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Warlords of Draenor - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts
Almost all mounts will work as ground mounts in Warlords of Draenor!



Warlords of Draenor Flying
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
I've already said that what we said at BlizzCon still holds true at current. If ongoing development changes this including testing, feedback, and etc, then we'll keep people informed. We are in the midst of development and as with anytime we get into it, we often will change design ideas or implementations from what we originally thought we wanted to do to what we believe will more likely work better. We will continue to discuss our ideas as openly as possible (as Alex did) and keep an eye out on constructive feedback. We will do our utmost to address as many concerns that people may have as possible while still keeping in mind the overall health and objectives we have for the game.

We don't work in stone and design is a very fluid thing. We're going to keep moving forward toward creating fun experiences for as many people as possible. I said this over on Twitter and I'll say it again here- "Sometimes I feel I need to say this, but game design decisions are not personal. They aren't meant to cause personal distress. We do care." We want to make sure that Warlords of Draenor (and the game as a whole) continues to deliver truly great experiences and plenty of fun.

Battle.Net Launcher Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The fact that YOU think I need MY desktop 'cleaned up' or I can't keep it organized is pretty damned infuriating and condescending, quite frankly.
I don't personally care what your desktop looks like or how many icons you have on it, or if you're able or not able to keep track of them; but icons on your desktop has little-to-nothing to do with offering a unified launcher platform. You can have the Battle.net app create a desktop icon for each game still, if that's what you want to click on.

Right now each of our games is started through a launcher. The launchers help ensure games are up to date, offer functionality to launch other versions (beta/PTR/etc.), has some file management tools (repair), provide quick links to helpful resources (support), and helps bring info front and center when starting a game like patch notes, game info, news, etc.

Instead of having separate launchers for each game, which are individually updated and maintained, and each of which also likely having different requirements and specifics for how it works and operates, it makes a lot of sense for us to have a single platform (e.g. launcher) that brings all the games together under a single roof, streamlines our platforms, and provides a single launcher--instead of many of them--to provide the same features those launchers always have, plus more, and additional flexibility to add features into the future.

If you're launching Blizzard games now, it's quite likely you're seeing a launcher, and that's not really any different than seeing the Battle.net desktop app "launcher".

What the heck ever happened to just double clicking the executable and running the game. That doesn't need "improving."
Online games, like World of Warcraft, usually require that everyone playing use the same files and file versions to ensure content parity. If you and I are playing and the information we each hold about the game differs, it becomes exceedingly difficult for the server to reconcile how those differences play out and also how the client perceives those differences. Everyone needs to be playing the same game, essentially. To help try to make that process smoother, a launcher that starts up before the game checks file versions when starting the game. If your files are not current a patch is downloaded and installed. Additionally, we've added functionality for the launcher to download future patch data ahead of time to reduce the time required on patch day to get into the game, as well as the ability to stream game data so that the entire game doesn't need to be downloaded for new players, or those just reinstalling.

World of Warcraft has had a launcher for the purposes of file version verification since at least 2003. The Battle.net desktop app is, for the purposes of this discussion, an updated launcher.

However: I recommend Blizzard create a list of offline games to play specifically during patch downloads.
If you used the launcher you'd have downloaded the patch data well in advance, and wouldn't need to wait.

Just don't make the battle.net app mandatory in the future. I like double clicking the WoW icon from my desktop to launch WoW. Kthxbai.
You can still do that with the Battle.net app. Cya.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvP
is tyrannical gear, for those who like it as x-mog, never to be obtainable again? strange: all other MoP pvp gear is available
It will become available again on a vendor in a future patch. (holinka)

Why the change to feats for PVP titles? Are they going to be permanent now or something?
We've made technical changes to how we deliver rewards and we added a Feat of Strength. Titles are still temporary. (holinka)
IE feats stay, but after a season you lose the title it grants.
Yes you keep the achievement but lose the title. (holinka)
Are the feats permanent, though? Do they stay as 'proof' of your accomplishment for the season? Or gone in S16.
You will always have the achievement that says "Season 14" (holinka)

season 15? .............15.......I've been playing this game for too long.
Yeah, we have been talking about that. The numbers are getting high enough that players are often confused about what season it is. (holinka)

So if we're getting 3 new world bosses, which are dropping the PvP gear?
We're still sorting that out. A lot of things are going to be different. (holinka)
Also keep in mind there were multiple world bosses at MoP launch as well. (holinka)
Should be a chest in a FFA zone somewhere with PvP item in it with a long respawn time.(wtbgurubashi)
Agree it would be fun to so more of this sort of thing (holinka)
By "FFA" you mean "come with the most friends so you can solo loot the chest," right?
World PvP, it can be pretty mean. (holinka)

any plans for fixing Wintergrasp and Tol Barad for Warlords?
Not at this point. The best thing to do would be convert them to battlegrounds, but it requires significant work. (holinka)

