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Trial of the Gladiator
There was concern today that the new Trial of the Gladiator feature means the arena ladder will be removed, but it looks like more information will be coming in the future.


Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
If you’re looking for some great Arena action, then Trial of the Gladiator is for you. Building on the same system used for the Arena Tournament realm, players who take part in Trial of the Gladiator will be able to enter and purchase gear, enchants, and gems from a vendor, and then match skills with other players. Similar to the Arena Tournament realm, an array of equal-quality gear and items will be available to all players, putting everyone on the same footing from the start of competition.

Any player will be able to queue for this new feature once it’s available, but you’ll only be able to earn a rating during specific days and times of the week that rated competition opens up. This will help make the pool of serious combatants more concentrated, allowing the system to match players more accurately based on skill and helping ensure rated battles provide a highly competitive experience.

You’ll be able to practice whenever you like outside of those times, but if you want to earn the prestige awards, you’ll need to hone your skills and climb to the top of the ladder at the appointed times. We also don’t want to penalize people too heavily for missing a scheduled combat or two, and we’re looking into ways to make sure the system strikes the right balance between flexibility and cutting-edge competition.

Connected Realms Update
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As previously announced, we’ve been working toward connecting realms to increase the number of players on low-population realms, and since then have completed several connections. As a part of our ongoing communication, we wanted to provide you with an update that contains a list of completed realm connections, currently planned connections, and any additional future plans in one convenient location.

*Please note this list does not encompass all potential future connections. Please check back for further updates.

​We will be connecting the realms listed below on Monday, November 18th during a scheduled maintenance beginning at 6 a.m. PST through approximately 11:00 a.m. PST. Once maintenance is finished, these realm connections will be complete.

  • Draenor and Echo Isles
  • Gorgonnash and Balnazzar/Warsong
  • Lethon and Blackwing Lair/Dethecus, Detheroc, Haomarush
  • Lightning's Blade and Burning Blade/Onyxia
  • Smolderthorn and Anub'arak/Chromaggus/Garithos

​Future Connections
We do not have a date for the following realm connections, but will update this blog post when we do.

​​Batch 1
  • Azshara and Azgalor
  • Arygos and Llane
  • Cairne and Perenolde
  • Nathrezim and Anub'arak/Chromaggus/Garithos/Smolderthorn
  • Zangarmarsh and Hellscream

Batch 2
  • Coilfang and Dark Iron
  • Fenris and Dragonblight
  • Spirestone and Drak'Tharon/Firetree/Malorne/Rivendare
  • Ysondre and Magtheridon

​Plans for these connections may change at any time, but we’ll provide additional updates on specific dates for future connections here as we can. Please note that as a part of the connection process realm times may change to match each other.

Flying in Warlords of Draenor
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Warlords of Draenor and Flying Mounts
No no no no no. I have paid what? something like 100,000 gold to buy flight for all my alts? You make us pay more gold to learn to fly in new zones and now you're taking this away from us?

No this doesnt fly with me at all. What next? Level up an alt but she can't fly until I do the same quest? I appreciate you want to make something feel epic again. Taking something away from me that I've repeatedly earned and paid for sucks.

I'm also tired of leveling up again with no flight. Once I have mastered flight, I should be able to buy a tome like cold weather flying. I dislike no flying until 6.1, but making me quest againto earn something I have sunk MASSIVE gold into, doesnt leave a good taste in my mouth.

