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Patch 5.4 - Paragons of the Klaxxi Preview
Paragons of the Klaxxi is the thirteenth boss in the Siege of Orgrimmar. The encounter takes place under Ragefire Chasm in Orgrimmar. As promised, Kil'ruk and the other Paragons stand by Garrosh after he has the Heart of Y'Shaarj





Patch 5.4 Developer Interviews
Convert to Raid recently had the opportunity to interview Ion Hazzikostas. You can find information from previous interviews on our Patch 5.4 Developer Interviews page.


  • Siege of Orgrimmar begins in Pandaria so that you don't just end up going back to Orgrimmar in Patch 5.4, but instead experience a story that leads you there.
  • Gamon is one of the more notable things in Orgrimmar, so he got an achievement: Gamon Will Save Us!
  • Valor gear originally was added to complement normal difficulty raiding and filling in for bad luck. The Valor gear continued to work like that for normal difficulty raiders, but for players that just do LFR, it replaced the gear that dropped in LFR. Most of the gear that was best in slot for players that only do LFR was just purchased off a vendor, which isn't very exciting.
  • The devs try to attract players to higher levels of difficulty by adding new things, rather than taking away old things. The new things that are being added aren't essential. People that don't manage to kill Garrosh on Flex, Normal, or Heroic and don't get their heirloom weapon will still be able to level just fine.
  • Every spec in the game can get Gold in Proving Grounds for the appropriate role. Not every spec will be able to get deep into Endless. When comparing performance in Endless mode, it may be best to compare yourself to other players of the same class and spec rather than everyone.
  • There are some players that won't do Brawler's Guild because they don't want to have other players watching them make mistakes.



Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Saylin Battle Banner Disabled in Raids
The Salyin Battle Banner can no longer be used inside of raid instances. The item can still be used in regular dungeons, Scenarios, and in non-instanced areas.

Wow, fast reply. Any reason for the change?
The change was made to address a raid exploit. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Patch 5.4 - Shine Engineering Auction House
Just checked in on this. The removal of the Engineering Auction House NPC's is, in fact, unintentional, and was merely an oversight that occurred along with some of the other changes to the Vale for 5.4.

We're in the process of getting them re-enabled in the faction shrines on the PTR, and they will continue to be available once Patch 5.4 is released. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Battlefield: Barrens Ending Soon
Quick note: Kor'kron supplies (lumber/stone/etc.) will turn gray when 5.4 hits (Sept. 10!) and be sellable. No need to destroy any extras (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
New Character Models
I'm honestly a little miffed that models are ~25%. Kind of blew my mind in a bad way.
It is not necessarily the case that it will take 3x as long as the elapsed time to finish. Work, yes. Time, perhaps not. (Source)
Even still, it's a complicated task that needs to be done well or not at all, patience from the players is key
TOTALLY. May have tweeted this already, but this would be an easy thing to screw up and spend years trying to earn forgiveness. (Source)

I know new character models take a very long time and need to be perfect, but you talked about them 5 years ago. 25% done? wtf
I don't know when we first talked about them. We didn't start them until relatively recently. (Source)
There is a lesson here about not talking about things too early. (Source)
I think the assumption many made is we have been working on them nonstop and only 25% of the way there. (Source)
I just assumed since we didn't get them in MoP, they would be a major feat. of the next XPac. I think most ppl did
I would not make any assumptions about future expansions since we haven't made any announcements about them at all. (Source)

really? I cant remember the last time I actually saw my character model. Gear hides much and I'm zoomed way out
Keep in mind all the other PCs and NPCs (that use player races) would look better as well. (Source)

Are new character models not priority 1 right now?? /boggled If they are not.
They are *a* priority. I don't think players would be understanding if they saw no new art in the game just to get new models. (Source)
I thought these were expected feature for the next expansion? Guessing I assumed wrong.
You should have no expectations for the next expansion IMO since we haven't talked about a next expansion at all. (Source)

Stretching out new character updates over the next few years on into the next expansion? Art Dept take a budget cut?
We didn't think our players would accept tons of reused SoO boss models or armor sets. (Source)
We're making good progress, but at some point players started expecting it imminently. We wanted to remind them it's a long job. (Source)
Or another way to think of it: this is a really easy thing to screw up and you all deserve better than that. (Source)

