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Warlords of Draenor - Developer Interviews
Today we are looking at an interview by Final Boss with Ion Hazzikostas and an interview by Blizzplanet with Kris Zierhut and Steve Burke.

FinalBoss Interview

Watcher
  • Ion Hazzikostas uses "Watcher" because he needed a name for his character used to watch Ulduar raids on the PTR.
  • There is a big TV in the encounter design office where the team watches the current progression for any unintended strategies being used to hotfix.
  • Watcher worked on the Faction Champions boss in Trial of the Crusader.
  • Watcher wrote the "In the mountains" line used by Thorim and the "Suffer mortals, as your pathetic magic betrays you" line used by Sindragosa.
  • Watcher did some class design and encounter creation in his earlier time at Blizzard, but now mostly oversees and guides the encounter design process.
  • Rhyolith is one of Watcher's least favorite fights, as the steering mechanic didn't work out well. It might have worked well for a dungeon, but with 10 or 25 people trying to steer it didn't work as well.
  • Amber-Shaper Un'sok is another, as it didn't give players a chance to test and practice the vehicle part of the fight.
  • There were multiple ways to deal with the molten elementals on Ragnaros in Firelands. Mechanics like this that have mulitple approaches are some of the more fun mechanics.

Mists of Pandaria
  • Week to week randomization on Stone Guard worked okay, but it is frustrating to come back the next week and have to relearn the fight. It isn't likely we will see much of that in the first tier of Warlords of Draenor.
  • Patch 5.1 daily quests with a story and the exploration of Timeless Isle both worked out well, and elements of them will appear in Warlords of Draenor.
  • If you want to log in every day there should be something for you to do, but you shouldn't feel like you have to log in every day to do something.
  • Originally Heroic Paragons was going to vary weekly, but that idea was discarded after seeing testing on the PTR. Having to relearn the fight every week would not have worked out well. It varied on pull on the PTR for testing purposes.
  • Tier 14 and Tier 15 could have gone on a little bit longer in order to reduce the amount of time that Siege of Orgrimmar was the current raid.

Warlords of Draenor Beta
  • Making an expansion is harder than making a patch, as expansions improve systems and add new features rather than just adding some new content. This usually takes longer than expected, which makes the timeline for release less predictable.
  • The Mists of Pandaria beta was different because so many people needed an invite from the Annual Pass. This time around, beta will be more limited and only used for testing and feedback.
  • Fourteen of the seventeen raid bosses have already been tested internally, and by the time guilds are invited all seventeen bosses will likely be ready for testing.
  • More people are being hired every expansion, but there is ramp up time for the new people. Having a larger team presents some challenges, but things should be better from Warlords on.

Warlords of Draenor Raids
  • No vehicle fights are planned for Warlords of Draenor.
  • There are no Mythic only bosses are planned for the first tier in Warlords of Draenor, as they usually fit better in a larger raid zone. This doesn't mean there won't be any in the future.
  • There are no plans to use limited attempts for the first tier of Warlords of Draenor right now. In Icecrown, the limited attempts encouraged raiders to use alt raids to learn the fights before using their main characters. It did work well on the Lich King, as alts couldn't get that far, so players had to use their main character.
  • Currently the team is still working on the intro experience, so they aren't ready to invite players yet. There is a lot of other content ready, but the intro experience is the first thing that players will test.
  • Flexible size raids will allow you to have anywhere from 10 to 30 players in a raid, provided client and server performance is okay.
  • Integration with the environment worked out well on Siegecrafter, so we might see more fights where the room is involved with the fight.
  • The Immortal achievement only worked because Naxx was relatively easy.
  • When testing Flex on the Patch 5.4 PTR, gear was initially scaled down too much. This resulted in the raid feeling more like normal than flex, which was a demonstration that scaling would work for normal too.
  • Patch 6.0 will be live for ~4-6 weeks to allow for testing of the changes.
  • LFR will no longer drop set pieces, but it will drop loot much more often, which will help to offset this change. Right now you have to run LFR for months to get all of the loot you want, which is not a fun experience.

