BlizzCon Live Raid: Method vs. Midwinter, Oct 29 Hotfixes, Blue Tweets, SC2 WoW RTS

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BlizzCon Live Raid: Method vs. Midwinter
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
At BlizzCons past, the World of Warcraft Live Raid has proven to be a spectacle of pure entertainment and roar-inducing gameplay mastery. BlizzCon 2013’s live raid challenge is sure to be no exception with #1-worldwide ranked 25-player Horde guild Method (EU-Twisting Nether) squaring off against #1-worldwide ranked 25-player Alliance guild Midwinter (US-Sargeras). These two teams of exceptionally skilled raiders will be racing through 25-player Heroic Siege of Orgrimmar to tackle five encounters that will make for an especially exciting spectator experience. The winning guild will be the first to best all five, including Sha of Pride, the Kor’kron Dark Shaman, Malkorok, Siegecrafter Blackfuse, and the infamous Garrosh Hellscream himself.

Midwinter and Method raced each other for the first time in September during Athene’s “The Siege” live marathon event, and while Method came out of the Throne of Thunder victorious, the deciding factor may have come early on with Midwinter’s slightly messy handling of Jin’rokh at the start of the race. As Method was later overcome by the unforgiving machinations of Dark Animus, and Midwinter positioned themselves to take the lead—that is, until Dark Animus dealt equal punishment to the U.S.-based guild. When all was said and done, Ra-den fell just two minutes too late for Midwinter to claim the bragging rights that day. (Watch the full Throne of Thunder race VoD.)

Method also claims the world-first Heroic 25-player Garrosh kill, finishing him off a mere nine days before Midwinter completed their siege on Orgrimmar. But if history is any indication for these two guilds, a single mistake in any of the five intense encounters we’ve selected could spell defeat for either team.

If you’re attending BlizzCon 2013 in person, join us Saturday morning at 10 a.m. PST in Hall D to witness the epic battle—otherwise, you can tune in to watch the race live from the comfort of your home with the Virtual Ticket. World of Warcraft lead encounter designer Ion “Watcher” Hazzikostas will be joined on stage by community manager Josh “Lore” Allen to provide commentary on the Live Raid. In addition, we’ll have Method members Rogerbrown, Sco, and Justwait, and Midwinter members Slootbag, Dpsonroids, and Pravity leading their teams directly from the stage.

You just don’t want to miss this. Simple as that!

Patch 5.4 Hotfixes: October 29
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Classes
  • Druid (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
    • Class Armor
      • Resolved an issue where casting Healing Touch while Nature's Swiftness is active did not consume the Restoration Tier-16 4-piece bonus.
  • Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
    • General
      • Blackout Kick's damage-over-time component for the Windwalker specialization should no longer be incorrectly affected by Resilience a second time.
      • Expel Harm's damage should now properly benefit from PvP Power and interact correctly with Resilience.
    • Mistweaver
      • The glyphed version of Surging Mist should no longer incorrectly cost slightly less mana than the unglyphed version.
    • Windwalker
      • Touch of Karma should now correctly redirect the same amount of damage that the Monk receives in PvP. Previously, the ability was incorrectly being modified by both the target and Monk's own Resilience.

Quests
  • Resolved an issue where harvesting Juicycrunch Carrots and Scallions did not start Work Order: II quests.

Creatures
  • Tormented Spirits in Kun-Lai Summit now respawn less quickly.