PTR
Do you pay attention to PTR numbers dps wise?How much input?Good players showing true performance,not sims.
Yes, we look at PTR nos. a lot. It is a stronger argument when a player can link logs than to argue for buffs based on sims. (Source)

Lore
Made an acc to ask you this, WAS Garrosh behind Stonetalon's bombing? Kosak's answer was really up to interpretation. GJ btw
My assumption is he was, but that's my interpretation and not a canon answer. (Source)

Please stop being skeptical and at least *pause* for a moment to consider how important story is to your player base.
It is important to us as well. But WoW is primarily a game intended to offer fun gameplay. The gameplay for us is always first. (Source)
We care about story w/in that constraint, but story changes that require a lot of work w/out bringing gameplay tough to justify. (Source)
That is the context I am trying to provide to the "re-quest Ashenvale once again" crowd. (Source)
We spent A LOT of effort redoing Ashenvale and other zones for Cataclysm. In retrospect not sure bang for the buck was there. (Source)
Please don't interpret that as story not mattering to us. (Source)

So what was the reason for giving the horde Darkshore, South Shore and allowing them to nuke Theramore?
Those were all motivated by tryingnto provide an interesting leveling / scenario experience. (Source)
Many of these concerns seem motivated by issues like fairness or justice. We're just trying to make playing WoW interesting. (Source)

Pet Battles: The Celestial Tournament
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Not far off the southeastern shores of the Jade Forest lies the Timeless Isle, a mysterious place riddled with spirit creatures, challenging encounters, and even a fiery demigod. Explorers who reach its shores enter uncharted territory filled with trials that will test their skills, tenacity, cleverness . . . and Pet Battle prowess.

A Timeless Tournament

Among its many enigmas, the Timeless Isle plays host to a Celestial Tournament where veteran tamers can exercise their skills in an all-new Pet Battles Scenario. Led by Emperor Shaohao and featuring notable figures from Pandaren lore, this legendary event demands the utmost from those who participate—and requires a skilled and varied roster of level-25 pets if you have any hope to survive.

Speaking to Master Li will get you into the Celestial Tournament, where you’ll take on powerful Pet Battle pros like Chen Stormstout, Shademaster Kiryn, and even the imitable Blingtron 4000—and in the end, your skills will be pushed to the limit as you face off against the mighty Celestial Champions.


To the Victor Go the Spoils

Upon completing the quests and your first run through the Celestial Tournament, you’ll be rewarded with enough Celestial Coins to purchase your very own Celestial battle pet. Each additional weekly attempt will continue to reward one Celestial Coin, which can be saved up and used to purchase the other three pets that will be available through a nearby vendor (progress will be tracked at the account level). Caring for these pets is a sacred honor, so each is account-bound and cannot be traded to other players.

To ensure only the best come out victorious, healing and reviving pets during the Scenario is strictly forbidden—so it’s important to come prepared. To win, participants will need to defeat three random tamer teams, along with all four offspring of the August Celestials. Losing a battle from time to time will be inevitable, but that’s not the end of the line. Though your defeated pets will remain down, you’ll be able to restart the fight and adjust who’s on your team before giving it another try. You’ll also be able to switch up your team between battles. Should you happen to leave the Scenario before it’s completed, you’ll be able to return later to restart the event.


Once Patch 5.4 is live and the Timeless Isle is revealed, new pets, new abilities, and exciting new challenges will be waiting . . . so keep practicing, pet battlers. You’re about to be put to the test!

Fan Art
Today we have some nice fan art that was done for the WoW Fan Art Tribute book.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Paragons of the Klaxxi, 5.4 Dev Interviews, Blue Posts, Celestial Tournament, Fan Art started by chaud View original post
Published on 2013-09-04 03:34 AM
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  1. Gilian's Avatar
    Are new character models not priority 1 right now?? /boggled If they are not.
    I hope that was a joke/troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesahaettr View Post
    I don't like the Brawler's Guild because of people watching my mistakes.