Warlords of Draenor Raid Lockouts
  • For the first few weeks of Warlords of Draenor, people might be interested in running multiple raid difficulties, but after that one difficulty should be sufficient.
  • Having raids that are not linear will also allow groups to skip bosses that no one needs, which will reduce the amount of time that you do spend raiding if you want something from another difficulty.
  • Guilds won't be spending much more time than they do now raiding once things are on farm, it just may be slightly more repetitive.
  • Heroic does not need to be cleared before you start on Mythic, but Mythic will unlock one week after Heroic.
  • Normal and Heroic lockouts are loot based, so you can kill the same boss multiple times a week. Mythic lockouts will be the same as Heroic is today, with a single ID and no raid size scaling.
  • The multiple raids in the first Warlords of Draenor will open over time, with Blackrock Foundry opening a number of weeks after Highmaul.
  • Week 1 of Warlords will have no raids unlocked. Week 2 will have Normal and Heroic Highmaul unlocked. Week 3 will have Mythic unlocked.

Legendary Quest
  • The pacing of the legendary reward in Patch 5.2 worked out well, as Throne of Thunder was cleared before people got their legendary meta gems. The gem worked as a nice boost for guilds that were partially through the tier.
  • In Patch 5.4, players got the legendary on day 1, which didn't work out as well. A delay of a few weeks would work better.
  • Having to redo the grinding parts of the legendary quest chain again on alts also wasn't great, so in the future this would be something that you can skip on alts.

Challenge Modes
  • Challenge modes will still remain timer based in Warlords of Draenor.
  • The team couldn't make many changes without disrupting the leaderboards in Mists of Pandaria.
  • Crowd control might be more important in Warlords of Draenor challenge modes.

Warlords of Draenor Class Changes
  • Instant casts and the impact that moving during combat has on players is something the team has to take into account when designing an encounter. Instant cast heals were just too powerful late in Mists of Pandaria, making huge spikes of damage necessary to present any threat.
  • Making it take longer to top people off will allow for more depth in healing gameplay. Rather than spamming heals to get the most HPS, players will have to pick who to heal and which spell to use. Cataclysm healing didn't work as well due to how tight the mana constraints were.
  • Active mana regeneration is something for healers to do when they don't need to heal urgently and could use more mana.
  • Discipline priests have been on the stronger side for most of the expansion, as absorbs take away from the healing that other healers can do. This will be addressed in Warlords of Draenor.
  • Nerfing classes in the middle of a raid tier doesn't work well, as it would require changing encounters to make them slightly easier for groups that depend on that class. If a group didn't have any of that class, it makes it even easier for them.
  • Hunters aren't casters, so they will still be able to cast many things while moving. If there is a fight with no movement, Hunters won't do as well, but there aren't really many (or any) fights with no movement.
  • Casters have too many ways to cast while moving now, which made them too strong compared to melee DPS.
  • During Wrath of the Lich King, good casters minimized movement and used their time while moving as efficiently as possible.

Spell Visuals
  • Some classes have visuals that are disproportionally noisy, like Holy Word: Sanctuary and Moonfire. These will be adjusted.
  • Some visuals will have a toned down version that everyone other than the caster sees.
  • Every spell visual will have an internal priority that is used to determine what you see. If there is a lot going on in an encounter, lower priority visuals will be hidden. This should improve client performance in raids and make it easier to see what is going on. This can be turned off by players that want to see everything.
  • In Heroic 25 player raids, the client will be displaying roughly 50-70% fewer effects than before. (Celestalon)

Proving Grounds
  • Right now, Proving Grounds have a few problems with the gear downscaling, especially with healers and a few other specs. Other than that, Proving Grounds really do show some amount of the skill players have.
  • Right now Proving Grounds just proves and doesn't teach, but Warlords of Draenor will address this at some point.
  • Players are generally poor judges of their skill, as they don't recognize how much better the people in the top guilds are. They also don't recognize how many players exist that would have a hard time getting Bronze or Silver in Proving Grounds. These players don't really know what they are doing wrong, so Proving Grounds will give them a chance to learn how to do things right without other players yelling at them.