Flying isn't being taken away. It's still there in all the other places you've earned it/gained it. All of those mounts you have are still usable. You just won't be using them in Draenor (at least to fly with) until a little while later and you'll still be able to get it at some point. We plan to make travel though via flight paths as convenient as possible and make being on the ground worth it via discoveries within the world. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warlords of Draenor and Flying Mounts
Those of you who are worried about the lack of flying early on in the expansion, remember that it will only apply to the new zones, and only for a limited time in most cases. The new zones are being designed with this in mind too—we're being extra careful to ensure that flying isn't missed too much. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warlords of Draenor and Flying Mounts
I just want to emphasise to those of you who are worried: we're working to make sure you won't be hugely inconvenienced by the loss of flying as you explore the new content. There'll also be a sturdy flight path network to get you from A to B. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warlords of Draenor and Flying Mounts
Its not cool its just tedious and annoying to have to relearn to fly every gd expac. You know the expac I had the most fun leveling in Bash? It was cata because I could fly I could skip the camping skum i could nuke my quests; and then when I got to 85 I could put on a tabard and just grind my rep, it wasn't daily gated so I got it all done in about a day and a half it was wonderful.
We know there is some portion of players that raid, or have some specific end-game goal, and that leveling and questing and mobs and the story and the actual rest of the game in general just gets in the way of that. But ultimately "racing to end-game so you can put on a tabard and grind out rep" isn't the name of the game we're making. We're not going to be able to force you to care about the music, or setting, or experience, but you gotta understand that the rest of the game is for everyone else that does care about those things, and at least consider the logical reasons we present that makes that content better for them, even if it means it could maybe slightly disrupt your ability to chain-queue for Heroics.

Why not make the air more dangerous instead of taking away flying.
We've tried that quite a few times, it's really just a symptom of how the game mechanics function that most of our forays into dangerous flight just feel really bad. On one hand they feel unnecessarily harsh because there's only a few things you can really do to someone while they're flying and they generally deal with stuns/slows/dismounts, and on the other hand there's just no fun gameplay that can really be had there. The best gameplay is at ground level because that's the basis for the design of our game's combat systems. We'd toyed with mounted/flying combat in the past but that could almost be a totally separate game on its own, and probably gets us too far away from what WoW is.

How would this questing to unlock flying be the same? Its essentially dailies with the new name of Epic questing chain. You would most likely have to repeatly do things everyday or every week until you earn a certain gated number.
Do I need to go edit that part out, or is everyone going to be able to refrain from deciding exactly what it is (and being angry about it) before we've even designed it?

Nah, never mind, editing it out. Everyone is just going to focus on that and make assumptions about what that means. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warlords of Draenor Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Arenas
I don't know where this idea came from, but just to clear things up, we have no plans to remove the current Arena ladder. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Professions
We do want to slim down on the overall number of gems and enchants you'll need to put on your gear. That's primarily a quality of life change. We want to make it less of a hassle to be able to equip a new item.

That said, we don't think these changes have to mean that e.g. Jewelcrafting will no longer be a decent source of income. We could -- and this is purely a hypothetical example -- make the best gems rarer, which would drive prices up and increase profit margins. If you can make just as much gold (comparatively) off of one gem in Warlords as you can selling three in Mists, that'll help substantially. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Racial Changes
There aren’t plans for any broad, sweeping changes to racial abilities in 6.0. We’ll probably tune some numbers so some racials feel less mandatory in certain cases. Also, due to the changes we announced at BlizzCon, there are several hit and expertise-based racials that will need to be replaced with something new—hopefully we can use those new racials to help shore up racial balance overall. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Yak Reforge NPC
We've talked about different options. Maybe transmog? Maybe item upgrades? We don't know yet. Your thoughts/feedback would be helpful. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Warlords of Draenor Heirlooms UI
It's a new UI of (essentially) buttons that will "light up" when you obtain one (or have obtained one) of the heirlooms. Click the button and an item of that type will be generated and put into your bags. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Character Transfer Services
It looks like there are no plans to add a bulk character transfer option at this time.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The cost associated with the migration service actually helps to regulate the amount of realm hopping going on, which in turn helps to prevent huge 'overnight' realm population fluctuations.

It's certainly a useful service for people who find themselves stranded without friends etc. but we don't currently have any plans to change the way it works or add a multi-character move option. However, we hear you loud and clear and will continue to pass on everyone's thoughts.

Some very valid points, thanks once again.

