MMO-Champion - Challenge Mode End of Season - Reward Clarifications
Challenge Mode End of Season - Reward Clarifications
Blizzard posted clarifications on how Challenge mode rewards will play out at the end of the season.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Countless adventurers continue to brave the most trying versions of Mists of Pandaria dungeons, but the clock is ticking. This “season” of Challenge Modes will be coming to an end with the upcoming release of a patch prior to the expansion’s release.

Challenge Modes are designed to offer as close to a “normalized” difficulty as possible, and they’re tuned to be tough to master. With Warlords of Draenor’s class changes, itemization changes (e.g. the removal of Hit and Expertise), and—of course—increased level cap on the horizon, the difficulty of Mists of Pandaria’s dungeons will no longer be tuned the same as they were. In the spirit of fair play, when the aforementioned patch is released a little while before the new expansion launches, the current slate of Challenge Mode dungeons will no longer be available, and the achievements they award will be converted to Feats of Strength. The reward items will still be available for purchase by those who qualified prior to the end of the season, but it will not be possible for new players to earn those rewards going forward.

If you still need to earn your Undaunted title, Ancestral Phoenix, or class-specific Transmogrification sets, now’s the time to get out there and prove your worth. In Warlords of Draenor, an entirely new set of Challenge Modes will be available . . . and with them an array of new rewards for you to earn. Until then, stay sharp!

* Reward Clarifications

With the upcoming end of the Challenge Mode Season, we wanted to provide some additional clarification on how we plan to handle rewards.

Achievements: All Achievements associated with Mists of Pandaria Challenge Modes will become Feats of Strength.

Rewards
  • Bronze: The “Undaunted” title for achieving a full set of Bronze medals will become account-wide.
  • Silver: The Pandaren Phoenix mounts awarded for a full set of Silver medals will become account-wide. If any character on an account has earned a full set of Silver medals, all four variants of the Pandaren Phoenix (Crimson, Ashen, Violet, and Emerald) will become available to all characters account-wide.
  • Gold: The cosmetic class sets will remain character-specific. Any character that has earned all nine Gold medals will still be able to repurchase the appropriate set, should they misplace theirs, from Challenger Soong or Challenger Wuli in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. Any characters that have earned one or more “Challenger’s Path” teleport spells by earning Gold medals in Mists Challenge Modes will retain those spells.
  • Realm Best Titles: There are extremely limited titles that are held by the players who hold the best clear time for a given dungeon on a given server. Since those Challenge dungeons will no longer be available in Warlords of Draenor, their respective titles are also being permanently removed. There will be new Challenge dungeons in the upcoming Warlords season, and new titles for which to contend, however.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Challenge Mode End of Season - Reward Clarifications started by Boubouille View original post
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  1. Goge's Avatar
    "If any character on an account has earned a full set of Silver medals, all four variants of the Pandaren Phoenix (Crimson, Ashen, Violet, and Emerald) will become available to all characters account-wide."

    So basically, if you have done the Challenge Modes on only 1 character (and only got 1 phoenix), you get an extra 3 mounts as soon as the rewards are removed?
  1. Nemah's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by paraalso View Post
    Staying on a dead server was never doing to work.
    My server is (beyond) dead and has yet to be slated for a realm merge that we know of. Some people from a high pop server transferred to it to specifically take advantage of being able to get and hold the titles, ostensibly until they were made permanent. Joke's on them, I guess, lol.
  1. arcaneshot's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholysin View Post
    What a bunch of shit. Our group worked our butts off to beat all the realm best times and make them very hard to beat again by anyone else. Dedicated many 3-4 hour nights twice a week to make sure we kept the titles. Now I have no desire to do them at all. Horrible idea, I'm sure many groups that had plans to keep pushing for realm bests will just stop now too. Way to take away the incentive to compete...
    You mean as opposed to what you were doing by trying to make sure nobody else can take the titles away from you?
  1. Yuyn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Goge View Post
    So basically, if you have done the Challenge Modes on only 1 character (and only got 1 phoenix), you get an extra 3 mounts as soon as the rewards are removed?
    That is indeed what it sounds like. While a bit of an odd turn, it's not completely nonsensical (and also only revealed when it's confirmed they go account-wide) given the relative lack of difficulty of the silver ones -- if you got silver on one character, it's very difficult to imagine you couldn't do it three more times, making this more of a time saver than anything else.
  1. ro9ue's Avatar
    I really don't like when they remove shit from the game. I understand the point of view as to why some people think it's appropriate, I just disagree with it.
  1. Neromius's Avatar
    For clarity and brevity's sake since reading comprehension is hard:

    Quote Originally Posted by Boubouille View Post
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

