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Warlords of Draenor - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts
Almost all mounts will work as ground mounts in Warlords of Draenor!



Warlords of Draenor Flying
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I've already said that what we said at BlizzCon still holds true at current. If ongoing development changes this including testing, feedback, and etc, then we'll keep people informed. We are in the midst of development and as with anytime we get into it, we often will change design ideas or implementations from what we originally thought we wanted to do to what we believe will more likely work better. We will continue to discuss our ideas as openly as possible (as Alex did) and keep an eye out on constructive feedback. We will do our utmost to address as many concerns that people may have as possible while still keeping in mind the overall health and objectives we have for the game.

We don't work in stone and design is a very fluid thing. We're going to keep moving forward toward creating fun experiences for as many people as possible. I said this over on Twitter and I'll say it again here- "Sometimes I feel I need to say this, but game design decisions are not personal. They aren't meant to cause personal distress. We do care." We want to make sure that Warlords of Draenor (and the game as a whole) continues to deliver truly great experiences and plenty of fun.

Battle.Net Launcher Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The fact that YOU think I need MY desktop 'cleaned up' or I can't keep it organized is pretty damned infuriating and condescending, quite frankly.
I don't personally care what your desktop looks like or how many icons you have on it, or if you're able or not able to keep track of them; but icons on your desktop has little-to-nothing to do with offering a unified launcher platform. You can have the Battle.net app create a desktop icon for each game still, if that's what you want to click on.

Right now each of our games is started through a launcher. The launchers help ensure games are up to date, offer functionality to launch other versions (beta/PTR/etc.), has some file management tools (repair), provide quick links to helpful resources (support), and helps bring info front and center when starting a game like patch notes, game info, news, etc.

Instead of having separate launchers for each game, which are individually updated and maintained, and each of which also likely having different requirements and specifics for how it works and operates, it makes a lot of sense for us to have a single platform (e.g. launcher) that brings all the games together under a single roof, streamlines our platforms, and provides a single launcher--instead of many of them--to provide the same features those launchers always have, plus more, and additional flexibility to add features into the future.

If you're launching Blizzard games now, it's quite likely you're seeing a launcher, and that's not really any different than seeing the Battle.net desktop app "launcher".

What the heck ever happened to just double clicking the executable and running the game. That doesn't need "improving."
Online games, like World of Warcraft, usually require that everyone playing use the same files and file versions to ensure content parity. If you and I are playing and the information we each hold about the game differs, it becomes exceedingly difficult for the server to reconcile how those differences play out and also how the client perceives those differences. Everyone needs to be playing the same game, essentially. To help try to make that process smoother, a launcher that starts up before the game checks file versions when starting the game. If your files are not current a patch is downloaded and installed. Additionally, we've added functionality for the launcher to download future patch data ahead of time to reduce the time required on patch day to get into the game, as well as the ability to stream game data so that the entire game doesn't need to be downloaded for new players, or those just reinstalling.

World of Warcraft has had a launcher for the purposes of file version verification since at least 2003. The Battle.net desktop app is, for the purposes of this discussion, an updated launcher.

However: I recommend Blizzard create a list of offline games to play specifically during patch downloads.
If you used the launcher you'd have downloaded the patch data well in advance, and wouldn't need to wait.

Just don't make the battle.net app mandatory in the future. I like double clicking the WoW icon from my desktop to launch WoW. Kthxbai.
You can still do that with the Battle.net app. Cya.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvP
is tyrannical gear, for those who like it as x-mog, never to be obtainable again? strange: all other MoP pvp gear is available
It will become available again on a vendor in a future patch. (holinka)