Timewalker
  • The team wants to let players scale down to an appropriate level to do older dungeons. They are still working on the structure and rewards, but they hope to do it at some point in the not too distant future. Initially this would just be for dungeons, not raids.

Garrisons
  • Having a garrison is mandatory, but what you do with it is up to you. It will work well with the story that you experience while leveling, but if you level with dungeons you can catch up on your garrison later.
  • Garrisons will offer a some normal raid quality any maybe a few heroic raid quality items towards the end of the raid tier.
  • Mythic raiders will be fine if they don't do anything with their garrison.
  • There will be some account level restrictions that ensure that you don't have to do everything with your garrison on every alt.

Blizzplanet
  • Orcs will come through the Dark Portal and take over Blackrock Mountain in the Warlords of Draenor world event.
  • The alliance will work with Velen, Akama, and Maraad in Shadowmoon Valley.
  • Assaults on your garrison will happen repeatedly, and get harder as time goes on. You will keep upgrading the item level of your followers.
  • You will have to make many choices about the buildings in your garrison as you level through the zones.
  • After boosting to 90, all of the things in your bags will be mailed to you. The mail has an unlimited duration, so you can sort through those things whenever you want.


Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Can you please consider the over-simplifying you all are doing to the game. You will lose even more subscribers if you proceed.
A) Threatening sub loss got old a looong time ago. B) Read our reasoning in the patch notes; we're removing complexity, not depth. (Celestalon)
I would have to disagree. DoT Snapshotting was one of the only things that gave DPS depth, or skill for that matter.
We agree, in theory, but not in practice. In practice, an addon did it. That wasn't removed as part of ability pruning anyway. (Celestalon)
Weren't we told over and over again that snapshotting was going away? Was this idea reverted?
No...? (Celestalon)

Is the Gladiator's Resolve talent an experiment that might get expanded to other tank classes eventually? #BloodDPS
Possibly. Not for Warlords, but it is an experiment that we're eager to see the results of, so to speak. (Celestalon)

Death Knight (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
My concern is that very few top level death knights take RE. I'll admit I don't have data to back this up however.
It's more than you may think, but still not high. Overall, yes, this row is OK. All get some play, with RE being the least. And... (Celestalon)
...we think that will be improved a bit by having some spare GCDs in your rotation. (Celestalon)

Mage (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
WoD: Without Vengeance and changes to Arcane - Arcane AoE sounds like suicide. Comments?
Tanks will generate about as much threat as they do today under most circumstances; AoEing tanked mobs shouldn't be an issue. (WatcherDev)
And fights like Dark Shamans? This AoE change just screams death to me. :c
Which AoE change in particular do you mean, just so we're clear? (WatcherDev)

Have we seen everything in terms of new abilities/passives/perks (non-talent stuff) for mages?
Well Alpha isn't Release; things may still change. But no more new abilities currently planned. (Celestalon)
I see. Considered giving PoM to Fire so Combustion is more controllable burst like Arcane Power/IV? Or intentional difference?
Intentional difference. Don't want to have SO much of your damage concentrated into that one 10sec period. (Celestalon)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Avengers Shield used to silence all targets struck. Seems it only does the initial target now. Will it go back in WoD?
No plans to, no. It's more power than is needed. (Celestalon)

You mentioned that H-Paladins would keep the 10% haste from SoI. Why opt for haste instead of just lowering cast times baseline?
Haste is more easily understood. We don't normally do faster cast times for specific specs often. Also, haste reduces the GCD too (Celestalon)
Is haste reducing gcd for all class/specs? If so are paladins getting something in place of this perk?
Haste has always reduced the GCD for spells, for everyone. (Celestalon)

PvE
Are we ever going to see 10man only raids like Karazhan and Zul'Aman again?
No current plans for fixed-side 10-player raids -- what is the appeal to you of a raid that allows 10, but not 11, 12, etc? (WatcherDev)

but it would be a lot more useful in LFR? why have it for dungeons and not lfr?
Heroic dungeons in particular will be more challenging than LFR, and one unprepared player can have a greater negative impact. (WatcherDev)

