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Warlords of Draenor - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts
Almost all mounts will work as ground mounts in Warlords of Draenor!



Warlords of Draenor Flying
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I've already said that what we said at BlizzCon still holds true at current. If ongoing development changes this including testing, feedback, and etc, then we'll keep people informed. We are in the midst of development and as with anytime we get into it, we often will change design ideas or implementations from what we originally thought we wanted to do to what we believe will more likely work better. We will continue to discuss our ideas as openly as possible (as Alex did) and keep an eye out on constructive feedback. We will do our utmost to address as many concerns that people may have as possible while still keeping in mind the overall health and objectives we have for the game.

We don't work in stone and design is a very fluid thing. We're going to keep moving forward toward creating fun experiences for as many people as possible. I said this over on Twitter and I'll say it again here- "Sometimes I feel I need to say this, but game design decisions are not personal. They aren't meant to cause personal distress. We do care." We want to make sure that Warlords of Draenor (and the game as a whole) continues to deliver truly great experiences and plenty of fun.

Battle.Net Launcher Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The fact that YOU think I need MY desktop 'cleaned up' or I can't keep it organized is pretty damned infuriating and condescending, quite frankly.
I don't personally care what your desktop looks like or how many icons you have on it, or if you're able or not able to keep track of them; but icons on your desktop has little-to-nothing to do with offering a unified launcher platform. You can have the Battle.net app create a desktop icon for each game still, if that's what you want to click on.

Right now each of our games is started through a launcher. The launchers help ensure games are up to date, offer functionality to launch other versions (beta/PTR/etc.), has some file management tools (repair), provide quick links to helpful resources (support), and helps bring info front and center when starting a game like patch notes, game info, news, etc.

Instead of having separate launchers for each game, which are individually updated and maintained, and each of which also likely having different requirements and specifics for how it works and operates, it makes a lot of sense for us to have a single platform (e.g. launcher) that brings all the games together under a single roof, streamlines our platforms, and provides a single launcher--instead of many of them--to provide the same features those launchers always have, plus more, and additional flexibility to add features into the future.

If you're launching Blizzard games now, it's quite likely you're seeing a launcher, and that's not really any different than seeing the Battle.net desktop app "launcher".

What the heck ever happened to just double clicking the executable and running the game. That doesn't need "improving."
Online games, like World of Warcraft, usually require that everyone playing use the same files and file versions to ensure content parity. If you and I are playing and the information we each hold about the game differs, it becomes exceedingly difficult for the server to reconcile how those differences play out and also how the client perceives those differences. Everyone needs to be playing the same game, essentially. To help try to make that process smoother, a launcher that starts up before the game checks file versions when starting the game. If your files are not current a patch is downloaded and installed. Additionally, we've added functionality for the launcher to download future patch data ahead of time to reduce the time required on patch day to get into the game, as well as the ability to stream game data so that the entire game doesn't need to be downloaded for new players, or those just reinstalling.

World of Warcraft has had a launcher for the purposes of file version verification since at least 2003. The Battle.net desktop app is, for the purposes of this discussion, an updated launcher.

However: I recommend Blizzard create a list of offline games to play specifically during patch downloads.
If you used the launcher you'd have downloaded the patch data well in advance, and wouldn't need to wait.

Just don't make the battle.net app mandatory in the future. I like double clicking the WoW icon from my desktop to launch WoW. Kthxbai.
You can still do that with the Battle.net app. Cya.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvP
is tyrannical gear, for those who like it as x-mog, never to be obtainable again? strange: all other MoP pvp gear is available
It will become available again on a vendor in a future patch. (holinka)

Why the change to feats for PVP titles? Are they going to be permanent now or something?
We've made technical changes to how we deliver rewards and we added a Feat of Strength. Titles are still temporary. (holinka)
IE feats stay, but after a season you lose the title it grants.
Yes you keep the achievement but lose the title. (holinka)
Are the feats permanent, though? Do they stay as 'proof' of your accomplishment for the season? Or gone in S16.
You will always have the achievement that says "Season 14" (holinka)

season 15? .............15.......I've been playing this game for too long.
Yeah, we have been talking about that. The numbers are getting high enough that players are often confused about what season it is. (holinka)

So if we're getting 3 new world bosses, which are dropping the PvP gear?
We're still sorting that out. A lot of things are going to be different. (holinka)
Also keep in mind there were multiple world bosses at MoP launch as well. (holinka)
Should be a chest in a FFA zone somewhere with PvP item in it with a long respawn time.(wtbgurubashi)
Agree it would be fun to so more of this sort of thing (holinka)
By "FFA" you mean "come with the most friends so you can solo loot the chest," right?
World PvP, it can be pretty mean. (holinka)

any plans for fixing Wintergrasp and Tol Barad for Warlords?
Not at this point. The best thing to do would be convert them to battlegrounds, but it requires significant work. (holinka)

Future
What happened to expanding the Darkmoon Faire? All those unused tents depress me....
Me too. (Dave_Maldo)
Any plans?
Yes. But my purple octopus monster hat-dropping world boss didn't make it in yet, either, so who knows when. (Dave_Maldo)

So tabards... Are they likely to get a tab? If not, can Scarlet Tabard be added to the vendor for my other toons?
Maybe! And I believe the vendor only covers achievement/perma-lost tabards, not bought or mob-dropped (Heroic Harlan has it). (Dave_Maldo)

PvP Tournament This Weekend
PvP Live is holding a tournament this weekend, starting at 2PM EST / 11 AM PST on Saturday and 12:30 PM EST / 9:30 AM PST on Sunday. Eight teams are competing in a double elimination tournament casted by Azael and Vhell. You can watch the games on Twitch.



