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Patch 5.4.2 - Karazhan Cleanup
You might have noticed the addition of a new phase, "Karazhan Restoration" in the latest PTR build. It is unclear what that phase will be used for, but the regular version of Karazhan has seen some cleanup in 5.4.2. Most of the spiderwebs, skeletons, and overturned chairs have been removed. All other signs of abandonment and age remain untouched.




Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Warlords of Draenor Beta
Yes, No or IDK interview question time! Will we see WoD Beta before the end of February?
IDK (Source)

Warlords' preview looked great but pretty raw compared to how polished everything was for the Pandaria announcement.
That's odd. Feels like we are farther along for WoD than we were for MoP. (Source)

Classes
Will tank dps be looked at for WoD, It's just not right that they are top on so many encounters. They should NEVER be
We are planning on changing Vengeance to only affect defenses and just making tank abilities hit harder. (Source)
That should let tank DPS be relevant, without it being absurd. They may still win meters on big AE fights. (Source)

DoT snapshotting existed before MoP and it's a skill differentiator. The balance issue is Pandemic.
The real issue is temp stat boosts. We just can't do them in class CDs, trinkets etc. when snapshotting is so prominent (Source)

Spirit won't matter as long as you have varied regen mechanics, mindbender vs innervate? rofl. 600kmana/9min vs 180k/9min...
You can't compare spells in a vacuum. Who runs out of mana first, the Holy priest or Resto druid? (Source)

Druid (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Hey.. speaking of the new character models.. will druid forms get some love aswell?
I doubt it. They were redone fairly recently in the grand scheme of things. (Source)

Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
You say you want hunters to fill the role of mobile ranged, then give us Snipe. I don't get it. (1of2)
The intent is someone who is willing to deal with the challenge of non 100% movement can perhaps benefit from DPS. It's optional. (Source)

Mage (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Will fire mages get a revamp in 6.0? You remarked before they need work but was not essential in 5.4.
in what way do you think that combustion is hard to understand?
It's not hard to understand per se it's the insane decision tree that Combustion + Alter Time creates & the penalty for failing (Source)

Rogue (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Is slice and dice deleted for Warlords of draenor (for sub and combat)?
Not at the moment. We just want to distinguish rotations a bit more by not having all rogues have to manage it. (Source)

Warlords of Draenor Flying
I was wondering if Blizzard was planning to cut flying altogether from WoD? The forums can be a scary place sometimes. :|
No. We like no flying when content is relevant. In 6.1 the Draenor zones won't be current, but there will be a new no-fly zone. (Source)

No Flying till 6.1 = Awesome. Will we have FelReaver-esque SAVAGE things to look out for and remember for years to come?
Yes. It is a world of giants. There are gronn and even larger things stomping about. (Source)

We have to quest to fly in 6.1? Why is Blizzard so in love with grinds? I just want to pvp.
The soul of the game is progression. You overcome challenges to earn things. Rewards for free don't feel like rewards. (Source)

Put a compelling, interesting, or fun activity in that encourages people not to fly. Don’t force it
Is there anything fun or compelling about raid trash? Repair costs? Earning lesser charms? Yet those still have value... (Source)

Name one thing that barring flight gives you that you couldn't do with a little bit of ingenuity without barring flight.
Swoop down, kill quest target, fly away without fighting anything else. (Source)
It seems a lot of the dislike for flying is from pvp? Would I be correct in that assumption?
A small part of it, but we also hate the way folks quest with flying mounts. Swoop down, unlock prison cage, swoop away. (Source)
Questing is boring and tedious as hell at this point. I'd rather just be done with it ASAP.
We don't want it to be an endless slog, but we do view questing as a core component of the experience. (Source)

Can’t wait to see the end of WoD when “No flying” is written off as a mistake after all your defending. Same as dailies were
It's always possible, but we were happy with no flying until 90 and no flying on Timeless Isle or Isle of Thunder. (Source)

PvE
Quick question: what's your favourite class/spec & raid boss? I know you work in a lot of those, but pick one of each
It wouldn't be prudent to answer the first. For the second, tie between new Ragnaros and Lei Shen. (Source)
Lich King was amazing (fav by miles), rag was sick too though. Lei Shen has been one of the best balanced bosses tho
I liked LK a lot, but if I'm being honest, too much of the fight was burning adds or Defile lightning reflexes. Still great. (Source)

can we please have CD reset on ICD effects on boss pull?
We are going to work very hard to make lining up everything on the pull less of a thing. It causes bad gameplay overall. (Source)