My nhc raid is just plain stuck at 14/14. We are old folks with jobs/kids etc. We will not improve our game much more.
If you can kill Garrosh, you absolutely should be able to do at least the first 8 on the next difficulty up. Have you tried? (WatcherDev)

Please give us bosses tuned around Garrosh NHC that we can progress on. Immerseus HC is too easy, anything beyond too hard.
Are you a 25-player or 10-player group? Fallen Protectors and Norushen should be well within reach if you've killed Garrosh. (WatcherDev)
thx for your reply. we are 25man. we spent some time on norushen, but even with quite aggressive healer/dps ratios...>
Fallen Protectors is probably a better next step on 25H; try making He and Sun transition simultaneously if you haven't been. (WatcherDev)
Thx again, we will try that. I read from your response that there are no zone buffs/debuffs planned for T16. Thx Digerati, too.
Correct, there's no zonewide aura planned. We're keeping an eye on overall progression rates in case targeted nerfs are needed (WatcherDev)

PvP
Disagree, I actually enjoy playing 2v2. Not as much as I did back in TBC, but I still have fun with it...
2v2 is more accessible. Less people to track. Feel like Dampening was important change for that bracket. (holinka)
I haven't played much post-dampening change tbh. But I'm curious, will dampening change in WoD?
We're pretty happy with Dampening. Starting at 5 minutes in 3s is still on the table. (holinka)

Will Rated battlegrounds get spectator mode as well?
Yes (holinka)
Awesome stuff. Although will people use to to cheat to check on rogue ambushes at nodes?
Spectator mode is geared towards people that want to broadcast tournaments. (holinka)

Ever considered doing a BG where the goal is within a certain time limit, most kills win?
you never know (holinka)

Professions
I'm a little worried about Engineering in WoD after interview. I'd love more info on this!
What in particular worries you about it? (WatcherDev)
it sounds like they're turning into enchants anyone can use, and are interchangeable with potions? I like that its unique to eng
Engineering will keep some personal toys and fun stuff. The main thing that's changing is just Nitro Boost. (WatcherDev)
so in effect, everyone gets a speed boost every 3 mins? not saying it's a bad thing, but will have an impact on button bloat.
The thought is to actually have that particular effect be on the potion cooldown. Intravenous Swiftness Potion, basically. (WatcherDev)

You think sharing with Synapse Springs would be more fitting? Both 'lore'-wise and to be dps forgiving. 3 mins is a long time
Synapse Springs are gone, as part of the general disarmament of passive/rotational DPS perks from professions. (WatcherDev)

Garrisons
Will MoP farming be coming in WoD somehow? I enjoy farming and don't want to see it die in Wod.
Your Draenor garrison has a farm plot, though your friends from Sunsong Ranch will remain there. (WatcherDev)

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  1. mikencarly's Avatar
    so we gettomg a month to see 6.0 before wod comes out hmmm interesting i wonder if we getting a event.
  1. Herradura's Avatar
    Easter was two weeks ago. Does it really take that long to make those shitty comics?
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Daws View Post
    Not sure I like the sound of this - "Assaults on your garrison will happen repeatedly, and get harder as time goes on"

    Of course there's not much info but please don't turn the garrison into a chore. Yes I can see defending them being fun the first couple of times but I don't want to have to constantly come back to my garrison because some orc mob is randomly attacking it, especially months down the line when I simply won't care about the garrison. I'm now having nightmare visions of random attacks on my garrison whilst online or worse a daily defence quest.

    Come to think of it could blizzard stop giving us these 1 line snipits of information, flesh things out properly. It really would remove much of the speculation and make it look at least like a professional approach to distributing information.
    That isn´t the way it is going to work. Forget everything you are thinking, and imagine this. Every 4th day you get the option to queue for a solo scenerio. that scenario consists of you, along with your followers, and any online friends who want to come along, doing a scenerio where you are defending your garrison. That is it. you will joing the scenario, be in the middle of your garrison, and suddenly bad guys will start pouring in. The more you upgrade and level your followers, the easier it will be.