Raids, Dungeons, and Scenarios
  • Siege of Orgrimmar
    • The Fallen Protectors
      • Resolved an issue that prevented players that have died during the encounter from receiving credit for the Go Long achievement.
    • Norushen
      • Amalgam of Corruption, Manifestation of Corruption, and Essence of Corruption's health has been reduced by 15% on Raid Finder difficulty.
    • Iron Juggernaut
      • Iron Juggernaut's health has been reduced by 5% on Raid Finder difficulty.
    • Kor'kron Dark Shaman
      • Earthbreaker Haromm and Wavebinder Kardris' health has been reduced by 5% on Raid Finder difficulty.
      • Mokvar the Treasurer's Bribe ability should now be properly removed when the target has less than 50% health.
    • Malkorok
      • Malkorok's health has been reduced by 10% on Raid Finder difficulty.
    • Spoils of Pandaria
      • Kor'kron Wild Gun should no longer incorrectly drop Normal difficulty loot for Raid Finder and Flexible difficulties.
      • Resolved an issue that prevented players that have died during the encounter from receiving credit for the Criss Cross achievement.
    • Thok the Bloodthirsty
      • Thok the Bloodthirsty's health has been reduced by 15% on Raid Finder difficulty.
      • Kor'kron Jailer should no longer incorrectly drop Normal difficulty loot for Raid Finder and Flexible difficulties.
    • Garrosh Hellscream
      • Garrosh Hellscream, Kor'kron Warbringers, and Farseer Wolf Riders' health has been reduced by 5% on Raid Finder difficulty.
      • Embodied Despair's health in the Realm of Y'Shaarj has been reduced on Raid Finder difficulty.
      • Resolved an issue where players were able to obtain the "Strike!" achievement on Raid Finder difficulty.
  • Sunwell Plateau
    • Resolved an issue for players soloing the encounter that could cause Sathrovarr the Corruptor to not award any loot.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Siegecrafter Blackfuse Adds Health
We had made several rounds of tuning changes to the various Siege of Orgrimmar encounters late in the 5.4 PTR process, and some health adjustments that were reverted before 5.4 was released ended up resurfacing in patch 5.4.1. Apologies for the inconvenience -- this should be corrected within the next day. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Are you planning to keep the current spec and talent system in the expansion? Cause I, for one, love it!
While I can't talk about future expansions, overall we are happy with the current spec and talent design. (Source)
you did especially good job with the mage 90 talents
Like many of our systems, there is certainly room for improvement on specific talents. The system overall is a keeper though. (Source)

The new talents are way too stripped compared to old one, it used to be fun while leveling. now it's (15 more )
We think the new talents are better overall, but they do make leveling slightly less rewarding. (Source)
The question is whether talents are supposed to add max level customization or leveling rewards. We went with the former. (Source)

while the 3 or 4 people here like the new talent design the 5 million who quit didnt, as well as millions in game
If something that seems so obvious to you is not obvious to others, at least consider that it, in fact, might not be true. (Source)

Flex Raiding
Do you think difficulty is more appropriate or is it the flexibility. Does NM still have a place in future?
Overall I think the flexibility, because there already was an easier raid version. Flex lets them run with (just) their friends. (Source)

Would you encourage players to socialize-PuG instead of LFD? Eg. offering rewards (more VP, money, drops). #warcraft
We're doing that a bit already with Flex. The message we want to send is LFR is fine and good, but maybe try this other thing.... (Source)

WAH - WoW RTS: Alliance and Horde SC2 Map
StevenLuo released the first version of his SC2 Map that uses WoW art assets to make a Warcraft style RTS game.

This article was originally published in forum thread: BlizzCon Live Raid: Method vs. Midwinter, Oct 29 Hotfixes, Blue Tweets, SC2 WoW RTS started by chaud View original post
Published on 2013-10-30 09:12 AM
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  1. mmocc23356acb4's Avatar
    WAH- Terrible name. awesome idea!
  1. Farora's Avatar
    Do people really care about live raids? Hardcore guilds 'excel' at months of preparing and putting in time, not at pressing 1-2-3-4 better than others. So is it all that interesting to watch?
  1. Goondicker's Avatar
    Although I'm Horde through and through, I am also a fan of Midwinter. I think they are a great representation of what a hardcore raiding guild should be (and so is Method).

    Blood Legion is good, but I really dislike how they run their ship. It works for them, and I can respect that.

