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Level 90 Boost on the PTR
The Level 90 Boost process is now enabled on the PTR for testing, but it appears the final step of the process isn't working yet.




Garrosh Heirlooms and Bonus Rolls
Many players have asked about if it is possible to get a heirloom from a bonus roll, but @olandgren let us know that you won't get heirlooms from a bonus roll.



Dampening Duration Change
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
After some additional discussion, we've decided to make this change (5 minute Dampening) only apply in the 2v2 bracket. Dampening will remain at 10 minutes in 3v3 and 5v5 arenas.

Lower Level Battleground Balance
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I had originally written here how World of Warcraft is a really big game, and while we know there are a lot of different types of activities outside of max-level content that people enjoy, we're not always going to be able to focus on each of them all of time. But it wasn't written particularly well and I feel like my points were probably fairly obvious to everyone.

Anyway, in short: we will be address some low-level PvP balance in Warlords.

First off it's worth noting the item squish. While individual brackets might not see a huge change, certainly the power curve between levels will be a smoother one. It'll have a bigger impact on world PvP as it'll be more like it was in vanilla, and relative power between characters won't see these dramatic swings. Back in the day even if you were 10, 20 or even 30 levels lower than someone else, you still had some shot at getting away, if not actually killing them. Of course as people start gearing up again that disparity will grow in the outdoor world, but it should be fun to get back to a smoother character power curve, and it'll at least always hold true for sub level-100 gank attempts.

We recognize that low-level PvP balance just hasn't gotten the attention it needs, and that's largely due to us having to focus our attention on content that the majority of players focus their attention (e.g. max level). In Warlords we're going to be doing a bit of ability shuffling (read: deleting) which is going to result in the need to smooth out the ability-acquisition pacing (when you get a new ability and at what level), and we'll also be taking a pass on low-level balance at the same time. It's difficult because of the spread of people across all levels and ensuring every ability of every spec at any one particular level vs. another character/level/spec of another level have parity. Low level brackets just inherently bring a measure of un-balance with them due to the possible level difference, which is necessary to ensure they can fill up with enough players. Our goal is primarily to smooth out the outlying abilities - and this is hand-in-hand with the item squish - to ensure the base damage of all the abilities before scaling is appropriate. There are just some obvious tuning problems right now that we'll take care of, and then as much finer tuning as we can manage. We'll be looking for feedback during beta.

I thought base damage was being abolished entirely, in favor of pure scaling. At least this was what I have heard elsewhere many times before this.
There has to be something to scale from.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Character / Items
Will Legendary Cloaks be relevant in WoD? I hope so, I'm a little late to the party and don't want to get rid of it.
Legendary cloaks will not stay relevant in WoD. You still have time to get plenty of use out of it. (Celestalon)
This makes me a sad panda.
Think about what it would do during WoD. It would feel terrible to need to go back and do MoP raids in order to get them. (Celestalon)

Art
can you elaborate on these reasons please?some really dislike fist weapons for the same reason as people hating guns.
Bow/gun thing was based 100% on audio issues (I know, weird "solution"), not visual/aesthetics. (Dave_Maldo)

Any chance of seeing strength fist weapons? My warrior would prefer to strap spikes to his fists and punch people.
That would be awesome indeed. (Dave_Maldo)

The item for Hunters pets Kibler's Bits should last alot longer than a mere 5 minutes. Thank you!
There was a push to keep class pet sizes "reasonable" (Monstrous Bite T_T) but 5 mins DOES seems short. Will try to look into! (Dave_Maldo)

I know lots of mages who would give their mouse arm for the broom to be permanent.
Was discussed for Enchanting once or twice, but we're good w/ where it is, for now! (Dave_Maldo)

Any chance of Brazilian Carnival become a world event, with music and allegorical cars to show off each race of the game?
That was proposed back when we were still making new, full-blown holiday events (Brewfest etc.). Who knows; maybe one day! (Dave_Maldo)

is there any chances for adding "White" items become transmogrifiable and even legendaries like illidan's blades?
Very unlikely for the former; it's how many items they don't want unlocked are locked. Less so for the latter. (Dave_Maldo)

out of interest, why? What do you or we gain by this lockout mechanism for white items? struggling to think of any.
The debate revolves around preserving a certain look & feel in the world/player pop for "real" gear (vs fun temp costume). (Dave_Maldo)