    I played it enough to get to the heirloom claw weapons so I've a little experience there. I've never had a bad experience there, people were occasionally supportive, occasionally helpful and never negative. But I still hate making mistakes in front of people, even if they're non-judgemental. I don't like being the centre of attention at the best of times.

    I might be one of the few who doesn't really care about new models, but I'm glad that in a recent interview (linked on MMO) they're referencing the old models and animation a lot, I'd be put off by massive changes to the feel of things.
    I don't get that at all. It's a videogame. It surprised me it was brought up at all. Maybe it sucks when you play with people you know and they are watching. I couldn't care less what some random person on the internet thinks of how I fail at Brawler's Guild though :P.
  1. Yunru's Avatar
    sigh...i was hoping i could buy extra pets from other players. This adds up a 1+3+3+3 weeks to get all.
  1. Gilian's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dhru View Post
    My guild is just disappeared because of FLEX... "Why raiding with you? If I could make this with others..." or the worst: "We will do this with less people now! so you can leave freely from the guild. you are useless..."
    While this reaction is ridiculous, I was just thinking about this.

    You make a pug and invite 25 people then you start the raid and when you see people failing or not performing well enough you simply kick them till there are 10 left so you end up with only the best players.
    Will be even worse in guilds. They will just drop the bad apples straight away. It's like going from a 25 man raidteam to a 10 man raidteam except much easier.
  1. PityTheLoveFool's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Wish people would just calm down about new models. They will come when they're ready. Don't rush it please.
    It's hard to just let something like that go when they have mentioned long ago that they'd be updating models. Updated models is way, way, way long overdue and for them to say they're a quarter of the way with them is kinda off-putting.
  1. Chonar's Avatar
    M.. my Salyin Battle Banner! NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo....!!! D:
    No more raidwipe recovery as a warrior. Sad day.
  1. l33t's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Udeze View Post
    There's not much of a queue anymore. I only have to wait behind 1 or 2 other people nowadays. Got to rank 8 from rank 2 in a single night.
    Lucky you. On my server there's almost always 8+ people in a que.
  1. Blur4stuff's Avatar
    i have a friend that wouldn't raid for years. it was hard for them to even do groups. they were ultra sensitive about messing up and looking foolish to other players.

    for some it really is a big problem
  1. mmoc65ba707d63's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by l33t View Post
    There are lots of players that won't do Brawler's guild because they hate the 30+ min que of plain sitting there and doing nothing. Like me.
    There are lots of players that won't do Brawler's guild because they don't want to respec/reforge/enchant as dps.
    Really looking for proving grounds, I love solo content.
  1. mmoc1f5866277d's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by nuclearkite View Post
    What are you talking about, 4 years? They've only said in the last several months they were actually working on the new models. Why do you even play if slight delays of non-essential free content sets you off and makes you want the game to suffer? If youre so unnecessary and expendable to your guild, maybe you should find a new guild that isnt filled with rude twats, and then MAKE yourself necessary by being a better player.
    Actually they said they were working on the new models before MoP and they even considered releasing the human and Orc Model on 5.1.
    If 25% done refers to having ready at 100% just 2-3 races of the total then it means they almost stopped working on them since the launch of MoP (assuming they told the truth before).
  1. taylor20k's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by noskillz View Post
    There are lots of players that won't do Brawler's guild because they don't want to respec/reforge/enchant as dps.
    Really looking for proving grounds, I love solo content.
    i've seen guides for most of the bosses to do them as tank or heals. it's possible. more so for tanks because they get rediculous amounts of vengeance against them.
  1. Amerissis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nelonsa View Post
    Wow, that's totally me :<
    Me too. Did it once, died quickly and stupidly, was so embarresed I never returned.
  1. TCceen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Krekko View Post
    I wholeheartedly agree.

    The people complaining that they NEED models right NOW will be the same ones complaining when they are not 100% perfect, done right, when things are off and they don't like them, and when we get reused models for current/upcoming content instead.