Why the change to feats for PVP titles? Are they going to be permanent now or something?
We've made technical changes to how we deliver rewards and we added a Feat of Strength. Titles are still temporary. (holinka)
IE feats stay, but after a season you lose the title it grants.
Yes you keep the achievement but lose the title. (holinka)
Are the feats permanent, though? Do they stay as 'proof' of your accomplishment for the season? Or gone in S16.
You will always have the achievement that says "Season 14" (holinka)

season 15? .............15.......I've been playing this game for too long.
Yeah, we have been talking about that. The numbers are getting high enough that players are often confused about what season it is. (holinka)

So if we're getting 3 new world bosses, which are dropping the PvP gear?
We're still sorting that out. A lot of things are going to be different. (holinka)
Also keep in mind there were multiple world bosses at MoP launch as well. (holinka)
Should be a chest in a FFA zone somewhere with PvP item in it with a long respawn time.(wtbgurubashi)
Agree it would be fun to so more of this sort of thing (holinka)
By "FFA" you mean "come with the most friends so you can solo loot the chest," right?
World PvP, it can be pretty mean. (holinka)

any plans for fixing Wintergrasp and Tol Barad for Warlords?
Not at this point. The best thing to do would be convert them to battlegrounds, but it requires significant work. (holinka)

Future
What happened to expanding the Darkmoon Faire? All those unused tents depress me....
Me too. (Dave_Maldo)
Any plans?
Yes. But my purple octopus monster hat-dropping world boss didn't make it in yet, either, so who knows when. (Dave_Maldo)

So tabards... Are they likely to get a tab? If not, can Scarlet Tabard be added to the vendor for my other toons?
Maybe! And I believe the vendor only covers achievement/perma-lost tabards, not bought or mob-dropped (Heroic Harlan has it). (Dave_Maldo)

PvP Tournament This Weekend
PvP Live is holding a tournament this weekend, starting at 2PM EST / 11 AM PST on Saturday and 12:30 PM EST / 9:30 AM PST on Sunday. Eight teams are competing in a double elimination tournament casted by Azael and Vhell. You can watch the games on Twitch.



TCG Art Update
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This article was originally published in forum thread: WoD - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts, Launcher Feedback, Blue Tweets, TCG Art started by chaud View original post
Comments 137 Comments
  1. Yig's Avatar
    Ground mounts without ground animations always just hover. There is no "logic" issue. They fucking float, problem solved.
  1. Eruanne's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Exerus View Post
    Wow Bashiok seems kinda hostile with the Battle.net app replies. I get that he has to deal with a bunch of idiots all day but who pissed him off?
    You answered your own question. The idiots he has to deal with all day. And there's a lot more of them than not in the playerbase these days.
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    Ground mounts without ground animations always just hover. There is no "logic" issue. They fucking float, problem solved.
    Whatever floats yer mount, eh?
  1. Wubby's Avatar
    It's going to look rather stupid seeing some of these mounts in battlegrounds.

    I don't give two craps about Tol Barad but I'd love Wintergrasp being made into a proper BG. I loved running that back in Wrath and would like to see it as a 40 vs 40 BG or something.
  1. Dreadwraith's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    Ground mounts without ground animations always just hover. There is no "logic" issue. They fucking float, problem solved.
    this, jesus christ. It's like the majority of the people here are incapable of thinking without spewing retarded comment- Oh wait MMOC forums.

    I, for one am happy I'll be able to use my Mims Heads in Warlords.
  1. ThePlanckEnergy's Avatar
    The b.net app launcher can force you into having to download mini patches to function that it often won't initiate, or will begin downloading a major patch with no way to turn it off (thus causing some people to lag in-game with no recourse other than shutting off the app and manually launching the game).