I've mentioned this in other threads, but right now—especially during the Connected Realms roll-out—we're not looking to make any changes to the migration services. Once things have settled, we can take a step back and assess the situation.

Please know that we totally want you all to be having the best possible experience while playing. There is no simple fix to this that works for everyone. There are solid reasons why we can't currently offer free transfers to any realm, even with cooldowns as some have suggested, but we're constantly working to develop and implement other solutions that will help as many people as possible.

Patch 5.4.2 PTR - Power Word: Barrier
The 100% damage reduction on Power Word: Barrier in the latest PTR build is just a tooltip error.

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  1. SkyeMcCloud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zurich View Post
    I don't know if you noticed but to keep up and stay competitive you have stuff to do on daily basis and no flying = a lot more time every day

    I don't mind taking longer to get to 100 ... actually I would prefer it taking longer really, I do mind taking longer to do stuff you kinda have to do every day/week/... to stay at the ''top'' and be able to stay competitive so you can do the content properly (raids)
    It's funny how they said they're trying to, y'know, NOT do that with WoD. They want to move away from just daily grinding every day. They want the max level quest experience to be just that; quests. You do them once and that's it. Yes, you'll see some dailies, but if they keep to what they said you'll see a lot less. They're trying to find a balance in it all, and that takes experimenting. A dungeon-only model, as was the way for many factions back in vanilla and BC, wasn't fun. The tabards were nice but made it way TOO easy, because people could ignore dailies if they wanted. Doing dailies is just taxing. So let's see what they plan to try out next and see if it works.
  1. markdall's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by FrogFries View Post
    I don't really see the problem with not being able to fly in Draenor. Seems like people are just complaining over something trivial.
    Heh. Roll on a PVP server - make sure you're in the losing faction population-wise - play there for a good six months, and then say that again. Me, I play on a PVE server now and couldn't care less, other than it's really insulting and makes my characters feel much less heroic. Oh and my remaining alts on that PVP server are even more super dead to me now.

    "Nah, never mind, editing it out. Everyone is just going to focus on that and make assumptions about what that means." <-- Really Blizz? And what does that tell you? That your decision is unpopular? That we hate the very idea of having to quest to get flying back in the first place? How about a 1 step quest immediately after the patch drops, or an item in our mailboxes from a super-smart gnome or goblin which magically/mechanically enables us to fly?

    That said, they've acknowledged the bigger problem a couple of times - that basically each expansion pack sets to a relative level 1 and you have to level up from scratch, and so far making us feel badass at the beginning is really hard without making the game feel too easy.

    Finally, I do appreciate their words on why they don't just make flying dangerous and be done with it. I had brought this up a number of times. They said it's an engine and game system thing. While that's too bad, it's at least understandable.
  1. Gilian's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkarus View Post
    As I said before, Blizzard spoiled ppl so much that now looks like they are taking off a candy from a baby...
    Stop being lazy, summon your stupid horse and walk, look for chests, for rare mobs, kill things, kill ppl, explore, run, die, laugh, it's a damn MMORPG...
    "No no no no no. I have paid what? something like 100,000 gold to buy flight for all my alts? You make us pay more gold to learn to fly in new zones and now you're taking this away from us? "

    I paid just as much for riding skills "back in the day" as today while gold wasn't as available as it is now. That when you hit max level you have 20k gold from questing only.
    You actually had to farm the gold instead of having it automatically from questing. As a new player I wasn't even able to buy basic riding skills without having to get gold from somewhere unlike now. And it took me quite some time to get 5k gold for my epic flying skill during TBC while now I just buy it instantly as soon as I ding max level without the help of other characters.

    So yeah I agree, spoiled. If I had children and they complained like some people here... that's really not going to fly.

    I don't even understand why it matters if you fly, ride or walk as long as it's fun. If it's about the gold, everyone paid for it and we have never been able to fly straight away in a new expansion except cataclysm for very good reasons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdall View Post
    Heh. Roll on a PVP server - make sure you're in the losing faction population-wise - play there for a good six months, and then say that again. Me, I play on a PVE server now and couldn't care less, other than it's really insulting and makes my characters feel much less heroic. Oh and my remaining alts on that PVP server are even more super dead to me now.
    You heard about connected realms by now I hope. They are actually trying to fix this right now...