Future
What happened to expanding the Darkmoon Faire? All those unused tents depress me....
Me too. (Dave_Maldo)
Any plans?
Yes. But my purple octopus monster hat-dropping world boss didn't make it in yet, either, so who knows when. (Dave_Maldo)

So tabards... Are they likely to get a tab? If not, can Scarlet Tabard be added to the vendor for my other toons?
Maybe! And I believe the vendor only covers achievement/perma-lost tabards, not bought or mob-dropped (Heroic Harlan has it). (Dave_Maldo)

PvP Tournament This Weekend
PvP Live is holding a tournament this weekend, starting at 2PM EST / 11 AM PST on Saturday and 12:30 PM EST / 9:30 AM PST on Sunday. Eight teams are competing in a double elimination tournament casted by Azael and Vhell. You can watch the games on Twitch.



TCG Art Update
Blizzard has updated the TCG art gallery to feature ten new pieces.


This article was originally published in forum thread: WoD - All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts, Launcher Feedback, Blue Tweets, TCG Art started by chaud View original post
Comments 137 Comments
  1. Keile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainArlong View Post
    No, the difference is in MoP and other expansions, when you hit max level, you're allowed to fly. This time, it's no flying until they decide to put it in. They're trying to force everyone to play a certain way. I don't care about scenery, or "adventure", it's a video game, and I want to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible. My opinion is a fact, as World of Warcraft is first and foremost, a video game. Anyone else's opinion that differs is just that, an opinion. You can get your jollies from looking at a digital forest, that doesn't change the fact that WoW is a video game. Flying does not change your gameplay, you just want to take your time, so do so. I don't see why that view has to be shoved down the throats of people who just want to play a video game.

    But what do I care, I won't be paying $50 for an expansion to such an old game.
    Actually your opinion is not a fact, it is an opinion. Here is the actual fact: the game is whatever Blizzard want's it to be. They develop it, not you. And your mentality is what is leading to the downfall of gaming in general: "All I want is to get from A to B as quickly as possible" is hilarious.

    You want the real fact? Ok, here is a real fact:

    Video GAMES by definition are supposed to be entertaining. My definition of entertaining may not be the same as yours. Doesn't make me wrong. I find it actually fun to explore. That's why in games like, say Skyrim, I actually WALK to my destination rather than using fast travel. You find so many places to explore and get lost in. And believe it or not even WoW does stuff like that. Little details you wouldn't have noticed otherwise...getting lost in the zone and just...ENJOYING the atmosphere of it.

    So please, do us all a favor and keep your promise not to buy this expansion, we need less single-minded, self-centered, short-sighted people like you playing. Go back to playing games like Call of Duty where they basically require you to press forward to win with their half-assed on-rails single player modes and their done over and over and over and over again multiplayer modes.
  1. link_991's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocheku View Post
    Whats stopping my phoenix then from taking off and simply FLY?
    Hurr durr no magixz sais no flyin allowed, but you can still hover on yer phoenix off the ground npz

    Makes just as much sense as the whole direction of the story of WoD.
    You can already use things like the rockets, flying carpets, flying machines, and red flying cloud in no-fly zones.
    And the No-fly zones have never made any sense if you start thinking about them as story, except Isle of Thunder.
  1. PacGamer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Keile View Post
    Actually your opinion is not a fact, it is an opinion. Here is the actual fact: the game is whatever Blizzard want's it to be. They develop it, not you. And your mentality is what is leading to the downfall of gaming in general: "All I want is to get from A to B as quickly as possible" is hilarious.

    You want the real fact? Ok, here is a real fact:

    Video GAMES by definition are supposed to be entertaining. My definition of entertaining may not be the same as yours. Doesn't make me wrong. I find it actually fun to explore. That's why in games like, say Skyrim, I actually WALK to my destination rather than using fast travel. You find so many places to explore and get lost in. And believe it or not even WoW does stuff like that. Little details you wouldn't have noticed otherwise...getting lost in the zone and just...ENJOYING the atmosphere of it.

