MMO-Champion - Warlock Solo - Immerseus 10 Normal, BossesKilled Addon, Blue Tweets, DLC #417
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Warlock Solo - Immerseus 10 Normal
Today we are taking a look at clever use of boss mechanics that allow warlocks to solo Immerseus.



Addon - BossesKilled
The BossesKilled addon is a nice addition to the Raid Finder and Flex Raid UI that quickly shows you how many bosses you have killed in each wing, without having to select each one to check. Clicking a button will select that wing and the buttons will highlight if you are queued for that wing.



Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Character / Items
Is your intent for hybrids to have to carry spare gear or can we get a glyph or something that makes armor/spirit boost dps?
Less extra gear than you do today for sure. (Source)

In Warlords of Draenor, are crafted items likely to be able to acquire the bonus stats/socket?
Considering that just so they can compete. (Source)

A little confused what tanks will gear for on normal items? Mastery/Haste?
Yes, and even crit and other stats. (Source)

I'm assuming gems and enchants will still have spirit options, even though we're paring down. Correct?
Gems, yes. Still debating exact enchanting mechanics. (Source)

you can literally double your dps from one pull to another with different trinket rng right now. Not fun.
That's all a problem with the pull though. Otherwise RNG variance evens out over the course of a fight. (Source)
We want to make the "line up all CDs do do 50% of your DPS in the first 10 sec" thing go away. (Source)
I feel like Stormlash, Skull Banner and Prepot are huge contributors. Would be ok with all of them disappearing.
Except for prepot, none of the CDs offend us alone. It's the synergistic effect that is out of control. (Source)
Yet rules about X not working while Y is active can also be annoying, so it's not a simple fix. (Source)
Sure it is! Just don't add so many cooldowns to the game! If you see two spells too similar on 1 class, axe one
That pitch would mean no Recklessness for Fury or GoaK for Ret. Think there would be no outrage? (Source)

Shouldn't DPS roles in raid be rewarded for following trinket procs? I default UI still and have no problems being in top 98%+
Yeah, totally. That's the point of having them proc. The pendulum just swung too far the other way. (Source)

and all trinkets/CDs on the pull is fun/interesting, not having anything proc in the opener is boring and lowers skillcap.
Again, disagree that it's skillful. It might be fun to see big numbers but it's frustrating when you don't get the big numbers. (Source)
We then get pressure to basically insure that you get the big numbers, at which point pulling them off isn't exciting any longer. (Source)
Fixing things like snapshotting and less "on the pull" emphasis can keep it exciting without failure being debilitating. (Source)

PvE
Possible to give pets 15% exp/remove "always behind" in pet AI? Causes many issues that this easily solves
We don't really want pets standing on top of tanks. (Source)

Not sure right person to ask, but will there be any change about asia's different lockout and ilvl things in WoD?
Our hope is Asia can use the same model now. It will support multiple raid lockouts, which the current system does. (Source)

So is 1 in 50 players having their guilds merge/disband acceptable casualties? A "courageous" idea
That argument is an easy one to swing around. There are players who liked downranking or spell components. (Source)
But sometimes the game needs to change for the good of the game as as whole, even if individual players don't agree. (Source)

I'm confused on how loot lockouts will work. do normal, heroic and mythic all share a loot lockout?
No. A loot lockout only applies to one difficulty level. Mythic works mostly like heroic today. (Source)

Cant you keep difficulties same as now, adding Mythic on top of it? People wont careas much at that level is all about progres
It is possible to have too many difficulty levels. Aren't you asking for a 7th? (Source)

But do you PREFER to let them decide that? It's often 1 person thinking for the group, w/o consulting them.
That seems like a social issue if you mistrust your guild or pug. (Source)
Even pugs need to have some teeth, or they are just back to LFR's level of no responsibility for anyone. (Source)

Misc
You overuse "depth" like players overuse "clunky."
I'm a former scientist, so I try to use words precisely. "Depth" to me means that there is more going on than first appears. (Source)
That's a useful feature of game design because it plays into easy to learn / difficult to master. (Source)
The problem with "clunky" is many players just use it to mean "I don't like this," which lacks precision. (Source)
Our original, internal use of clunky, which likely spilled out onto the forums, had a precise meaning. (Source)
We originally used "clunky" to mean something that was unintuitive and required extraneous steps to achieve. (Source)
An example could be old Berserker Rage for a tank -- stance dance out of Defensive, break the fear, stance dance back. (Source)