    Also, having to PvP on a PvP server. Logic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazicals View Post
    I might be in a minority but I support the idea of no flying until first major patch.

    Game designers go to a tremendous amount of effort in designing these new zones, and they want us to be able to see everything first hand as opposed to just flying past it all.

    They just want us to see the zones in all it's glamour and glory. It's not a bad thing at all.
    I support it too. You will experience the content much better and you will have a lot more fun that way.
    Sometimes they just have to force players to do something to make it work out.
  1. Tarx's Avatar
    We gona lost the fun of killing ungeared people in 3sec. It was quite awesome.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    I'm convinced they're trying to make as many people cancel.

    1. Let's do an item squish and make people log in and freak out cause they feel weaker.
    2. Let's take away flying from them for 3 months. Did all those dailies to unlock your awesome onyx cloud serpent? Suck it up you won't be seeing it for awhile!
    3. Let's change your character and when you don't like it tell you to suck it up and pay to fix it!
    4. You like raiding in a 10m? Too bad! Go recruit an entire raid team or quit, we don't care!
    5. Removing gear customization cause that stuff is too hard gaiz!

    It's interesting that they seem to like to try and piss off as many people they can at the start of expansions. Then they spend the rest of the expansion doing interviews saying they regret what they did. It's so weird. And we all know they aren't done. There will probably be two or three more announcements sure to drive even more people away.
  1. Zokten's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post

    3. I looooove the excuses they're giving for charging for character transfers. Have they seen the realm inbalances? Charging didn't stop it. People still hopped around. Other mmo's don't charge to change servers. I wonder why that is.
    GW2 was a prime example of the terrible side of free transfers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raeliron View Post
    People don't take the time to explore and have fun. Maybe it's because WoW has become to much of a hurry to end-game and beat the bosses race to the finish deal. I prefer that feeling of taking my time and enjoying it and understanding the reasons why I'm going to this new area, and what it is I need to understand and explore
    Blizzard is partly to blame for that mentality
  1. Soeroah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    It's cute that you guys on a gaming forum think you're the majority. Newsflash, you're not. The casuals will roar when they can't find the guy selling flying at 100. I look forward to it.
    I remember this exact explanation being offered for every expansion/patch killing WoW.

    "You might think the majority of players like X expansion/patch but just wait and see the subscriber count plummet".

    Yet here we are, after a successful Panda-based expansion, looking forward to another great expansion on the horizon.

    I look forward to the expansion too. Gonna be great getting some mileage out of my ground mounts for a while, and the feeling of flying when it comes in 6.1 will be all the sweeter!
  1. Schwert's Avatar
    And while everybody is whining about flying...

    Arena rewards have become locked out even more to most of the playerbase including Gladiator level players who don't live in the US or want to have a life outside the game.
    They needed to attract more people to rated PvP and give out more rewards to more people to get the wheel turning; Not give the same few people the same thing over and over again.
    Holy hell.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Soeroah View Post
    I remember this exact explanation being offered for every expansion/patch killing WoW.

    "You might think the majority of players like X expansion/patch but just wait and see the subscriber count plummet".

    Yet here we are, after a successful Panda-based expansion, looking forward to another great expansion on the horizon.

    I look forward to the expansion too. Gonna be great getting some mileage out of my ground mounts for a while, and the feeling of flying when it comes in 6.1 will be all the sweeter!
    You think losing subscribers is successful? You must be a Blizzard employee.
  1. thorvath's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Soeroah View Post
    I remember this exact explanation being offered for every expansion/patch killing WoW.

    "You might think the majority of players like X expansion/patch but just wait and see the subscriber count plummet".

    Yet here we are, after a successful Panda-based expansion, looking forward to another great expansion on the horizon.

