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Warlords of Draenor Survey
A survey was emailed to a small group of players that had a few interesting questions about Warlords of Draenor. (via Rivenwolf)

You can find a poll on a paid boost to 90 on the forum, as well as a poll on the acceptable price, and some discussion of the questions.

  • The survey asked about pricing Warlords of Draenor at $39 or $49 with the boost of a character to level 90.
  • It also asked about pricing Warlords of Draenor at $39 without boost of a character to level 90.
  • Another question asked what a fair price for the level 90 boost would be.
    • Keep in mind that as it was described at Blizzcon, you might be able to purchase a copy of Warlords of Draenor and WoW, then get the free level 90 and transfer that character to your main WoW account, which would allow the purchase of level 90 characters in a roundabout way.
    • The Blizzcon Q&A mentioned that the team has talked about putting a level 90 purchase option in the store.
  • Players were also asked if they had purchased the Annual Pass for Diablo 3 and if they would purchase an annual pass now.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
I would love to see weapon skills removed altogether. This far into the game lore cannot support the selectivity
There are significant gameplay reasons for weapon skills, not just lore. For example, loot distribution, among others. (Source)
Fair enough, will there be at least more options for hybrids then? At the moment boomkin gets stuck with spirit mace.
How do you figure? Moonkins can also use Staves and Daggers, plus the occasional oddity. They have a fair array of options. (Source)
Being pessimistic about options in WoD, Maces seemed geared for healers in MoP, wouldn't mind seeing my moonkin with a sword :P
Swords and Druids don't really mix. (Source)
Aye can understand that, how about seeing more 2H maces that aren't down to even more random chances then usual in WoD?
Not sure what you mean; what does randomness have to do with weapon type? (Source)

Is there interest in letting a spellcast finish instantly if that spell procs while casting or is that another mechanic entirely
Can you give an example of what you're talking about? I don't understand... Do you mean like Lava Surge or Shooting Stars? (Source)
Like Lava Surge, yeah. You start casting Lava Burst (without Lava Surge buff ofc), Lava Surge then procs, Lava Burst fires.
Typically, in that sort of case, we do even better: you finish that cast, then can cast another instant one immediately after. (Source)
We can't always be that generous, due to burst concerns, but we balance around however we choose to do it. (Source)

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Why are WW Monks the ONLY tank hybrid without access to their tank stance/presence/seal? With 0 Passive defenses + leather armor
Sparring was supposed to help there, but I agree that it's a bit lackluster. Want them more like rogues in their tanking abilities. (Source)
(As opposed to an Arms Warrior's, for example) (Source)
Similar problem (but admittedly not as bad) with DPS DKs not getting their taunt ability.
They get Death Grip. We don't want to give DPS DKs two Taunts, and I'm sure that most would prefer the utility of DGrip. (Source)

Will we ever see fist weapons show up on monks while fighting? That or ability to x-mog into something that does show up.
Intentional hard-coded kit is to only use weapons occasionally. Not sure what it'd take to change, even if class peeps wanted to! (Source)
would like another attack to show weapons. Maybe a talent choice.
Fist weapons specifically, we want to show more. We're working on that, but no promises when we'll get to do it. (Source)
Would love a glyph to display weapons in all Monk attacks (Tiger Palm -> Tiger Strike etc).
I want a glyph that lets my hunter throw buzzsaws instead of nelf shuriken. Wait. Why didn't I do that?! (Source)

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)
Any chance on HPriest mastery being relooked at for WoD? Maybe turn all the overheals from it into something?
Echo of Light us something we balance assuming it's going to be more overheal than average. More of regen than healing in design. (Source)
It's not really a choice when it maths out to be 25% or less of the value of other secondaries in typical 25H.
That only sounds accurate when significantly overhealing, and only if your goal is topping the healing meters. (Source)
If you're not overhealing, and your goal is minimizing deaths, mastery can work well. (Source)
And when in the last 3 expacs has there not been significant overhealing most of the time even progression?
I'm referring to using more healers than you need. Doing so results in RShams looking weak, and Discs strong. (Source)