Yes, I agree, swing the nerfbat much much harder at removing cooldowns with dumb visuals :P
Thinking something like GoAK for Prot, wings for Ret, Divine Favor with a better visual for Holy. (Source)
I like it. Guardians should "guard" after all. Does that change Divine Favor mechanically for Holy at all?
I don't know. It was raw idea more than a design. (Source)

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This article was originally published in forum thread: Warlock Solo - Immerseus 10 Normal, BossesKilled Addon, Blue Tweets, DLC #417 started by chaud View original post
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  1. F-Minus's Avatar
    If people think soloing current content is so problematic, Blizzard should just get rid of the massive self healing of anything but the healers and the problem will be fixed. I have no problem with soloing, but clearly the self healing is out of hand.
  1. EdwardMx's Avatar
    i like the music !
  1. N-aix's Avatar
    Welp time to solo it myself BRB
  1. lockedout's Avatar
    Ahh, so that's how you get bindings.
  1. Morningsan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Can hunters do it? We have no ranged pets, ours would have to stand in melee and get hit in the face by the boss.

    Unless it's one of those weird hitbox bosses where you can stand outside of melee range (of the boss) and sitll hit him from melee.
    Yes all classes with pets can do it (Frost mage, Lock, Hunter and DK, but it wil take ages as dk since all you can do is ranged attacks), just make sure your pet makes the first hit and then move it so it wont stand in melee range. But I wouldnt call this clever use of game mechanics, its more of an exploit since you simply removes the possibility of the boss to do melee attacks and you remove the enrage timer.
  1. britishbubba's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Can hunters do it? We have no ranged pets, ours would have to stand in melee and get hit in the face by the boss.

    Unless it's one of those weird hitbox bosses where you can stand outside of melee range (of the boss) and sitll hit him from melee.
    I would assume it'd be possible for any class to solo a boss that roots its self in place (durumu, ji'kun, immerseus etc) as long as they have some way of dealing with the mechanics they do when you're out of reach. Ji'kun spams quills if there's no one in melee, Durumu spams "gaze" (50% weapon dmg ranged attack on entire raid), Sha of fear and pride spam reaching attack... Immerseus just continues to do the same thing he always does, and that makes it a much more trivial boss to solo. There's in theory very little healing you actually have to do to be able to kill him as you can avoid swirl, and move out of the sha puddles.

    So yeah, you could do it as a hunter. Just put it on passive, and put it outside melee range, but closer to the boss than you and it'll soak the breaths. You'll just do a little less damage is all.

    Immerseus is weird for a rooted boss, every other boss this expac that roots themselves in place has something they do if no one is in melee... Elegon, vizier, sha of fear, ji'kun, durumu, megera, phase 2 ra-den, Sha of Pride. Every one of those will make you heal through something if you're not in range (or in elegon's case he'll yank you to him). Immerseus is just like "hurrrrrr i'll breath you every 30 seconds and put puddles on the ground".
  1. Mionelol's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by britishbubba View Post
    I would assume it'd be possible for any class to solo a boss that roots its self in place (durumu, ji'kun, immerseus etc) as long as they have some way of dealing with the mechanics they do when you're out of reach. Ji'kun spams quills if there's no one in melee, Durumu spams "gaze" (50% weapon dmg ranged attack on entire raid), Sha of fear and pride spam reaching attack... Immerseus just continues to do the same thing he always does, and that makes it a much more trivial boss to solo. There's in theory very little healing you actually have to do to be able to kill him as you can avoid swirl, and move out of the sha puddles.

    So yeah, you could do it as a hunter. Just put it on passive, and put it outside melee range, but closer to the boss than you and it'll soak the breaths. You'll just do a little less damage is all.