    I don't mind using it. I use it most of the time. But I really, really do not want to see it as the only way to launch Blizzard games in the future. You should always be able go in and manually launch (and yes, you CAN launch wow without even the wow-specific launcher. You can just boot straight to the login screen. You should always be able to do this).
  1. Frozenbeef's Avatar
    That's good, that was my major turnoff of the no flying idea..in some cases i spent months/ years getting my fav mount, i wasn't looking forward to not being able to use it for like 6+ months...
  1. Zachary's Avatar
    As long as they won't revert the no flying until 6.1 -ideology, I'm fine with this. Please delay flying as long as possible, I want to see people on the ground!
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlanckEnergy View Post
    The b.net app launcher can force you into having to download mini patches to function that it often won't initiate, or will begin downloading a major patch with no way to turn it off (thus causing some people to lag in-game with no recourse other than shutting off the app and manually launching the game).
    There is an option, which is by default activated, that prevents the Launcher from downloading anything while a game is running.
  1. Tenjen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlanckEnergy View Post
    The b.net app launcher can force you into having to download mini patches to function that it often won't initiate, or will begin downloading a major patch with no way to turn it off (thus causing some people to lag in-game with no recourse other than shutting off the app and manually launching the game).

    I don't mind using it. I use it most of the time. But I really, really do not want to see it as the only way to launch Blizzard games in the future. You should always be able go in and manually launch (and yes, you CAN launch wow without even the wow-specific launcher. You can just boot straight to the login screen. You should always be able to do this).
    there are options for that. The old launchers would do that too but it also has that option.
  1. Singularity's Avatar
    Wow, I can't believe people are complaining about the launcher. How does this affect gameplay in any way? Jesus...
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by missamy View Post
    All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts

    Well that is just a stupid idea!
    Ashes of al'ar has no legs!!
    What is stupid is that you can´t figure out that they can hover, same as now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Exerus View Post
    Wow Bashiok seems kinda hostile with the Battle.net app replies. I get that he has to deal with a bunch of idiots all day but who pissed him off?
    He was just responding to the player the way the player talked to him. kthxbai

    Honestly, I would go postal doing his job for a day. ´Hey Blizzard, I want to open my refrigerator with my teeth, I demand that you add padding to your handles because I want to do something stupid´. The app does everything the original ´icon´ does, it just looks different on your desktop
  1. Pull My Finger's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eruanne View Post
    Then don't use your flyers. And it's nonsense how exactly? They do this literally EVERY. SINGLE. EXPANSION. You can't fly in the beginning and then when you reach a certain level or unlock something you can. I highly doubt this will be any different and I don't understand how after almost a decade people still act like this is brand new information.
    As you might have noticed, the whole no-flying discussion has expanded to potentially beyond leveling phase/6.1. Which isn't exactly brand new information either.
  1. Lightfist's Avatar
    Oh. Oh, no.

    Giant dragons everywhere.
  1. Hyde's Avatar
    LOL I'm not buying this expansion.
  1. Pull My Finger's Avatar
    I don't really get the complaint regarding the new launcher - I'm still able to bypass it by using a desktop shortcut to wow.exe as always.
  1. Voyambi's Avatar
    I actually love the new Battle.net launcher...
  1. drglenn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyambi View Post
    I actually love the new Battle.net launcher...
    Yup - me too. It remembers my security credentials and it keeps stuff updated. I don't see the problem at all.
  1. solitude's Avatar
    i want to use my flying mounts to fly not to run ,wakeup if you wana make this new pac longer for more Money find something else for us not delet our options to fly with our mounts .
  1. Kryos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Soooooo phoenix mounts suddenly will sprout legs?
    /logic
    No he will float just above the ground the same way it does if you now move it to the ground:

    http://www.infinite-guild.eu/upload/smfpics/ashes.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothos View Post
    "All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts"
    Well there goes 75% of the argument against No flying in WOD. Hopefully the endless amount of bitching ceases.
    Because most flying mounts look so good with their wings folded. Some look horrible like the Protodrakes (like bats on the ground).

    This is also pretty impractical size-wise:
    https://lh3.ggpht.com/-crqDBdWg9lw/U...to%2Bdrake.jpg

    but in-flight it looks great:
    https://lh3.ggpht.com/-3Pt4EaOO1vw/U....00%252BAM.jpg

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