Are we supposed to clear Normal *and* Heroic before getting to Mythic?
Just heroic. If you are a mythic prone guild (mythic curious?) then normal is probably too easy and unrewarding for you. (Source)

Delay the start of raiding in WoD for 1 ~ 2 weeks please! Nice to be able to level without having to rush.
We think that worked out well for MoP. (Source)

Plus, the word Mythic sounds pretty awesome, in my opinion. That matters to people, right?
But everyone at Blizzcon called it MYSTIC. (Source)
Avoid the Mythic/Mystic confusion. Use a word you already use. Legendary Raid!
When we debated that, the fear was the immediate assumption that it dropped all orange loot. (Source)

While there are more 10h than 25h raiders, both groups are still very small. We support heroic raiding, but let's keep the in perspective. (Source)
This is going to be like 5.0 dailies. Wrong solution to the right problem. The ICC system is preferable to a single size.
The problem with ICC is the 10-player raiders felt like second class citizens since the ilevels were lower. (Source)
So how does returning ten mans to second class status make sense now? That is where they are going back to.
Ten player raiding is extremely popular and we are going to continue to support it. Ten player heroic raiding is much less popular. (Source)

For the much larger population of 10n players, flex in 6.0 will only help them. (Source)
The problem with flex is, people stop at 13-14 players because mechanics switch to 25m mode. People dont want to fill up.
There are some break points today, but we've fixed most of those for 6.0. (Source)

Will Mythic mode have to be unlocked by completing Heroic mode? Much like going from Normal mode > Heroic mode is now.
Not sure yet, but it will definitely unlock a week later like it does today. (Source)
but we can start in heroic mode right?Two clears before we can "start" would kinda kill the excitement IMO
Current plan (could change) is N and H on week two, Mythic on week three (if you've beaten H) and LFR after that. (Source)

It looks like it's an RL option, like today it's just another option on the list.
Correct. In LFR it's always personal. Else, raid leader can choose. You can argue he or she should go personal in a pug. (Source)
Can you tell if the groups made from the new Browsing Raid will be able to change Loot Specialization middle raid?
Sure. We'll likely still have bonus rolls, and those are always personal even if your loot system is not. (Source)
Would you consider keeping all mount/pet drops as personal even if loot system is not?
I'd worry that some groups like to decide who gets the mount. (Source)

Computers - Setup of the Month (by chaud)
Each month or every 2 months, depending on the hardware evolutions, the lovely chaud will work on a couple of hardware setups for those of you who are thinking of upgrading their computer!

This month
New GPUs from AMD are on the way, so if you are only upgrading your GPU it might be worth it to wait a month or two.

The current SSD prices are stable, with most SSDs under $1 per gigabyte when on sale. RAM prices are remaining high.

The Haswell CPUs run a little bit on the warmer side. Depending on how much you want to overclock, you may need to spend a bit more for a better CPU cooler like the NH-D14 or H90.

Unless you are doing a lot of video rendering or something that is similarly multithreaded, you do not need the 4770K and should spend that money elsewhere.

Make sure to keep your AMD and Nvidia drivers up to date.

Don't hesitate to post any feedback in the comments of that news post, and don't forget to visit the Computer Forum for any extra questions! If you are interested in Folding@home, take a look in our team's thread.


Peripherals/Monitors
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
MonitorAsus VE228H 21.5-Inch Monitor - $126ASUS VS248H-P 24-Inch Monitor - $160
KeyboardKensington Pro Fit Media Keyboard - $18Cyborg V.5 - $45
MouseLogitech G400s - $45Razer Deathadder - $47
SpeakersCreative A220 2.1 Speaker System - $28Logitech Z313 Speaker System - $35
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
MonitorAsus VE258Q 25-Inch Monitor - $213HP ZR2440W 24-inch - $333
KeyboardLogitech G510s - $82CM Storm QuickFire XT - $95
MouseLogitech G500 - $62Razer Naga (Buttons on the Side) - $70
SpeakersLogitech Z323 2.1 Speaker System - $53Logitech Speaker System Z523 - $65


Puppy and Dolphin
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Puppy and Dolphin.
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
CaseNZXT Source 210 - $35NZXT Source 210 - $35
Power SupplyCorsair CX500 - $50XFX Core Edition PRO 550W - $60
CPUAMD FX-6300 - $119AMD FX-8320 - $160
HeatsinkCooler Master Hyper 212 Plus - $25Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $33
MotherboardASUS M5A97 R2.0 - $95ASUS M5A99FX PRO - $118
MemoryKingston HyperX Blu 4GB 1333 - $408GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $80
Graphics CardMSI 7790 OC - $100Gigabyte R9 270X or Gigabyte GTX 660 - $207 / $170
Hard DriveWestern Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $56Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - $87
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22
Total$542$765 - $802