    Immerseus is weird for a rooted boss, every other boss this expac that roots themselves in place has something they do if no one is in melee... Elegon, vizier, sha of fear, ji'kun, durumu, megera, phase 2 ra-den, Sha of Pride. Every one of those will make you heal through something if you're not in range (or in elegon's case he'll yank you to him). Immerseus is just like "hurrrrrr i'll breath you every 30 seconds and put puddles on the ground".
    He does spam Corrosive Blast on the closest target (not just every 30s) every 1-2 seconds. For some reason the pets are completely immune to it though (rather than 90% reduction), and for some reason he doesn't target the highest aggro unit but the closest instead (but he does target the highest aggro target if the pet is in melee, which makes it even weirder)
  1. britishbubba's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mionelol View Post
    He does spam Corrosive Blast on the closest target (not just every 30s) every 1-2 seconds. For some reason the pets are completely immune to it though (rather than 90% reduction), and for some reason he doesn't target the highest aggro unit but the closest instead (but he does target the highest aggro target if the pet is in melee, which makes it even weirder)
    oh. I wasn't watching the video that closely then :<

    I'm gunna go with pet op.
  1. Dracbane's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ambushu View Post
    Am I the only one thinking how fucking bullshit this is? If you have a class like a warlock soloing current content, then IMO, blizz is doing it wrong. Back in Wrath and the previous expansions, this was IMPOSSIBLE to do.
    It has never been impossible. There is always someone soloing current content raids. Either by cleaver mechanic usage or flaws in the mechanics(such as pets being immune to the debuffs and such). Mages were able to solo all of Naxx during the start of LK by spell stealing the bone shield buff from the DKs there and just dragging one around with them to keep the buff refreshed. Blizz ended up making that spell immune to spell steal to fix it because it was such a damn powerful spell to begin with.
  1. Inveracity's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by nuls View Post
    His armory link:

    -Won't let me copy his armory link, GG forums-

    Goblin Warlock ilvl 576
    That's what I was afraid of! Nowhere close to his item level.
  1. Eliot123's Avatar
    Random question - what is the name of the addon that counts down the buff duration in the video? Is that WeakAuras?
  1. zrankfappa's Avatar
    Regarding the addon ... if you have a lot of alts and you want to track what they have and havent done, then try savedinstances (http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/saved_instances)
  1. amiolas's Avatar
    Am I missing something on the solo video? How is he soaking up the damage from the splashes when the sha oozes hit the middle?
  1. Zstr's Avatar
    what this exploit doing on front page, fml...
  1. mekanik's Avatar
    Tried this Immerseus myself today. Once the pet is set up its pretty simple. The enrage just makes the odd thing that hits you hurt a bit more than normal.

    Careful positioning and patience and its not too bad. Took a resto druid friend with me for loot chance. Gave me symbio, which was useful but not really necessary. Both items dropped were unuseable by either of us Hardest part is keeping enough embers to outheal the damage he does when the small adds reach him at end of each p2.

    Took me 70 minutes. ilvl 564.
  1. Maelstrom51's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by amiolas View Post
    Am I missing something on the solo video? How is he soaking up the damage from the splashes when the sha oozes hit the middle?
    He's a warlock. Warlocks have stupid survivability.
  1. Alayea's Avatar
    I think my former guild master would qualify for the 1,000 day milestone...
  1. muto's Avatar
    I'm pretty sure this is an old video. When he enrages he one shots the raid now. I know this because we were doing the achievement for it a few weeks ago, and he berserked cause we took our jolly time with stopping oozes from reaching the middle.
  1. zoomgpally's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    kinda sad when current tier is being soloed.....
    Kinda sad people are bitching about blood dks soloing current expansion while warlocks solo current tier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airwaves View Post
    That addon is rather pointless. If you can't remember what bosses you have killed you should go see a doctor.
    really? if you got 2 accounts with 11 characters on each... many of those doing older lfrs for legendary quests, all doing soo...
  1. lakhesis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by eschatological View Post
    Can hunters do it? We have no ranged pets, ours would have to stand in melee and get hit in the face by the boss.

    Unless it's one of those weird hitbox bosses where you can stand outside of melee range (of the boss) and sitll hit him from melee.
    Get the glyph that lets you chain MD to your pet, put your pet on passive & standing ~30 yards to your right, kgo. You'll need to remember to keep the MD refreshed constantly, but it should work fine.

    You'd also need to be a bit more careful on the damage, but deterrence will deal with the slime explosions from p2 even better than a lock & your healing talent tier should be enough to clean up any incidental damage.

    Can Windserpents sit at range & spam lightning bolt? If so, that'd make it a bit easier on the MDing.

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