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This article was originally published in forum thread: WoD - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts, Launcher Feedback, Blue Tweets, TCG Art started by chaud View original post
Comments 137 Comments
  1. Chaosweaver's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eruanne View Post
    Then don't use your flyers. And it's nonsense how exactly? They do this literally EVERY. SINGLE. EXPANSION. You can't fly in the beginning and then when you reach a certain level or unlock something you can. I highly doubt this will be any different and I don't understand how after almost a decade people still act like this is brand new information.
    What you completely failed to understand is that they won't allow us to fly even when we reach level 100. They carve out a huge part of the game that actually gave people the chance to move between zones, to farm herbs/mines without having to deal with monsters and terrain. They are just making the game more frustrating and annoying by forcing people to use ground mounts only.

    So don't tell people it's the same because "THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT". If you had any idea about what we are discussing you would know that.
  1. det's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eruanne View Post
    Then don't use your flyers. And it's nonsense how exactly? They do this literally EVERY. SINGLE. EXPANSION. You can't fly in the beginning and then when you reach a certain level or unlock something you can. I highly doubt this will be any different and I don't understand how after almost a decade people still act like this is brand new information.
    Well, they act like that because of the hint that there might be no flying at all. Ofc, the imperative word is "might" and ofc it will only apply to WoW - there is still flying in Azeroth and all.

    But yeah, people like to whine. Like in that example where a poster finds Bashiok hostile about the battle.net app. First of all, the player goes "What the heck etc..." which is already an unpolite start to a conversation. And then it is made clear that you can still have your double clickable button for every game.

    I love that lauchner, but apparently Blizzard foresaw that some like the old way. Both versions can be used and - presto..somebody still whines? I'd be pissed off too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaosweaver View Post
    What you completely failed to understand is that they won't allow us to fly even when we reach level 100. They carve out a huge part of the game that actually gave people the chance to move between zones, to farm herbs/mines without having to deal with monsters and terrain. They are just making the game more frustrating and annoying by forcing people to use ground mounts only.

    So don't tell people it's the same because "THIS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT". If you had any idea about what we are discussing you would know that.
    Wait a second. You can still fly in all other x-pac zones like Azeroth and Pandaria (except TI and IoT) - PLUS, this:

    http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/2...-wod-terrible/

    and this:

    http://media.mmo-champion.com/images...FlightZone.png

    Don't just cherry pick one line, read all the news.
  1. Nathanyel's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Well, they act like that because of the hint that there might be no flying at all. Ofc, the imperative word is "might"
    They probably mean they want to have no flying at all, but only announce it for the first content tier, awaiting feedback from the playerbase. Which this, despite the choice of words, is.
    Let's hope they eventually agree with the majority.
  1. Lilija's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by missamy View Post
    All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts

    Well that is just a stupid idea!
    Ashes of al'ar has no legs!!
    There is a simple explanation: hovering ^^ Kinda like flying but still requires ground
  1. Deepsidedj's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Soooooo phoenix mounts suddenly will sprout legs?

    /logic
    he will fly at low altitude
  1. HalfBakedCake's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaosweaver View Post
    What you completely failed to understand is that they won't allow us to fly even when we reach level 100. They carve out a huge part of the game that actually gave people the chance to move between zones, to farm herbs/mines without having to deal with monsters and terrain. They are just making the game more frustrating and annoying by forcing people to use ground mounts only.

    OH NO! You actually have to fight things instead of flying down and flying away which is the very same reason Blizzard hates flying? Damn, the world really is ending.
  1. Kimiko93's Avatar
    Violet Protodrake on the ground with awkward running animations here i come.
  1. mykro9's Avatar
    I love being able to fly, but if they could make flight paths free, it would solve a lot. You essentially cover all of the map when you level up, so you should be hitting and unlocking all the FP's when you do it. All they need is to make the FP's free, and then I don't mind so much using them. A lot of times I would much rather take an FP and tab out to something else, and come back when I hear the landing sound.

    Also, to change the subject, I am having to put in my password every time, as well as my authenticator. As in if I log into a second account on the same batttle.net account on the same day it makes me do the password and authenticator. This used to be once a week or so, and now it is getting annoying. It appears as though I have everything checked that needs to be checked, whether it be in the launcher options, or on the battle.net site, to <keep me logged in> but I am constantly have to go to my phone to get the code. Any ideas on how to fix this?
  1. darkthunder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Soooooo phoenix mounts suddenly will sprout legs?

