures that have been hunted, at least in part. Which is why I didn't include them.

    So, like I said, the tiers I mentioned still stand as examples of sets that were not "hunted" to make the gear from. The only reason I've been so pernickety about whether the armour was made from what was hunted is because the poster I replied to asked "wtf did we hunt to make this armor".
  1. Doolalley's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Hunter set looks like a Steampunk Titan Portal 2 Turret.
    looks like summit from the Guyver lol
  1. 1ns's Avatar
    Hunters get a descent looking set. ITs been long since!
  1. Shullski's Avatar
    Really confused as to why both the new AMD r9 290x and GTX 780 TI arent on the build of the month - same with the GTX 780...it got $100+ price cut

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