Azeroth Choppers Episode 5 – Watch Now!

Best episode so far IMO, and its as if they took all the complaints on board because there was only 1 'OMG DEADLINE' bit in the whole episode! The bikes are looking sick as fuck!

I get the bike thing, but I don't get why they have to make an actual bike irl to build it in game engine. Are all the designers at blizz dead? I don't see the reasons for this. Why let the bike design by people who have no idea of the WoW instead of letting your designers make it?

Originally Posted by SubSeco

I get the bike thing, but I don't get why they have to make an actual bike irl to build it in game engine. Are all the designers at blizz dead? I don't see the reasons for this. Why let the bike design by people who have no idea of the WoW instead of letting your designers make it?

It'll probably be a photo op thing at Blizzcon too, but yeah I think they want to replicate the success of the Shaohao webseries, and the cinematic guy seems really passionate about this and other various promotional projects he's been working on

The idea's nice and I'm curious how the bikes will turn out, but it besides Sam Didier I'm not buying anyone's enthousiasm. Especially the workshop guys seem really not into it.

Originally Posted by Hitei

I'll admit I was on the "where the fuck are they going with this" train until I saw this picture, but once you add the colour scheme it will actually look amazing...

...if they lose the treads and use actual wheels

Some decent episode, finally. First 4 were quite disappointing.

I think the Horde bike is taking shape faster than the Alliance one and so far has a clearer theme. Will reserve judgement until bikes are complete of course.

Originally Posted by Sir Happy

I'll admit I was on the "where the fuck are they going with this" train until I saw this picture, but once you add the colour scheme it will actually look amazing...

...if they lose the treads and use actual wheels

Why am i seeing a hoover when i look at this pic???

what do you say about the hordebike? anyone wanna do some sketches like you did for the alliance?

http://s29.postimg.org/xj5g81wo7/hordebike.png

Looking solid. The Alli bike does look kind of buggy right now though, not sure how I feel about that... Horde's seem to be really getting the right feeling, especially with those tusks and chains. Alliance just kind of looks awkward. I really hate those treads.

Pretty sure both bikes will end up in the game regardless of who "wins"... time to level a horde alt I guess!

Does anyone seriously give a shit about this crap?

Originally Posted by Hitei

Well, it kind of DOES matter, precisely because not everyone will get it if they really go with whatever faction wins.

I have 11 90s and they are all Alliance and on a single server.
So if Horde wins that means I have to play one of my 85 Horde characters on a seperate server to ever see/use the mount. Not complaining about a free mount, but it's kind of a dick move to give the mount to half the playerbase, simply because they decided to play that faction.

That's no dick move. That's a typical fucking Vote? The one thing with the most Support wins, the other one loses. A Vote.

And the "half the Playerbase" phrase too? Oh my fucking God. Yeah, you know what that's the thing when it's FACTION SPECIFIC. I want Stormwind for the Horde - That's my Argument now and you know what? It's kind of a dick move we don't have Stormwind, because you know... Half the Playerbase.

Anyways, aside from that nonsense, both Factions are probably going to get their own one anyway.

I hope, they are for the Engineers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by luckydan79

Correct on your thinking but this isn't limited to just one game, or even one profession dude. This happens everywhere, if people don't complain or point out problems then how you gonna fix them. Nothing is ever perfect but all you can do is alter the mould due to changes you can't keep on running the same game adding more branches without pruning them otherwise you have a big mess.

Another problem and real big one with your statement you have to sort out for whinging and complaints. Whinging is only this "Your an idiot" is a whinge, however "This ability is shit cause it locks you for 5 seconds meaning i do nothing" is not is a genuine complaint, cause your removing someone out of combat for 5 seconds when its promoted as a fast action game. "Sure this is nothing but a whinge" no it isn't the problem is presented in a format no savage attacks on anyone and just promotes the problem that's in the game. If its intended they can explain and say well its suppose to be in the game if not they add probably an item to break out of it or make it less effective if spammed cast (SEE mind control problem in WOW).

You have to be careful when you attack people cause right now you are just a whinger attacking people without fixing up the problem, cause at the moment your saying the game is perfect when it's not, nothing is perfect. Complaint points out a problem or can help other people find a solution or suggest an idea, where as whinging does not (which you reply falls in).

I think you missed my point entirely... I'm not saying it's perfect or that people don't have legitimate complaints.

It's more like, there is NO perfect because you can't please everyone.

For example, Person A wants Warlocks to be able to easily beat rogues, Person B wants rogues to faceroll warlocks. Blizzard says "we'll make them competitive with each other" but ultimately that doesn't satisfy Person A or Person B. Obviously that's an example where their expectations are unrealistic in a game environment where the goal is all classes being competitive and no hard counters.

Take another, more reasonable example though:
Person A wants to have access to truly challenging small group content that is also rewarding in gear (AKA, not challenge modes). They are a former heroic raider and only the absolutely most difficult content will present much of a challenge to them.

Person B wants access to those same rewards but doesn't know many people in WoW. The content is too difficult to do with LFD so Blizzard doesn't make it available, their gear isn't high enough to get into PuGs on their server because people only take the best geared people they can find for simplicity.

Person A wants the content to be hard, Person B wants that same content to be easier and more accessible. These are both VALID feedback, but you CAN'T please both. The closest Blizzard can come to it is making two separate difficulties, but then people want the gear to be lesser on the lower difficulty so that they feel rewarded for going through the challenge, then people in the lower difficulty still complain because they want to be able to access the best gear.

It's an endless cycle, and it all boils down to when you have people with nearly diametrically opposed viewpoints you cannot fully satisfy both, you can only hope to make compromises that each will find acceptable.

As I said, this is not unique to WoW, if you want a great example of it look at politics. You can't please everyone and it is foolish to try. All I was getting as it that WoW players are very entertaining in how they handle Blizzard doing things that cater to players other than themselves.