    /logic
    "Ground Mount" doesn't need to mean that the mount's feet (or lack thereof) touch the ground. For mounts such as the Phoenix one, you'd simply have it "flying" at ground level. Not ON the ground, but flying slightly above it.
  1. Pull My Finger's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by HalfBakedCake View Post
    OH NO! You actually have to fight things instead of flying down and flying away which is the very same reason Blizzard hates flying? Damn, the world really is ending.
    Stupid post. Blizzard "hates" flying, LOL.
  1. CamdenQ's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    They probably mean they want to have no flying at all, but only announce it for the first content tier, awaiting feedback from the playerbase. Which this, despite the choice of words, is.
    Let's hope they eventually agree with the majority.
    He's not cherrypicking. They've said multiple times that there will be NO FLYING IN DRAENOR until patch 6.1. Read me very carefully: none AT ALL in Draenor. Who cares about flying in Azeroth and other old content if we can't fly to get to get to raids or gather mats? The intent Blizzard said very explicitly is that They'd unlock flying for the new "continent" in 6.1 when New/old Netherstorm or something else gets unlocked, in which flying will be disabled. We can expect every patch to have something like the Sunwell Plateau, Isle of Thunder, and/or Timeless Isle every patch, which will not allow flying until it is no longer current.

    NOW however, Afrasiabi is dropping hints that Blizzard would like to do away with flying altogether if they can. This is a very bad idea in my opinion. Rather than designing the game around a mechanic that they launched with their first expansion, Blizzard prefers, as per their usual, to take the lazy route and just disable it.

    They've always done this with certain things, like the various islands I mentioned, so it should come as no surprise that they want to do this considering even back in BC they seemed to consider flying a mistake.
  1. Chaosweaver's Avatar
    NOW however, Afrasiabi is dropping hints that Blizzard would like to do away with flying altogether if they can. This is a very bad idea in my opinion. Rather than designing the game around a mechanic that they launched with their first expansion, Blizzard prefers, as per their usual, to take the lazy route and just disable it.

    They've always done this with certain things, like the various islands I mentioned, so it should come as no surprise that they want to do this considering even back in BC they seemed to consider flying a mistake.
    That's the thing, they want to remove it and a vast majority of the playerbase don't want it removed. I fear that after 6.1 even after 90% of the community ask them to bring it back, they will just come up with some secret research that people like it and it's better for the game and will remove it entirely. Which will make things ugly that's for sure.
  1. Tenjen's Avatar
    protodrakes are wyverns (no not what blizz calls Wyverns, the actual dragon type of wyvern which has bat-wing structure to allow its use as a limb).

    Thus why they walk like that, unfortuantely we cant have the cool wing hand grabby thing bats do cause it cant match up with the variety of terrains out there. (they do it when in rest though)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZC-qYDNVvc
  1. caelius's Avatar
    *sigh* I really hoped that all those ugly dragons would disappear when WoD launches.
  1. Roxx's Avatar
    You're missing the one important thing - You're all like "We will have to fight monsters and climb around to get herbs / mines and it's such a hassle" blah blah blah.
    Well, I've got one word for you, If you'd have paid any attention at all - Garrisons.
  1. Archiul's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by greyghost View Post
    There are people angry over application launchers and shortcuts? Really?

    Hey, you're into logic, right? Do something for me.

    Get on your phoenix mount in-game. Right now. Then, shoot down to the ground on it. While grounded, move around a bit.

    If you did the experiment correctly, you'll see that your Phoenix hovers above the ground at 100% mount speed. It has always been able to do this, as do the vast majority of other flying mounts. Right now, there are only a few easily toggle-able code flags that prevent some flying mounts from being initially summoned in a non-flying area.
    Oh my god. Thank you. I wanted to say the EXACT same thing after I saw that "post"
  1. aeuhe4yxzhds's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    All mounts already do work as ground mounts in zones where you can mount them. Sure, some don't touch the ground while "walking", but it's not like we didn't already have such hybrid mounts before: the Lorewalker disk/Tailoring carpets, Engineering flying machines (which only have "landing" as a /mountspecial), the Heart of the Aspects, the different types of rockets...
    It's just a matter of enabling you to mount them everywhere (where you can mount at all)
    And some of the current "ground mounts" were quite large, too, so that's not a reason against enabling all mounts either.

    There are more (and more valid) arguments against "No flying even at 100".
    No they dont
  1. stians's Avatar
    Why on earth would anyone complain about the Bnet launcher? Personally I LOVE IT! I can't believe anyone would say something like "I like double clicking the WoW icon from my desktop to launch WoW."
  1. Pull My Finger's Avatar
    Well I guess it's time to remove transmog restrictions and allow people to transmog pink dresses, rolling pins and silly hats because you can't argument that it's disrupting the scenery anymore in a world where people are trotting through Elwynn Forest sitting on the back of an aerial creature of 8 meters wingspan.
  1. Nungamunch's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Soooooo phoenix mounts suddenly will sprout legs?

    /logic
    They will hover like the lorewalker discs.

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