    That is all it is going to be. They are NOT going to invade your garrison until you decide to queue for the scenaro. If you never queue for the scenario nothing bad will happen to your garrison except you will not get the reward for completing it. It really is just a very cool scenario where your followers actually help you.
  1. mitbrandir's Avatar
    Every visual will have an internal priority that is used to determine what you see. If there is a lot going on in an encounter, lower priority visuals will be hidden. This should improve client performance in raids and make it easier to see what is going on. This can be turned off by players that want to see everything. In Heroic 25 player raids, the client will be displaying roughly 50-70% fewer effects than before. (Celestalon)
    Awesome
  1. subanark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    But heck, why am I typing this.. it was the same type of idiots who cried about the 5.0 dailies as being mandatory even though you were capped at 1000Vp per week. People are just too stupid to see how it all fits together on a schedule. Instead they will see ´you can get raid gear from garrisions and just stary crying and whining on the forums about them being mandatory'..
    Dailies in 5.0 felt mandatory, not for the VP, but rather for the rep. Aside from profession stuff, it was quite possible that by the time you finished the rep grind, you could pick up something that you didn't get a chance to get in the raid (assuming you aren't top tier, week 2 heroic mode player). Personally, I'm still using an upgraded timeless ring despite being being 5/12H.
  1. Zoaric's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Herradura View Post
    Easter was two weeks ago. Does it really take that long to make those shitty comics?
    Comic was up on time... MMO-C rarely adds that it's been updated the same day,
    let alone week.

    And if they're so "shitty", why do you care?
  1. cuafpr's Avatar
    I still hate the LFR no tier and fully expect it to be changed by the time WoD is over.... to many people use LFR that wont move to flex(normal), and those people want (desever imo) tier gear of that ilvl. in my experience a lot of people that raid at that level enjoy collecting things like full tier sets. Even though I do normal/flex now its fun to take an alt i'm not good at into LFR and collect a tier set when I like its looks.
  1. Mellrod's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by AzureBeast View Post
    WoD is gonna be great! We gonna lose the whiners and buzzkills for a few weeks and then they'll be back to moan in-game about flight.
    #IgnoreIsYourFriend
    if there was a "^This" button on each comment i'd press it so hard for yours. Couldn't agree more.

    People moan and shout like some sort of hatred orgy but they know they'll play anyways and their opinions will change about it once they actually EXPERIENCE the game rather than see it on paper. it's the same learning process Blizzard has with WoD during development. Their ideas and concepts will change when they see it in action during beta and live.

    I'm a bit sketchy about Garrisons being mandatory, but i know that Blizzard has stated several times how announcements right off the bat are never final, and i don't think it's a big deal really. They are mandatory for leveling experience, but nothing stops me from not avoiding it at level cap, which is where most players spend their time. Plus, Garrisons seem to benefit you alot more than people give them credit for. They give you good leveling gear, gold, help you with your professions as well as limited access into other proffs. Idk why you WOULDNT want to use a Garrison for leveling or at cap. My point is that people need to keep an open mind instead of reading one Alpha patch note and giving their traditional "Cater To Me or I Quit" speech. I honestly wish so many people weren't like that in the WoW community so blizz would stop seeing the whiny majority over the sensible minority. But oh well, what can you do?