    These people are serial complainers. It's their job, and quite frankly it's getting really old really fast.
    You can't pass off something you don't care for to the general population of those who 'always complain and are never happy unless they are complaining' type crowd. Many of us play the game for reasons other than PVP/RAID and loot. RP, fun with friends, cosmetics and look and feel of the character are top billed features to many players like ME! I've been here since day 1, had my fair share of hard core raiding, I never complain (sans removing warlock cast while running after having it for 1 full year).

    Character models, transmogs, hairstyles and stylized personalization options are the #1 thing keeping me here and the only reason I play certain games like Skyrim, Fable and other RPGs. It's a one man's trash/treasure kind of feature that too many underestimate. The little i've seen of Everquest Next was a huge slap in the face of what we 'could' be and should be receiving from WoW already. It just makes me hope for our model update to be even better and worth the wait. I've been begging for Panda hairstyles on other races since 5.1 but I figure they will be included with a model update so it can be forgiven.

    For those stuck on the old models that may complain, we already know the tech is in the game to see things per player. You can drink potions and see everyone as a mage as well as phasing in the game. have a personal new/old model option and people can embrace it when they are ready.

    I know many players get sick of wow because of the 'rinse repeat' cycle of raiding/maximizing loot, with no longevity of content. Yes a new raid is nice, but when the next patch comes out your old dungeon is garbage and handed down to those like ME! who will pick it clean for transmog and fun items. models affect every aspect of the game and never leave. Other features like player housing would also survive the instance obsolescence come new patch, with features like storage, armor/trophy display, a place for your farming (like halfhill) even a place for a few of your pets/mounts to run around. Hell you could even spar with your pets/mounts! More content with longevity is always a good thing.
  1. artam's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by mmoposter View Post
    Actually they said they were working on the new models before MoP and they even considered releasing the human and Orc Model on 5.1.
    If 25% done refers to having ready at 100% just 2-3 races of the total then it means they almost stopped working on them since the launch of MoP (assuming they told the truth before).
    Actually they said that Dwarfs were almost done, not Humans or Orcs, they even said that maybe Dwarf could be on MoP from day 1 if they could manage to finish it.

    If we can be sure that the Dwarf model is complete, then Im guessing that they will put 2 (A) races and 2 (H) races in a first release, maybe Dwarfs/Humans (A) and Orcs/Trolls (H)(Orcs and Trolls seem to have a lot of NPC testing these days, Garrosh, etc.).
  1. Granyala's Avatar
    There are some players that won't do Brawler's Guild because they don't want to have other players watching them make mistakes.
    I know that failing is part of the process when dealing with difficult stuff, but having others watch me while doing it just takes all the fun out of it.
    That and the queue system...
  1. Baluki's Avatar
    Hurry up with the new models so I can bitch about them!
  1. ItachiZaku's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    Me too. Did it once, died quickly and stupidly, was so embarresed I never returned.
    I got a constant stream of comments from 4-5 people, not a single comment was positive. I only did one fight and it was some rank 6 boss from a boss drop quest item.

    They never said new models were being working on with a set release date, merely working on it, so people shouldn't expect them any time soon. Maybe the expansion after next.
  1. Pacster's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiZaku View Post
    I got a constant stream of comments from 4-5 people, not a single comment was positive. I only did one fight and it was some rank 6 boss from a boss drop quest item.
    Guess that's how it is on a full server with people waiting as no. 20 in line. In my dead server pool people are happy if they find 5 others there to form a group and get at least some buffs....insulting others would be stupid in such a situation. ;-)

    I never worried about who was watching. I play the game for me and not for them....my challenge, not theirs.
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    the gigantic dungeon journal for paragons hits each players for 1kk megadamage -_-
  1. mmoc65ba707d63's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by kamuimac View Post
    the gigantic dungeon journal for paragons hits each players for 1kk megadamage -_-
    I'm writing the boss guides for my guild right now, translating every single skill. This is going to be a real pain >.>
  1. Shaede's Avatar
    the current models are horribly outdated..they look like shit in the new zones..sure you may not notice it on an old pc, but I do..and I hope they come out with new models ASAP. Some people say its important, some say it isn't...it definitely helps keep immersion for me, at least.
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