    I look forward to the expansion too. Gonna be great getting some mileage out of my ground mounts for a while, and the feeling of flying when it comes in 6.1 will be all the sweeter!
    Uh like 3 million people stopped playing. And a lot of those that stayed basically bitched about dailies and LFR the whole expac. I don't see Wrath losing it's "Golden Age" status anytime soon.
  1. Zurich's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by thorvath View Post
    Uh like 3 million people stopped playing. And a lot of those that stayed basically bitched about dailies and LFR the whole expac. I don't see Wrath losing it's "Golden Age" status anytime soon.
    wrath was amazing, it had my fav zones, my fav raid, I liked the main city actually being in Northrend instead of SW and Org (because you spent enough time in those 2 even then) ... it just generally had the best feel to it all

    I would love to play it all again but sadly it's now impossible to play anything from wotlk normally :'(

    Cata was imo the worst expansion to date (one of the worst things in cata for me were zones and so far draenor zones sound to me like they could be quite similar), MoP I really like but it's not what wotlk used to be (I especially love teh pandaria zones, but even that will soon be forgotten)

    I love wow because of it's world and the savage primal land of Draenor (as it was described) just doesn't sound to me like something I would want to spend a lot of time in, storm peaks, howling fjord, grizzly hills, kun lai summit, jade forrest, valley of the 4 winds, ... those kinds of zones I love because thy are beautiful to just explore and travel around
  1. Gilian's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I'm convinced they're trying to make as many people cancel.

    1. Let's do an item squish and make people log in and freak out cause they feel weaker.
    2. Let's take away flying from them for 3 months. Did all those dailies to unlock your awesome onyx cloud serpent? Suck it up you won't be seeing it for awhile!
    3. Let's change your character and when you don't like it tell you to suck it up and pay to fix it!
    4. You like raiding in a 10m? Too bad! Go recruit an entire raid team or quit, we don't care!
    5. Removing gear customization cause that stuff is too hard gaiz!

    It's interesting that they seem to like to try and piss off as many people they can at the start of expansions. Then they spend the rest of the expansion doing interviews saying they regret what they did. It's so weird. And we all know they aren't done. There will probably be two or three more announcements sure to drive even more people away.
    So they should not make any changes? That will also piss people off. If they make riding skill cost one gold more people will be pissed off... apparently :S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    You think losing subscribers is successful? You must be a Blizzard employee.
    Making flying mounts available will obviously fix that!
  1. Sarevokcz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrulerxxx View Post
    In reality, the whiners about no flying till 6.1 are the vocal minority. MMO Champ already has polls showing favor to no flying so in reality, it's not a problem, it's just the whiners whining too much.

    Cant wait for the next expac!
    you have it backwards, son. the vocal minority are the ultrahardcore blizzard fans on these boards, while casuals, who will be impacted most by this change arent even here. thats why the polls (barely) show pro-change support, because you are in the vocal minority.
  1. Durandro's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    you have it backwards, son. the vocal minority are the ultrahardcore blizzard fans on these boards, while casuals, who will be impacted most by this change arent even here. thats why the polls (barely) show pro-change support, because you are in the vocal minority.
    Let events speak for themselves, "son".

    The level of whine on the forums vastly outnumbers that in-game. No-one in my guild has vocalised any real issues with the current news. Tradechat isn't being spammed by butthurt players. The only tears I see are here and on official forums.

    Please, carry on. Make assumptions and prejudge and complain. Its amusing to those of us who've seen it all happen before, and know that waiting patiently for the end result usually results in few disappointments.
  1. phyx's Avatar
    Well, if the people who'll leave share any similarities in opinion with some of these posters, I don't see that as a bad thing.

    Yes, having by far the largest MMO in history a decade after it's release is successful. It's pretty obvious why WotlK was peak of WoW. They did mess some things up along the road but even if they didn't people would leave. It's how games work. Especially games that are 10 years old.