    So please, do us all a favor and keep your promise not to buy this expansion, we need less single-minded, self-centered, short-sighted people like you playing. Go back to playing games like Call of Duty where they basically require you to press forward to win with their half-assed on-rails single player modes and their done over and over and over and over again multiplayer modes.
    I'd like to point out that you used Call of Duty in your insult, which is a product that belongs to Activision Blizzard.
  1. Aelric70's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Theosis View Post
    Flying is something I enjoy most about WoW. It is part of what I pay for. I don't care about those that say I'm a crybaby for wanting to fly.. they pay to do what they want Ill pay to do what I want. WoW is making a very bad decision about this because many people feel as I do.
    You're opinion doesn't matter until you and all the others who share it quit, taking your $14/month with you. Don't let the door hit ya'... the game would be better without a couple million whiners, since most of the concessions that weaken the game were in response to that incessant squealing anyway.

    If there is no vertical content anyway, they can keep flying out of WoD until the 7.0 bridge to the next XPAC for all I care... Hell, it would give something new for people to fool around with in the inevitable 4-6 months between last WoD raid boss being on farm and next xpac, where folks are just tuning up alts and killing time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainArlong View Post
    My opinion is a fact, as World of Warcraft is first and foremost, a video game. Anyone else's opinion that differs is just that, an opinion. You can get your jollies from looking at a digital forest, that doesn't change the fact that WoW is a video game. Flying does not change your gameplay
    Said no player on a PVP Server ever.
    Nor any resource farmers.

    If you want to claim something as fact, you might want to make sure its actually true... but that's just my opinion.
  1. Kathranis's Avatar
    Ugh. Why would anyone complain about the battle.net launcher? It's so much more efficient, since it logs you into battle.net automatically, lets you see which friends are online in which game and on which server, and lets you update or play any of their games from a single window.

    Launching WoW is even quicker through the battle.net launcher (double click icon -> press play -> straight to character select) than with the WoW launcher (double click -> press play -> type in password -> enter authenticator -> character select).

    People will complain about anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorcanna View Post
    Why do they keep adding TCG art pieces? I thought this only happened when new cards came out and they stopped making them already, right? o.O
    There are hundreds of TCG illustrations, and they add like 8 new pieces a week. They'll keep doing it until they're all uploaded.
  1. Bakilorne's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Ugh. Why would anyone complain about the battle.net launcher? It's so much more efficient, since it logs you into battle.net automatically, lets you see which friends are online in which game and on which server, and lets you update or play any of their games from a single window.

    Launching WoW is even quicker through the battle.net launcher (double click icon -> press play -> straight to character select) than with the WoW launcher (double click -> press play -> type in password -> enter authenticator -> character select).

    People will complain about anything.

    At times it will reset all the settings. Some folks don't have it backed up. Easy fix by having a cloud system ;O bwahah!
  1. Vegas82's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelric70 View Post
    You're opinion doesn't matter until you and all the others who share it quit, taking your $14/month with you. Don't let the door hit ya'... the game would be better without a couple million whiners, since most of the concessions that weaken the game were in response to that incessant squealing anyway.

    If there is no vertical content anyway, they can keep flying out of WoD until the 7.0 bridge to the next XPAC for all I care... Hell, it would give something new for people to fool around with in the inevitable 4-6 months between last WoD raid boss being on farm and next xpac, where folks are just tuning up alts and killing time.
    It's funny because one of the reasons they're removing flying is because of whiners... I guess it was OK in that instance because you agreed with them?
  1. Aimee03's Avatar
    am I the only person who didn't skip the ''ALMOST ALL MOUNTS" part?
  1. foxHeart's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aelric70 View Post
    since most of the concessions that weaken the game were in response to that incessant squealing anyway.
    Are you not even capable of blaming Blizzard for their own "concessions?" No, of course not. Let's not blame the company who has total control over their product, let's just blame the "whiners" who are supposedly responsible for a company's alleged bad decisions and put the heat on them instead because their opinion differs from mine.

    Put the blame where it's due. On Blizzard and their desire to make money. Don't cop out and blame it on the community when nobody is pointing a gun to Mike Morhaime's head and forcing him into making the game more profitable, more accessible, and, I'd argue, better. I also actually believe a lot of the "concessions" made have actually improved the game as well as made it more profitable. "Concessions" and poor quality are not mutually exclusive. I also absolutely believe there are lots of people at Blizzard who want to make good games, but above those people are other people who are more profit-oriented and those people are the ones with the power. Convenience and streamlining sell. If anything, blame Blizzard's greed and their lack of commitment to keeping out elements that "weaken the game", don't blame people not wanting to farm entire sets of resist gear and who *gasp* like the idea of flying mounts.
  1. hammercurl's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    Whatever floats yer mount, eh?
    Well the people at blizzard who programs/designs the floating animation will.. you know why ? It's a fuc*ing game, about human, orcs, trolls, pandas etc, riding on fciking rockets and Phoenix mounts. It's not the real world. That's why.