Hide gloves and shoulders, will it be available in WoD or maybe a cosmetic item to make them invisible?
out of curiosity, why would you want to hide those specific items? (Source)

Is there anyway we can get a "hide weapon enchant" option ever put into the game? They kinda destroy my xmog half the time
It's been tossed around. We've floated the idea of enchant xmog too. But don't want to devalue the enchant either. (Source)

will there ever be a "show shoulder" button in the interface options like there is for cloak and helm?
we've been talking a lot about this lately, would love to implement a more robust show/hide system for customization (Source)

Warlords of Draenor Stats
You number-squished down to Wrath-ish levels; why not go to Classic or lower, more room for expansion?
We are. 1-60 was linear, 60-90 exponential. We're extending that linear climb higher (still deciding where, likely to 85). (Source)

Haste only feels good to classes that truly benefit from it though. Can it be +Amp instead? Anything else really.
"Classes that truly benefit from Haste" means... Everyone except Warriors. (And we're going to fix that.) (Source)

Question: How is Haste going to interact with DoTs in Warlords if they're dynamic? Can't add bonus ticks on the fly, right?
Duration doesn't change with haste; no new ticks. Time until next tick recalculated on each tick. (Source)
Err, clarification: no new whole ticks needed to be added/removed. Partial ticks at the end are used to make it smooth. (Source)

... Also, semi-related Q: why does the caster haste buff give spell haste instead of casting speed (like the melee one does)?
Related to both of these questions, we're planning to try to improve the simplicity of the various haste and haste-like effects. (Source)

because haste is only valuable up to a point and then falls behind. feels limiting when u waste so much haste after GCD cap
Intended for stats to be close in value. Going to work on GCD capping issues in WoD. (Source)
How much do you think removing reforging and increasing # of secondary stats will help w/GCD cap issues? More need to be done?
It may help some; stats will be more spread out on average. Its impact is likely to vary significantly by spec. (Source)
Lowering it would have weird effects. The more buttons you press, the more internet latency hurts you.
Yeah, we try not to go below 1sec GCDs in all but the most extreme circumstances. Hurts high latency players. (Source)

Providing more rewards for "undesirable" battlegrounds could work. Interesting idea. (Source)

Does PvP power boost my healing spells when I'm healing at world bosses? Does it count as outdoors healing?
Where it works would follow the same rules as now (which is it would work in the outdoor world). (Source)

I'm guessing most teams had 3 members and now lots of ppl play with more than 2 partners...This makes it alot easier to climb the ladders on multiple chars...
# of players captures more people that played very few games in a way # of teams did not. (Source)
The number of people that play a handful of games is quite high. Totally different problem though (Source)
So basicly it's a 'fake' enormous increase in participation, sort of. That fix should be fine.
The participation number I quoted (+25%) is based on number of WoW accounts that have done arena. (Source)
The # of gladiators increase is due to how things changed with teams. (Source)
I know players use glad count as an indicator for participation, but 5.4 changed that metric. (Source)

but don't titles require players to have more than 50 games won in that bracket?
Yes receiving a title has that requirement. Being considered a "participant" doesn't. (Source)

Instead of everyone counting towards the % towards titles how about people above 1000 rating count to that % only? Thoughts? =)
It will be something along those lines. Will announce the rating after more analysis. 1000 is a good guess ;-) but no promise. (Source)

Any update to let us know if anything will change about arena title cut-offs?Or is % the same despite insanely low cut-offs?
You can expect the number of Gladiators to be in the same ballpark as before taking into account 3v3 participation is up +25% (Source)
When you mean before, you surely mean last season before, not TBC before when PvP was enjoyed by more players than now.
I remember people complaining in TBC. I remember people complaining in Wrath. I remember people complaining in Cata. (Source)
We will use a minimum rating for a player to count against the pool when calculating titles. More info towards end of season. (Source)
This is stupid. That could potentially decrease participation, why change something that has always been like that.
It was based on # of arena teams not # of players. This is the first season with no teams. There is no precedent. (Source)