    Rant Mode: Off
  1. valcrist's Avatar
    idk the more i hear about this expansion and the more they reveal what is coming for WOD the more i am turned off by the game. There is nothing in WOD that looks interesting to me, other then Garrisons there is really nothing new added to the table on top of adding 10$ more to the cost. Classes are getting stripped down to boring levels, same basic plans add dungeons, new leveling areas and imo a very lack luster set of 90-100 skills and terrible level 100 talents. Over all i just fail to see the big catch for this expansion, sad i was so exciting for this expansion at blizzcon but they are going the complete opposite direction i was expecting them too and on top of all that the new PVP zone sounds freaking stupid, here i was thinking there was going to be this awesome PVP sandbox zone with segies etc but no it just sounds like a PVP of timeless isle. I hate to say it but i bet blizzard loses 1 million subs this next conf call due to ESO and wildstar and by release i bet another 500k and i dont know if they will recover with wod or not i just fail to see the draw.
  1. Aeluron Lightsong's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    idk the more i hear about this expansion and the more they reveal what is coming for WOD the more i am turned off by the game. There is nothing in WOD that looks interesting to me, other then Garrisons there is really nothing new added to the table on top of adding 10$ more to the cost. Classes are getting stripped down to boring levels, same basic plans add dungeons, new leveling areas and imo a very lack luster set of 90-100 skills and terrible level 100 talents. Over all i just fail to see the big catch for this expansion, sad i was so exciting for this expansion at blizzcon but they are going the complete opposite direction i was expecting them too and on top of all that the new PVP zone sounds freaking stupid, here i was thinking there was going to be this awesome PVP sandbox zone with segies etc but no it just sounds like a PVP of timeless isle. I hate to say it but i bet blizzard loses 1 million subs this next conf call due to ESO and wildstar and by release i bet another 500k and i dont know if they will recover with wod or not i just fail to see the draw.


    Classes are not getting dumbed down or did you even look at the talents.
  1. Herradura's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoaric View Post
    Comic was up on time... MMO-C rarely adds that it's been updated the same day,
    let alone week.

    And if they're so "shitty", why do you care?
    Because it makes B^U look like Michaelangelo.
  1. Azrile's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by subanark View Post
    Dailies in 5.0 felt mandatory, not for the VP, but rather for the rep. Aside from profession stuff, it was quite possible that by the time you finished the rep grind, you could pick up something that you didn't get a chance to get in the raid (assuming you aren't top tier, week 2 heroic mode player). Personally, I'm still using an upgraded timeless ring despite being being 5/12H.
    Yes, but the 1000VP cap meant that it would be weeks until you could buy anything and the rate at which you gained VP was so slow that it was a waste of time to have 6 different reps fully opened up by the second or third week. There never was any realistic reason to do dailies every day, and certainly not more than 1 or 2 reps at a time.

    it is exactly the same way people are looking at WoD and saying ´omg, I have to run 4 levels of raids´ without seeing the big picture of how it is all scheduled. If you are pushing into heroic or mythic raids by the 4th week, that is when the first 4 bosses of LFR is finally going to be opening up.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellrod View Post
    if there was a "^This" button on each comment i'd press it so hard for yours. Couldn't agree more.

    People moan and shout like some sort of hatred orgy but they know they'll play anyways and their opinions will change about it once they actually EXPERIENCE the game rather than see it on paper. it's the same learning process Blizzard has with WoD during development. Their ideas and concepts will change when they see it in action during beta and live.

    I'm a bit sketchy about Garrisons being mandatory, but i know that Blizzard has stated several times how announcements right off the bat are never final, and i don't think it's a big deal really. They are mandatory for leveling experience, but nothing stops me from not avoiding it at level cap, which is where most players spend their time. Plus, Garrisons seem to benefit you alot more than people give them credit for. They give you good leveling gear, gold, help you with your professions as well as limited access into other proffs. Idk why you WOULDNT want to use a Garrison for leveling or at cap. My point is that people need to keep an open mind instead of reading one Alpha patch note and giving their traditional "Cater To Me or I Quit" speech. I honestly wish so many people weren't like that in the WoW community so blizz would stop seeing the whiny majority over the sensible minority. But oh well, what can you do?

    Rant Mode: Off
    If you want to level by doing dungeons or PVP, you can completely ignore Garrisons. It will end up being something that you have to visit a few times once you hit lvl 100.