Any chance for actual spectacles, such as the ones Lord Crowley wears, to be added to the game? As a transmog item maybe?
Those totally SHOULD have been in the game by now, yeah. We even discussed SFK or on the shore or... anyhow, yes. Yes. (Dave_Maldo)

Will we ever be able to dye our gear? This is something I've wanted since we got transmorgryph.
Maybe one day? Not planned for anytime soon though, sorry. (Dave_Maldo)

Old vid, but still applies. -PLEASE- look into it, it has been years now.Iirc noggen scale down now too.
Art mods wep sizes by type, both in-hand & while sheathed, on a per race/gender basis in order to handle a HUGE range of assets. (Dave_Maldo)
Art does this to get weps in-hand as big as possible while still fitting theme and not creating terrible sheathed clipping issues. (Dave_Maldo)

Any chance of a moving sun and real-time shadows?
The tech peeps love working on stuff like that when performance permits. Maybe one day! (Dave_Maldo)

With the new models in WoD, will it mean the end of tabards poking through capes when jumping etc?
It'd be cool. Some clipping (in general) is practically unavoidable but I imagine they'll clean up as much as they can! (Dave_Maldo)

Dark Legacy Comics - #425
DLC #425 has been released!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Heirlooms and Bonus Rolls, Dampening Duration, Low Level BG Balance, Blue Tweets, DLC started by chaud View original post
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  1. Grimbolt's Avatar
    Why dont they just remove all the old zones and force people to pay $10(?) extra if they themselves dislike the leveling process so much that they will offer instant boosts to 90.
  1. Lohe's Avatar
    Having Legendaries work like heirlooms would sort of defeat the purpose of not allowing them for transmog. They don't want everyone running around with all the legendaries like that. Don't get me wrong, it would be awesome, it's just not going to happen.
  1. evansp's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Somebody View Post
    I plainly don't give a shit on this whole free level 90 deal. A lot of people I know at the beginning of MoP were bitching and moaning endlessly about having to level all 9 of their alts to level 90 as well and complaining about how its too much of Blizz to ask of the player to have to do that. Yet now people are coming out of the woodwork and complaining that this is going to turn the game into pay to win and enforce catering to the casual.

    None of that even matters to me, all I know is that philosophy behind the development stands in good reasoning and I'm not going to let anyone else's opinion affect this.

    Leveling from 1-90 is not 70% of the game, if at all, currently, its 10% of the game, when WoD comes out, it'll be 9% of the game. If you want to see numbers, please take a look at your /played time while at level max level and compare it to your times spent at each level while leveling and tell me that, even while added up, your time spent leveling is equal to or greater than your time spent at max level.
    Well said, who gives a shit. I am one of those evil people with disposable income that will by level boosts if I chose to level another alt and I could careless what any of the tin foil hat crowd says.
  1. Cassidin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Pori View Post
    If your going to introduce the ability to re color gear i hope its kept in the "theme" of the game. I remember when you could dye armor in Everquest is was kinda silly and detracted from the overall feel.
    I think they have a problem with introducing recolouring anyway.... LFR/Flex/Normal/Heroic versions of the same gear have different colours so you can see which version it is. How would that work if you could change it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keosen View Post
    No but people have to whine about something you know.
    There is no whineless period in wow.
    Better Wine than Whine anyday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    The main reason I think it's a bad idea is if buying your way to 90 becomes the norm in this game when you roll an alt.. what happens to the 1-90 content? What happens to 1-90 dungeon queues? Let's say 60% of people buy the boost when they start an alt, that means 60% less people are running 1-90 dungeons. What impact will this have on dungeon queues? It's already struggle to find healers and tanks for random dungeons. What will it be like when less people are running them?
    I agree this will make running those dungeons harder..... but that's just like finding people doing Isle of Thunder, or queue times for LFRs apart from current tier. The only reason anyone is in them at all is for legendary quest items most of the time. My point is that this happens even at max level with max level zones. Its just "how it is". So a result of boosting to 90 will mean its harder to stand in a city and queue dungeons to level.... I don't consider this a bad thing tbh, that had to be the most boring way to level in the first place. Either get out there and quest (its still VERY quick) or buy a boost (of course we don't know the price of this yet).
  1. hammel's Avatar
    chaud, on your last screenshot there are the options "On Fire" and "Featured": What is this for?
  1. cuafpr's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by hammel View Post
    chaud, on your last screenshot there are the options "On Fire" and "Featured": What is this for?