    I am truly amazed that blizzard actually still replies in a fashionable manner. I would have exploded in 360 degrees, dealing with some of theese customers.
  1. slime's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by missamy View Post
    All Mounts Work as Ground Mounts

    Well that is just a stupid idea!
    Ashes of al'ar has no legs!!


    But it looks like it's on fire, and heat rises!
  1. Orissan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kryos View Post
    Because most flying mounts look so good with their wings folded. Some look horrible like the Protodrakes (like bats on the ground).
    Strangely enough, they didn't give bats that animation. It would have been perfect. Ah well.

    As for me, I will stick with my Kor'kron War Wolf thank you very much. I think -most- fliers that actually look good flying have no business on the ground. Besides, there are a lot of nice ground mounts to.
  1. fleshfurnace's Avatar
    People still whining about not being able to fly... It's been that way since the game came out. There was no flying in vanilla at all and some argue those times were the best of the game. Southshore vs. Tarren Mill anyone? I think they are trying to rekindle those old days when ppl actually cared about what they were doing and were down on the ground enjoying it. People get spoiled with something like flying around and they act like babies when you steal their pacifier. Most likely they'll add flying in draenor eventually but it's not like you can't fly in every zone but...

    How can people bitch about a single app holding multiple icons and letting you auto log into your games? It's a convenience to make things easier and even if you only play one game that's still only 1 icon you need. People need to stop looking at blizzard like they are just trying to screw everyone over. Even if it's bad decisions they are trying to do what they feel is the best. Honestly i'm kinda glad they don't listen to all the fans because this game would have probably died a long ago. I'm not pretending to like everything blizzard does especially with expanding the shop, increasing this xpacs cost compared to all previous ones, or the directions they are heading with draenor, but I still like to play wow for what it is. If most of what they said comes true with draenor there will be better times ahead. At this point i just feel bad for healers going through so many changes to start an xpac again like cata.
  1. Rorcanna's Avatar
    And to people saying that flying wasn't around in Vanilla...you're right, it wasn't. But back then, the world was a BIT newer than it is now. Flying WAS around in TBC and WOTLK, the expansions USUALLY hailed as the best AND the ones where sub numbers peaked. We have had flying for WAY longer than we didn't have it.

    Arrogance only takes you so far, most players that enjoy flying will NOT be content with the developers forcing a different way of playing on them. Most people in-game who are not frequenting forums think that we get flying in 6.1 since that is the decision that's been advertised at Blizzcon. Imagine the storm when they realise that Blizzard didn't announce planning for no flying at all in Draenor until waaaaay later, after selling several mounts with trailers hailing them as superduper flyers (the Iron Skyreaver was made in Draenor by the Iron Horde, LOL!) and a CE which was more expensive than before AND had a flyer as mount.
  1. caninepawprints's Avatar
    Some flying mounts are so huge that they'll take up a lot of space and annoy the crap out of people in enclosed places. Especially when the player riding it decides to be a jerk and cover up an NPC, mailbox, etc. It's just adding salt to the wound after taking away flying mounts for the expansion.

    I don't care about not being able to use certain mounts. I care about not being able to fly at all! Once I've gone through the hassle of running around to level up, I want to be done with the ground so I can focus on farming materials and gearing up.

    The level 100 experience better be pretty damn epic or Blizzard is going to lose a TON of subscribers like nothing they've seen before.
  1. DarthMonk79's Avatar
    IF they lose a ton of subscribers it will only be the ones that whine about every little thing. To which I say.... GREAT. Also to those that say its a video game, its a MMORPG. RPG being the main part... its a role playing game, you are supposed to be in the world, not just jumping around from point A to point B and ignoring everything else. As for the jerks..... you get those regardless if you have large flying mounts or not. Just wish they would go ahead and quit too.
  1. Rioo's Avatar
    Some of the mounts I'm okay with, but when I see that golden store dragon mount in BGs and TI it looks so retarded.
  1. Ausr's Avatar
    People are bitching about having to launch a Blizzard game from the unified launcher? Jesus christ, you lazy assholes. (not anyone in this thread, the people in the blue text area)
  1. Kryos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DarthMonk79 View Post
    RPG being the main part... its a role playing game, you are supposed to be in the world, not just jumping around from point A to point B and ignoring everything else.
    So why have flight pathes and teleporters at all? And why homestones? And what has all that to do with the game being a role playing game. If I use a portal or ride a flying dragon I play the role of somone using a portal or riding a dragon. I don't understand the point of your rant.
  1. Siph's Avatar
    As if the flying mounts that are already able to run on the ground don't look ridiculous enough yet. Good call to put development effort into that shit. I wanna see people run around on their nightsabers, (skeletal) warhorses and wolfs, not look retarded on some overgrown dragon or phoenix.

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