    Silver:The Pandaren Phoenix mounts ... will become account-wide.
    If any character on an account has earned a full set of Silver medals, all four variants of the Pandaren Phoenix will become available.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by segoplout View Post
    Well, they are not. Everything else you wrote after is just noise. Wow is still by far the best MMO on the market.
    Why? Because it's popular? So Justin Bieber is the best? If they took the same effort they did making witty april fool jokes and put it into the game maybe they'd be gaining subscribers instead of massively losing them.
  1. Aeluron Lightsong's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Why? Because it's popular? So Justin Bieber is the best? If they took the same effort they did making witty april fool jokes and put it into the game maybe they'd be gaining subscribers instead of massively losing them.
    You're bitching over nothing Shudder as usual. People like you are why we can't have nice things the devs are still working on WoD. So please go back to your hole.
  1. Blinksworth's Avatar
    Choosing my phoenix suddenly seems a lot less personal. It's like when I completed Netherwing in TBC, or Cloud Serpent, and just brought the others.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    You're bitching over nothing Shudder as usual. People like you are why we can't have nice things the devs are still working on WoD. So please go back to your hole.
    Seems to me they spend most of their time telling us what they're removing from the game not what they're adding. And what they are adding is laughable. Only 3 dungeons when we're leveling from 90 to 100.
  1. Aeluron Lightsong's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Seems to me they spend most of their time telling us what they're removing from the game not what they're adding. And what they are adding is laughable. Only 3 dungeons when we're leveling from 90 to 100.
    Laughable to you. If you honestly think the April Fools joke took a similar amount of work to developing an expansion, you are being intellectually dishonest.
  1. Kaleredar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by araistlinx View Post
    ^ This seems to make the most sense. Hopefully they reconsider; it would be a pretty good idea to keep them in so people can have fun things to still accomplish while we wait around aimlessly.
    I would assume because the exact cut-off time would be rather nebulous and different for some servers/x-realm groups. To save themselves the QQ storm of "but we were almost world best time when the servers shut off!," they figured they'll just nix em entirely.
  1. Shieldd's Avatar
    Wow, the responses to this are less than impressive.

    The title was stated before hand to be a TEMPORARY title. No one has a right to be angry. If they wanted to release them, it should go to everyone who has completed Gold in the individual challenge.
  1. Pampar's Avatar
    I have been slacking with CM's but will be doing it this weekend.
  1. dkhunter's Avatar
    Checked the comments just to see all the ranting and raving and 'WOW is dead' comments and was not disappointed! And I really just do not understand how the mount wording is confusing. If you have Silvers on one character, all four mounts will be account wide and in your mount page when the patch goes live. It's not hard people.
  1. Derpaderp's Avatar
    Are you fucking real? The titles would only be lost if times were beaten, me and my group have worked our asses off to beat some of the absolute best times in the world to get our titles on, our hunter has 105 tortos LFR kills to get the right bracers, I have over 70 twin consorts kills to get the right bracers as a monk (still don't have the right ones neither one of us), we've put down so much time on farming rares for all the shit you use in speed runs (banners, battle horns, amber thingy for CC etc), we've spent an infinite amount of gold on drums of speed & darkwater potions (none of us really have time to farm it so we have to buy the shit off the AH) and now we finally secured our realm best titles by completely annihilating any competition on the server that we once had, and they announce this.. Yeha, thanks blizz, would like 3 months of my life back.
  1. Ealyssa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Artemishowl View Post
    I don't think its fair to remove those titles from people who worked hard to earn them, let them keep them. No, I am not an owner of one, but it still doesn't make sense to remove them from my perspective.
    It actually totally make sense... The title is for being the first of the current race. If their is no race their is no first. What's the point of having this title when nobody can challenge you ? To brag "lol I was lucky enough to be the first when patch released" ?

    People who fight for the title NOW don't care to maintain it. They will fight for the WOD title.
  1. Derpaderp's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    It actually totally make sense... The title is for being the first of the current race. If their is no race their is no first. What's the point of having this title when nobody can challenge you ? To brag "lol I was lucky enough to be the first when patch released" ?

    People who fight for the title NOW don't care to maintain it. They will fight for the WOD title.

    The titles have been out since 5.4, there has been plenty of time for people to work and beat times that hold the current titles. I currently hold 9/9 realm best titles on 2 realms, 1 realm has 2 other teams and the other realm has one other team to compete against, however, as I previously mentioned, we put down so much time and money on this that we completely annihilated the competition we had (on the realm with 2 competing teams) that they haven't even gotten close to beat our new times, which include a lot of top 10-20 world timers, and on the other realm we haven't really try-harded that much, we got the titles, they beat our times after 4-5 months, we went back in and got them all back in 2 days.

    So it doesn't really make sense in removing these titles. These are the rank 1 gladiator titles of PvE this expansion really. I mean, every other FoS title still excists on those accounts (death's demise, grand crusader, conqueror of naxxramas, etc).

    I would like to hear their actual reasoning for removing the titles.