    If you want to level by doing quests, but want to ignore Garrisons. It will be like a quest hub that you will frequently be sent to during the course of leveling from 90 to 100. Think of it as that little fort in Kun Lai summit that you free which becomes a quest hub. Many of your quest rewards will be stuff that benefits your garrison, but you can simply choose and ignore your choice ( ie, pick a blacksmith follower over a adventuring follower). They will end up in your Garrison, but you don´t need to do anything with them.

    But personally, I think people are bitching for the sake of bitching. There is a very small subset of the playerbase that ONLY wants to do one specific activity, so anything besides ´hardcore´ raiding is something that is forced on them, or ´mandatory´.. The devs should just completely ignore these players and let them drift away because not only are they negative, but their fixation on one activity makes them always the vocal minority with ´not enough to do´. One of the reasons you hear so much bitching about SoO lasting 9 months is because those are the players who do not want to do anything else in the game but raid. Pet battles, pvp, crafting... they ignore all those things as ´unimportant´ and then complain because they are bored with raiding SoO.
  1. Piotor's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Flimsy View Post
    I think most people dont give 2 shits about WoD, the way they left the game with SoO and lack of Beta or any real information for that matter since the game was announced back at Blizzcon is a disgrace.
    lack of info? you sir are a joke,,, theres tons of info you just have to scroll a bit
  1. AlphaandOmega's Avatar
    Only like 5% of the wall of text was useful, kind of.

    The first part talking about a guy named watcher and ptr raids and writing in the mountain is not useful information at all.

    I'm sick of if a dev talks about what he ate for breakfast being put on here, no one cares!
  1. Kaneiac's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Herradura View Post
    Because it makes B^U look like Michaelangelo.
    These are at least sometimes amusing.

    Buckley is just wordswordswordswords with copy-pasted characters.
  1. Zoaric's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Herradura View Post
    Because it makes B^U look like Michelangelo.
    So, because you dislike the art you find it necessary to complain that it was late?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaandOmega View Post
    Only like 5% of the wall of text was useful, kind of.
    The first part talking about a guy named watcher and ptr raids and writing in the mountain is not useful information at all.
    I'm sick of if a dev talks about what he ate for breakfast being put on here, no one cares!
    It was part of the interview, so it was put into the summary... and not only that, but
    some of us like to know useless trivia like who wrote what or why names are what they
    are. It's also good to know what encounters the lead encounter guy disliked, to know
    what we'll probably be seeing less of in the future.
  1. Laylriana's Avatar
    •Crowd control might be more important in Warlords of Draenor challenge modes.

    Aren't they taking away a lot of the CC that's in the game now?
  1. Terminal Lance's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Laylriana View Post
    •Crowd control might be more important in Warlords of Draenor challenge modes.

    Aren't they taking away a lot of the CC that's in the game now?
    Alot =/= all. Mages will still have poly, Rogues will still have Sap, etc. They trimmed down CCs for PvP, not PvE.

    I agree with one of the points that some of the 5.X patches we're, not rushed, but they could have prolonged it a little so that SoO wouldn't seem so long. I remember just a week (maybe 2?) after 5.0 dropped that there were already blue posts about 5.1. They could've extended 5.0 and 5.2 for a month each and I don't think anyone would've mind, since some people were still working on those raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herradura View Post
    Easter was two weeks ago. Does it really take that long to make those shitty comics?
    Actually, they posted that comic a long time ago, MMO-Champion just takes that long to tell us they posted them. (I like these "shitty comics")

    Edit: 439 actually came out today, the one after the one in this post.

    http://darklegacycomics.com/439.html
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    summ up most exciting things for me
    -Flexible size raids will allow you to have anywhere from 10 to 30 players in a raid, provided client and server performance is okay.
    -Having to redo the grinding parts of the legendary quest chain again on alts also wasn't great, so in the future this would be something that you can skip on alts.
    -The team wants to let players scale down to an appropriate level to do older dungeons. They hope to do it at some point in the not too distant future. Initially this would just be for dungeons, not raids.
    -PROVING GROUNDS
    -Heroic dungeons in particular will be more challenging than LFR (but why then give weaker rewards i'm curious)

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