Narwhal and Unicorn
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Narwhal and Unicorn.
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
CaseCooler Master HAF 912 - $60Corsair Air 540 (Special Layout) - $150
Power SupplyCorsair 650TX V2 - $90Corsair 750HX - $110
CPUIntel i5-4670K - $235Intel i7-4770K - $339
HeatsinkThermaltake Frio - $56Noctua 6 NH-D14 - $78
MotherboardASUS Z87-A - $144ASUS Z87-PLUS - $160
Memory8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $8016GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $162
Graphics CardXFX 7950 OR MSI N760 TF - $250 / $250Gigabyte R9 280X OR ASUS GTX 770 - $300 / $315
Hard DriveWestern Digital 1TB Caviar Black - $87Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black - $87
SSDSAMSUNG 840 128GB (Review) - $120
OR
Plextor 128 GB M5 Pro (Review) - $113
Corsair Neutron GTX 120GB (Review) - $130
OR
SAMSUNG 840 Pro 128GB (Review) - $132
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22
Total$1137 - $1156$1521 - $1555


Blizzcon Cosplay Video
Blizzcon had some very nice cosplay this year!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 5.4.2 - Karazhan Cleanup, Blue Tweets, Setup of the Month, Blizzcon Cosplay started by chaud View original post
Comments 142 Comments
  1. Grunhither's Avatar
    Karazhan is definitely interesting, and I'd enjoy getting some more lore on it.

    Top of tower while in the raid is different than tower top outside of it. Possibly part of another dimension? As you climb the tower, things get stranger and stranger.

    Prince Malch had a strange loot table. A blood elven bow (possibly something from Kael'thas during his pact with Kil'Jaedin?) and he had Gorhowl, the axe both Grom and Garrosh use(d). He also had quotes such as "All realities, all dimensions are open to me!" reffering to the possibility of Karazhan having time travel/dimension hopping abilities.

    I think Medivh is definitely the one who alters the Dark Portal and potentially the last boss of WoD. They said the ending of WoD will tie into the next expansion. Medivh would definitely be able to lead into the Burning Legion expack that's almost certain to follow WOD. And I hope they scenario a version of Kara for a pre-WOD event, possibly with a Khadgar vs Medivh moment! :P
  1. Granyala's Avatar
    Some nice costumes but horrible music.
    Thankfully some genius invented the mute button.
  1. Aboubacar's Avatar
    It's going to be a scenario where the setup to new xpac takes place. The probably copied kara over somewhere to clean it up for a scenario/pre expansion event. Original kara won't be harmed obviously.

    lol@anyone thinks there will be a revamped raid.
  1. Magemaer's Avatar
    As i said before my bet is on Medivh being WoD final boss.

    Oh and how come they always find suggestive some suggestive frame to showcase youtube videos? This one is so misleading, i clicked expecting some sort of threesome in cosplay.
  1. grexly75's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by fappasaurus View Post
    It's going to be a scenario where the setup to new xpac takes place. The probably copied kara over somewhere to clean it up for a scenario/pre expansion event. Original kara won't be harmed obviously.

    lol@anyone thinks there will be a revamped raid.
    And how do you know do you have a hotline into Blizz HQ, they might revamping Kara for a new raid no one knows only Blizz do..
  1. Wilhelm137's Avatar
    Well I see they took off the false advertising of videos and broke it into 2 separate videos where the pictures are different.
  1. Jakins's Avatar
    "Will druid forms get updated?"
    "lolnope, they were updated recently"

    UHHH BLIZZARD, are you forgetting MOONKIN and TREANT again??

    Moonkins still kick their own flabby ass whenever they walk! They desperately need an update.
  1. drackgon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Pretty excited for Kara
    this might be nothing but the pic mores, u see the add to boss swtiches wp in new picture? or am I being stupid?
  1. markdall's Avatar
    "We have to quest to fly in 6.1? Why is Blizzard so in love with grinds? I just want to pvp.
    The soul of the game is progression. You overcome challenges to earn things. Rewards for free don't feel like rewards"

    Hey you know what else doesn't feel like rewards? EARNING THE SAME SHIT EACH GOD DAMNED EXPANSION.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by druvirus View Post
    But it does make sense. And the zones ARE designed to be flown over. Blizzard isn't against flying, .. they're just against flying when it gives you a clear shortcut path right away when an expansion hits. Content will be "relevant" when 6.1 hits, to an extent, if 5.1 is any other indicator. And not just to "people who are past them", .. as my guess is you'll still have to be level 100 to get flying, once 6.1 hits, if Pandaria is any indicator.