    I'd rather have them remove my hellscream's downfall / fearless / storm's end titles in 6.0 than the realm #1 titles that I only have access to on 1 char.
  1. Durantye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Derpaderp View Post
    Are you fucking real? The titles would only be lost if times were beaten, me and my group have worked our asses off to beat some of the absolute best times in the world to get our titles on, our hunter has 105 tortos LFR kills to get the right bracers, I have over 70 twin consorts kills to get the right bracers as a monk (still don't have the right ones neither one of us), we've put down so much time on farming rares for all the shit you use in speed runs (banners, battle horns, amber thingy for CC etc), we've spent an infinite amount of gold on drums of speed & darkwater potions (none of us really have time to farm it so we have to buy the shit off the AH) and now we finally secured our realm best titles by completely annihilating any competition on the server that we once had, and they announce this.. Yeha, thanks blizz, would like 3 months of my life back.
    You are way exaggerating what it takes to get these titles, if you fought on your current realm and your current realm had some of the best in the world then you were fighting for times not titles, there are tons of realms out there where with a non-optimal comp and barely any effort in gear will get you the achievements and titles. Grats you have your title now enjoy it but obviously if the titles were all you were going for there were way better ways to go about it, spending 3 months of your life doing this was your decision to aim for the times on that specific realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpaderp View Post
    The titles have been out since 5.4, there has been plenty of time for people to work and beat times that hold the current titles. I currently hold 9/9 realm best titles on 2 realms, 1 realm has 2 other teams and the other realm has one other team to compete against, however, as I previously mentioned, we put down so much time and money on this that we completely annihilated the competition we had (on the realm with 2 competing teams) that they haven't even gotten close to beat our new times, which include a lot of top 10-20 world timers, and on the other realm we haven't really try-harded that much, we got the titles, they beat our times after 4-5 months, we went back in and got them all back in 2 days.

    So it doesn't really make sense in removing these titles. These are the rank 1 gladiator titles of PvE this expansion really. I mean, every other FoS title still excists on those accounts (death's demise, grand crusader, conqueror of naxxramas, etc).

    I would like to hear their actual reasoning for removing the titles.

    I'd rather have them remove my hellscream's downfall / fearless / storm's end titles in 6.0 than the realm #1 titles that I only have access to on 1 char.
    Lol comparing Cmode titles to gladiator titles is laughable.
  1. Quiddy's Avatar
    Oh, Im going to just re-use my post from similar topic on GD forum ^^

    Hey guys!
    Since I am a CM geek, I've read this topic, and just wanted to share a few words as a person which is actually fighting for those titles.

    For once, my group have managed to acquire them at the very begining, and after few months we lost them. No biggie, we can always get them back. And we were about to, just talking with people and setting up for a few (dozen?) runs to retake them. Times on our server aren't that tough, so why not. Some of those people have only stayed in MoP for so long, after clearing 14/14hc, just to enjoy that competition of running against other groups, to see who - in the end - will be best and aquires those titles. Sounds like fun to me, even if only for those elite groups, but hey - its not like people are complaining that Garrosh hc is too elite, right?

    Now, some of you are trying to tell me, that it is just vile for a few reasons.

    1. Another group can beat you in all on the very last day, and get them from you. Well, yea, I guess thats what competition is all about. If you are not carefull, same thing can happen in arena brackets with your glad title. Last day you can just get bounced from top, and you end with nothing. Thats is why those groups are sitting now in CMs, getting best times they can think of - and if someone beats them - its only fair to approve their superiority. After announcement, that titles are being removed - carrot is gone, so who would want to just improve? Got FoSes, im done. And, which is important as well, if times are decent, it is impossible to retake them all in 1 day (or even a week) without a long practise period. Current world record in SH is 2:58, on good servers around 3:30-3:40. Good luck one shotting that.

    2. CMs r1 would be sold around for titles - Well, boo freakin' hoo, so what? Wake up, every day dozens of players are getting boosted through CM golds, 14/14hcs, arenas and so on. If server is any good, then it is not possible to get those FoSes with a customer. You can trust this guy - I have over 600 CMs completed on my priest only. On the other hand - boosting someone on some dead realm? Fine, why not, if any 'native' 5 man group will gather to do them, its theirs. Not even 1 trully boosting group will be able to maintain those r1 with a customer, in case any other group wants to get them. Becouse after they get beaten, they would have to get back there. And again. And again. Up to a point where you are just not able to do it with a customer - unless you practise with him a lot - but I've never heard of such a long-term boosting agreement :P

    3. Those titles can only be aquired only by certain classes - ok, thats true in most cases - so how does it work, when each season in a PvP ladder one setup is just taking it all - and noone is complaining on a similiar level? If you really want those titles (which are character specific btw), you can just roll an alt. It all depends on your commitment. Besides, I've seen some seriously strange setups on various servers, that just blew my mind - and their times were actually good. Like I said - its all about how serious you are about your efforts and how imaginative you can be - to come up with new tactics which will let you be that few seconds faster each try.

    And Im happy to answer to more. In my opinion this decision from Blizz only took a huge piece of fun lots of people could have while fighting over those titles, myself included. Ah well, maybe they will change their mind in a few days - after all that CM blog looks just so poorly written..

    Cheers, thanks for reading, take care.
    Quid - EU-Stormscale

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