10 Death Knight Heroic Throne of Thunder
This time around 10 Death Knights were able to clear Heroic Throne of Thunder. It will be interesting to see how well they fare against current content when raids are cross realm in Warlords of Draenor!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Warlords of Draenor Level 90 Boost Survey, Blue Tweets, 10 Death Knight Heroic ToT started by chaud View original post
Comments 72 Comments
  1. ThirdWizard's Avatar
    There's a lot of people not understanding one thing about the free level 90 boost in the expansion.

    It would be possible to do the following:
    - Buy WoW battle chest + expansions
    - Create new account
    - Boost to 90
    - Link accounts
    - Repeat for infinite level 90s

    So there's no keeping people from buying level 90s. They're just making it less convoluted.
  1. Korgesh's Avatar
    $39 no boost to 90. Delete useless quest (not questing at all just the filler/keep busy ones for xp ones). make monsters tougher, but increase experience reward greatly.

    And come on show the new player models! You guys said this new year! I want it like today lol.
  1. Bullettime's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    If they start selling characters in the store I'm out. It's bad enough content that used to be available in game is now in the store with no option to obtain it in game. I'm thinking GC was smart, got off that sinking ship.
    Technically already could with the free boost with each copy of WoD by buying an extra copy for $40 and attaching it to your account.

    It's like people who bitch about the XP boost in the Asian store if it ever came to NA/EU and completely forget about RAF which already allows you to pay for an XP boost for upwards of 3 months, albeit for more hassle.
  1. Xtortion's Avatar
    Just to clarify a couple things, the free boost with the xpac is aimed at returning players (vanilla/bc/wotlk and a lesser extent cata). The mmo champ post about different pricing options is a survey, it's not implemented. People are confusing it as if it's 100% going live.
  1. Nirosu's Avatar
    Honestly the free boost should not cost extra and shouldnt be a separate thing. The battle chest can be fairly reliable gotten at 5 dollars then you have MoP at 10 current but normally 40 which with WoD it'll be like say 15. Then you have WoD which should be 40. That is roughly 60 dollars to get a WoW account a boost to 90 for that WoW account. So you link that account to your Bnet account and now you pay an extra 25 dollars to get the character on your main WoW account. That comes out to 85 dollars for a fresh lvl 90 character. Honestly that is fine. If blizzard wants to put on the store a buy a lvl 90 character for say 70 dollars I think that is alright, but don't inflate the price of an expansion for no reason when we are getting baseline less aka no new race or class.
  1. Nienor's Avatar
    honestly there shouldnt be such a think as a boost. not free and certainly not payed either.
  1. RickJamesLich's Avatar
    Wow sad to see blizz is actually encouraging stuff like selling 90's now lol. I miss the days when the game had ethics that they would adhere to.
  1. nekobaka's Avatar
    Some gear scaling to be done to events along with updated rewards. Perhaps add some scenario format events and even large scale raid sized scenarios with some cheerful fun effects rather than fully serious.
  1. Kektonic's Avatar
    Random idiot: "WTF this game sucks Blizzard never asks for our input!"
    Blizzard:"What do you think about X?"
    Random idiot:"WTF piss off you greedy fucks!"

    Never change, internet. Never change.
  1. Moradim's Avatar
    testing the waters I guess.

    admittedly, levelling can be boring if you have a max level character. but still, you should have to go through it like everyone else. last thing we need is a bunch of new 90s who dont know how to play at all.

    remember DK tanks in outland? or timeless isle geared people in siege? convenience has its consequences on the rest of the game.
  1. matovkin's Avatar
    It not world first! . The Russian DK made it the first)

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    7 dk vs Soo Normal
  1. Kanegasi's Avatar
    Did you really have to set up the DK video to autoplay? It's completely ignoring my YouTube extension's settings. It's getting really annoying having that damn music play every time I open MMO-C (even though the music is awesome).

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