    When 5.1 came out, most players who kept up to date with the game were max level and had at least traveled into all the new areas (although not necessarily done all the quests). In this sense, .. yeah, a lot of the content was irrelevant. Questing in Jade Forest was irrelevant to me at level 90, just as the beginner area of Draenor will be irrelevant to me at 100. If you're level 95 when patch 6.1 hits? You'll probably have to wait until you're 100 .. and by that point a lot of the content you can now fly around in will be irrelevant, too.
    So they unlock flying once we no longer need to visit a zone, but only if we do some kind of patch-spanning chain even on our dedicated healer alts, eh? That sounds like a lot of fun. See if you can guess whether I'm being sarcastic or not.
  1. ApeDosMil's Avatar
    After reading Wowinsider's Know Your Lore (Tinfoil hat edition) on this Karazhan restoration, I am really excited to see what Kara has to do with WoD. Karazhan's got some 'splaining to do.
  1. Apollet's Avatar
    Paladin Tank = stunning!
  1. xact4's Avatar
    This is my prediction.

    This expansions end boss: Sargeras-possessed Medivh. He obtains information from us (or future NPCs that come with us into the portal) enabling him to avoid mistakes made in the past and he is able to avoid death at the hands of his apprentice and Lothar. Thus death by large groups of heroes is necessary.

    Next expansion after WoD: Sargeras-Medivh was somehow able to communicate via the new Dark Portal with our timelines Sargeras, he now knows some kind of something that gives him a way to get at us. Srs business legion invasion of Azeroth. In an epic pre expansion patch event the likes of which have been missing since the pre WotLK zombie apocalypse; the world burns. All hope is lost. Who will save us? -=Bolvar and his scourge=- /heavy metal guitar solo.

    Then again I may be totally messed up on the timeline and inside the portal Medivh is already dead or not even close to dead yet.

    Also that cosplay... at first I'm impressed. But something about having a whole facebook page dedicated to you doing cosplay makes it seem significantly less impressive to me.
  1. Spotnick's Avatar
    Must say the guy who went as a training dummy is genius
  1. Somarlane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Jakins View Post
    "Will druid forms get updated?"
    "lolnope, they were updated recently"

    UHHH BLIZZARD, are you forgetting MOONKIN and TREANT again??

    Moonkins still kick their own flabby ass whenever they walk! They desperately need an update.
    Treant was redone in Cataclysm. The only model still needing touch-up is Moonkin.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Destruktio View Post
    I don't get it.

    Did they clean Karazhan to make it anew, or just to make it less scary for kids below 7?
    It better not have anything to do with the PEGI ratings board raising a stink again, like what happened to Drunken Haze.


    Quote Originally Posted by Volitar View Post
    Blizzard if you take another amazing raid and turn into a shitty 5man again I will be very angry with you.
    Cannot agree enough with that sentiment!


    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Thankfully some genius invented the mute button.
    I find when it comes to raid videos or Blizzcon stuff that doesn't involve a lot of talking, it's just better to mute the thing right off the bat.
  1. Dracbane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mamut View Post
    Im the only one who think this have something to do with the preexpansion patch and not the WoD raid/boss/instance?
    No, I think that part of a quest chain is going to lead us into Kara to retrieve something or try to stop garrosh from getting something to use on the dark portal. Since its labeled as a phase I dont think it will be a new dungeon/raid.
  1. Mukki's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by takeshiIsu View Post
    Four fucking weeks before LFR?
    Thats me out. Fed up with Bliz treating LFR people as second class sub payers.
    LFR players are second-class sub-players. That's the group that cries and whines about everything, and your group is what makes everything get nerfed.

    So actually, you are a problem.
  1. Airwaves's Avatar
    Who ever made those Cosplay videos had one dam expensive camera.
  1. DechCJC's Avatar
    The hell do they have to remove stuff from Kara from? Albeit it's only a few small things, but I swear to God if they revamp Karazhan and it's another Wailing Caverns issue where they literally cut off 3/4 of it, gonna be pissed. If they revamp it I want the same layout, I do not wanna lose the opportunity to explore the old Kara D:
  1. Airwaves's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mukki View Post
    LFR players are second-class sub-players. That's the group that cries and whines about everything, and your group is what makes everything get nerfed.

    So actually, you are a problem.
    So they nerf normal and heroic bosses because of LFR player even though 99% of them never touch normal/heroic? Fucking please. They nerf content because people hit a brick wall. It has nothing to do with LFR.

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