    In any sense, don't count on Method facerolling Midwinter. Like was said earlier- there's much less luck factored in now versus the release race. And it won't come down to number of hours/pulls spent, but rather strategy perfection.
  1. Alltat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorTjc View Post
    Really? Method vs Midwinter? Method will stomp them, no competition. It should Method vs Blood Legion; now that's what I want to see.
    They hardly "stomped" them last time. It was really close all the way up to Ra'den and Midwinter was ahead for a while at Dark Animus.
  1. lunchbox2042's Avatar
    They had to really dig deep to find an alliance vs horde live raid.
  1. Flowsion's Avatar
    Really happy midwinter are participating, great guild with great people. Looking forward to it!
  1. mmoc9aa38bccdb's Avatar
    So basically WW Monks will be even better now? Nice...
  1. ItachiZaku's Avatar
    Go #TeamMethod !!
  1. Rolly's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Alenarien View Post
    I can smell the sarcasm from here.
    LOL yea I got a giggle out of that.

    Re-introducing short term buffs after the player base took years to convince them it just was not fun is a pretty good indicator that the current development team is out of ideas and is just regurgitating the original teams development.

    I can hardly wait for warlock drain tanking and hunter ammo, even better maybe a class should get 5 minute buffs they can give other raid members depending on their class.
  1. Toiran's Avatar
    I love the live raids, especially the races and I'm sure Blizzard will add in some interesting things like they have done before, Hogger wiping the raid, 10 bosses spawned at once etc.

    Honestly, was more nerfs to LFR really needed? Maybe Garrosh for now, but Iron Jugg etc?

    I'll be following Method, they are good at this, but Midwinter aren't exactly far behind or a pushover so, it will be interesting to watch, as races have shown in the past, one guild can be ahead 95% of the entire run, then boom, wipe, other team pulls ahead.

    Can't wait for Blizzcon, is there a cut off date to buy a virtual ticket or is it just up until the first day?

    P.S The last Midwinter vs Method race is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZqI875gW8 if anyone wants to see it.
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Toiran View Post
    Can't wait for Blizzcon, is there a cut off date to buy a virtual ticket or is it just up until the first day?
    You can buy it up to a week or two after the event IIRC.
  1. Ganksinatra's Avatar
    I have never understood the fanboi mentality for the "hardcore" raiders in this game. For the most part, especially after you see how many attempts it takes some of these guilds, it's not a matter of how skilled they are at playing the game, rather how much time they have to sit in a dungeon for extended periods of time. Back in the day of MMOs, you couldn't slam your head against the raiding wall for 4 days straight because if you did, you deleveled, and then it was impossible to raid. I'm not trying to take anything away from these folks' accomplishments, I'm really not. But lets stop acting like it took skill and not copious amounts of time to make it where they are. Show me a guild that beats the new tier of raiding first, with no practicing on the PTR, AND they kill every boss within 10 attempts, and then we can talk. Till then......meh.
  1. Tarx's Avatar
    It is so cool besicaly awesome dota but WAH is realy bad name.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    "Are you planning to keep the current spec and talent system in the expansion? Cause I, for one, love it!

    you did especially good job with the mage 90 talents"

    This is hilarious, has to be sarcasm.
  1. MrExcelion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chaud View Post
    You can buy it up to a week or two after the event IIRC.
    Yup, they keep it open for VoD reasons, that and last minute pet buyers
  1. delus's Avatar
    Sad that method has such an advantage. Maybe they could tweak the racials in an internal build to make them equal.
  1. souldawg's Avatar
    they release this but not who is closing for blizzcon D:
  1. Achaman's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Farora View Post
    Do people really care about live raids? Hardcore guilds 'excel' at months of preparing and putting in time, not at pressing 1-2-3-4 better than others. So is it all that interesting to watch?
    um no, no its not


    warcraft alliance horde? wow what a shitty name
  1. Somarlane's Avatar
    I don't want to knock the dev - that stuff looks so sweet I'm salivating - but "WAH"? Really? :\
  1. lostdrewid's Avatar
    Come on Blizzard, look at this and tell me why we can't have Warcraft IV. *Please*?
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