    I salute no-flying decision. I has a lot of pros and the only con it really has is that they are taking fastest means of travel. Travel. Travel.
  1. Moorice's Avatar
    Still no hearthstone key, huge sadness upon me!
  1. Reignisevil's Avatar
    I don't see the issue about no flying...Why is that bad...? It's been done in the past..

    They made it pretty clear that they're taking away server first 100
    You don't even have to fly to dungeons anymore cause you got LFG system
    If you do have rep items needed again, you can use flight path to get to the quartermaster in that town
    Why would you want to skip mobs if they give you xp? Or can you not just follow the road and have to be that daring person who likes to run in everything?
    Gold is so easy to get now, that you'll eventually be ok to buy it once it does come out I don't even know how that's even a reliable counter-argument..

    I just don't get it...What is no flying really taking away...laziness? I have some pretty hot ground mounts that I look forward to using again. I feel likes people are trying to make them change their minds...they couldn't do it with 20-man mythics..so moving on to the next thing..

    I doubt people can even just sit down..and actually wait till the expac is out to start giving real feedback...It's not even out yet...you haven't even experienced it yet...why in heaven's name are people complaining. I feel like people are kids that get a new type of food in front of their face..say they don't like it without trying..and then when forced to eat it...it becomes their favorite type of food. If you don't like it..well darn..the least you can do is try without saying anything until you're 100% sure.
  1. Umbranox's Avatar
    I'm sick of people moaning about no flying. I'm surprised Blizz is even answering these questions anymore. They are doing it to make gameplay more fun not just to spite you. If you can fly you can just pick up the quest, fly in a straight line to the objective, complete it and fly straight back. Where's the fun in that? I loved questing in Pandaria when it was released, making my way through the zones with friends, deciding to move to a new zone and finding the way there. So can we please stop with the stupid questions so we can get some real info.

    For example does anyone know how heirlooms will work. They plan to change stats on a piece of gear if you change spec. Will it be the same for heirlooms? Will there just be a plate, leather, mail, cloth set now or the same as usual? If so will it not feel a bit strange when everything else changes to your spec except the heirlooms?
  1. vandam's Avatar
    In reality, the whiners about no flying till 6.1 are the vocal minority. MMO Champ already has polls showing favor to no flying so in reality, it's not a problem, it's just the whiners whining too much.

    Cant wait for the next expac!
    The MMO comunity is full of elitistjerks and special snowflakes .

    Every time when Blizzard did something mosty of them wanted , the game lost a huge amount of subscribers.

    Because the huge silent majority vote with the wallets , not on MMO-Champion.
  1. Lemonpartyfan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I'm convinced they're trying to make as many people cancel.

    1. Let's do an item squish and make people log in and freak out cause they feel weaker.
    2. Let's take away flying from them for 3 months. Did all those dailies to unlock your awesome onyx cloud serpent? Suck it up you won't be seeing it for awhile!
    3. Let's change your character and when you don't like it tell you to suck it up and pay to fix it!
    4. You like raiding in a 10m? Too bad! Go recruit an entire raid team or quit, we don't care!
    5. Removing gear customization cause that stuff is too hard gaiz!

    It's interesting that they seem to like to try and piss off as many people they can at the start of expansions. Then they spend the rest of the expansion doing interviews saying they regret what they did. It's so weird. And we all know they aren't done. There will probably be two or three more announcements sure to drive even more people away.
    I think we would all be fine if you decided to cancel. While some of your complaints seem bad at first, ALL OF THEM have GREAT CONSEQUENCES. Convenience and all options isn't a good thing. Some things like item squishes are necessary, not to mention, you ALWAYS feel weaker in a new xpac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    you have it backwards, son. the vocal minority are the ultrahardcore blizzard fans on these boards, while casuals, who will be impacted most by this change arent even here. thats why the polls (barely) show pro-change support, because you are in the vocal minority.
    Well, "son," I don't see how casuals would be impacted more by this, all players are subject to all changes.

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