    i would guess Featured is new stuff or on special, and on fire would be hot sellers / popular ones at the moment.
  1. rejer13's Avatar
    heirlooms from a bonus roll.
    ofc not. They want you to buy the chars now.
  1. Asur's Avatar
    Well all of my 10 man but myself have heirlooms off garrosh, some have multiple. I feel like I'm getting trolled by blizz.
  1. blckmagic's Avatar
    how does someone not know that it is not won a roll yet? i have the been lucky enough to get 2 weapons on 2 kills but i knew that the BoA weapons are not won on a bonus roll
  1. snuzzle's Avatar
    All I can say is, the "buy a 90" feature had better cost significantly more than a race change or faction change, otherwise they're gonna see a WHOLE mess of people just buying a 90 instead of using those services.
  1. Lycefli's Avatar
    Lower-level BG's are a mess for one reason: Prot warriors. They're practically impossible to stop in the 10-29 brackets when they have a healer for support. And killing the healer? No way jose - they're always working as a team...and teamwork is pretty poor at those levels for most players.

    The main reason I think it's a bad idea is if buying your way to 90 becomes the norm in this game when you roll an alt.. what happens to the 1-90 content? What happens to 1-90 dungeon queues? Let's say 60% of people buy the boost when they start an alt, that means 60% less people are running 1-90 dungeons. What impact will this have on dungeon queues? It's already struggle to find healers and tanks for random dungeons. What will it be like when less people are running them?
    This is of course the ground issue here. On high-pop servers I can see this being a minor issue, but with leveling as fast as it is now with heirlooms...

    I'll just miss the MoP zones I enjoyed & Uldum. Man I love Uldum - but I'm only getting 1~boost max: for a hunter probably. Why you ask? Because...years ago...I had one...almost maxed it out...and then.........
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SodiumChloride View Post
    LOL. Just saw a SusenExpress ad on this very page. You guys at MMO champ need to keep a closer watch on your ad suppliers.
    We don't directly sell most of the ads you see, there are many middlemen between us and them. Please, please, please report them properly so we can get rid of them
  1. Mang's Avatar
    you won't get heirlooms from a bonus roll
    Good to know.
  1. kamuimac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by snuzzle View Post
    All I can say is, the "buy a 90" feature had better cost significantly more than a race change or faction change, otherwise they're gonna see a WHOLE mess of people just buying a 90 instead of using those services.

    and it would be wrong for game exackly how ? eveyrbody is whining how realms are more dead and dead how they are loosign more and more subs and when they implement tool which can bring shitton of people back to game - people are whinign about this . f this . this bost is a brilliant tool and they shoule put it for 10-15$ to repopulate this game and bring subs back to 10 mln -_- and if they loos 1k hardcore whining basement dwellers who the f cares .
  1. vitor210's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbolt View Post
    Why dont they just remove all the old zones and force people to pay $10(?) extra if they themselves dislike the leveling process so much that they will offer instant boosts to 90.


    not sure if trolling or..
  1. DreadNeos's Avatar
    I wonder what item level they will put onto the free 90 for WoD. Or the ones that you may be able to buy, anyone know?
  1. Kuja's Avatar
    Funny how all the tweets say "maybe one day!" but none of those will actually ever make it live, lol. Should just say not likely, or plain not gonna happen, so that people don't get their hopes up.
  1. arcaneshot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    No you're not required but they are an invaluable way of learning how to play your class in a group.

    That's another reason why I dislike this instant level 90 ding idea... you'll have people running WoD dungeons who have no idea how to play their class in a dungeon.
    That happens already. You can't pretend that you aren't running into people in dungeons now that don't know what they're doing.
  1. Yriel's Avatar
    It's funny how all the "damn casuals" crowd suddenly changes sides if it's about something they like.
    "I never liked leveling so buying a lv 90 and skipping the boring leveling is ok but damn LFR and all the free epics, back in vanilla we had to wipe 50 time to get an epic". Really funny.
  1. Warlord Booty's Avatar
    Ok, so, I admit that lowbie BGs aren't balanced, and no PVP should EVER be balanced, as it should always be PRS, but as a disc priest, yeah, NOTHING can kill me 1v1, or... well 4v1. Except, SHIELD SLAM. Which, can one shot me through my bubble. So, yeah, NERF THAT SHIT but also, nerf me. Please. I like being OP, but I'd prefer more of an overall down shift in the OP classes.

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