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Dev Watercooler – Stat Updates for Warlords of Draenor
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
In this Dev Watercooler, we’d like to give an update on secondary and minor stats in Warlords of Draenor. A lot has changed since we first revealed our plans at BlizzCon, so this blog will not only cover the latest developments related to what we’ve already discussed, but also go into detail on some new changes we’ve got in the pipe.

Secondary Stats

Existing Secondary Stats: Hit, Expertise, Dodge, Parry, Crit, Mastery, Haste, Spirit
As we announced at BlizzCon, we’re retiring Hit, Expertise, Dodge, and Parry. Hit and Expertise weren’t really providing very interesting gameplay, and Dodge and Parry are being replaced with Bonus Armor. Check out the Patch Notes for further discussion on why we removed these stats.

The other secondary stats—Crit, Mastery, Haste, and Spirit—work well and will be sticking around. One important note is that Spirit will only appear on items for specific slots (fingers, neck, back, and trinkets) and will give a much stronger benefit than it does today. Healers will prefer items with Spirit for those slots, but otherwise will use similar gear to everyone else.

New Stat: Multistrike
A new stat in Warlords of Draenor, Multistrike grants your spells, abilities, and auto-attacks additional chances to activate. If you’ve been following along since BlizzCon, you may remember that in our early plans, your Multistrike chance would split between two rolls and effectively have a 200% cap. We’ve since changed that to make it more clear and intuitive: the full chance is given to both rolls, with a 100% cap.

Now Multistrike grants your spells, abilities, and auto-attacks the chance to activate up to two extra times at 30% of normal effectiveness. For example, if you have 55% Multistrike and cast a Fireball that does 1000–1100 damage, you’ll have two separate 55% chances to automatically follow with another smaller Fireball that does 300–330 damage. That means every time you cast Fireball, you have a chance to see one big-damage Fireball, and then two smaller-damage Fireballs leave your hands in quick succession.

New Stat: Bonus Armor
Throughout the game’s history, some items have had bonus armor on them, which made them more attractive to tanks. After we removed Dodge and Parry, we wanted to replace these stats with a new tank-specific stat, and Bonus Armor fit the bill nicely. As with Spirit, it’ll only show up on rings, necklaces, cloaks, and trinkets. It’s clearly valuable to all tanks, and will be tuned to be much stronger than other secondary stats. Tanks will want to use items with Bonus Armor for those slots.

Retiring Stat: Amplify
We tried out Amplify on trinkets in Siege of Orgrimmar, and at BlizzCon we announced that it’d be a stat in Warlords of Draenor. The intent of Amplify was to multiply the effects of your other secondary stats. However, as we continued development, we found that Amplify had some design problems. In particular, we determined that it would quickly become the absolute best stat for everyone. On top of that, even if we were to apply heavy diminishing returns, the stat still wouldn’t have an interesting effect on your gameplay. For those reasons, it’s no longer going to be a stat in Warlords of Draenor.

Retiring Stat: Readiness
Readiness was another stat that we tried out on Siege of Orgrimmar trinkets. This one looked solid at first. Cooldown reduction is a great concept, the idea was well received, and although there were some balance issues, they seemed solvable. However, as we continued development, we hit a snag. Readiness works great in small quantities on the scale of a trinket or two, like in Siege of Orgrimmar. However, when we expand that to a point where you could potentially have Readiness on all of your character’s gear, problems arise.

Using a damage-dealing (DPS) class as an example, most of the stat’s value comes in letting you use your temporary burst-damage cooldowns (Arcane Power, Vendetta, Recklessness, Dark Soul, etc.) more often. Most of those cooldowns increase damage by 20%–30% while active, which is substantial for a temporary burst ability, but doesn’t compare well against secondary stats. If you stack a lot of Crit and can reach 30% Crit from gear, that’s more or less a 30% passive increase to damage. If secondary stats are equal, you should be able to stack Readiness instead, and get a damage increase that’s similar (or at least close). But how do we give you a 30% damage increase from letting you use a +20% damage cooldown more often? And once you get to 100% uptime, then what?

We experimented with many potential design changes but never found a version of Readiness that really felt good, so we’re going to shelve it for now, at least as a common secondary stat. You may still see it pop up occasionally in small quantities, such as on a trinket.

New Stat: Versatility
The removal of Readiness left some space in our itemization plans and room for another stat to take its place. It’s important to offer players plenty of different secondary stats so that you have a wide variety of interesting and compelling gear to choose from. To that end, we’ve been working on a new secondary stat called Versatility. Versatility is pretty simple: 1% Versatility grants a 1% increase to your damage, healing, and absorbs, and reduces the damage you take by 0.5%. It’s a straightforward, obvious upgrade to your primary role’s performance, but also gives significant boosts to secondary role performance and survivability. The healing increase it provides does work on self-heals, such as Recuperate, for example. We won’t be tuning it to be anyone’s highest throughput secondary stat, but it’ll be close, and it’ll give you a nice boost to how versatile your character is in the process. It’ll be especially attractive to hybrids who want to feel more “hybridy.”

Minor Stats
Most gear that drops in Warlords of Draenor has a chance to have a random bonus in addition to its normal stats. We call these “minor stats,” and they provide a small but useful bonus to your character.

New Minor Stat: Movement Speed
The first of our minor stats is Movement Speed, which, as you can probably guess, increases the speed that you move by a small amount. Previously, movement speed increases came from enchants and various class abilities, but otherwise never directly came from gear. The Movement Speed minor stat will stack with all other sources of movement speed, but we’ll be keeping the maximum benefit you can get from it fairly low—we want it to feel like a fun bonus when you get it, but not a large increase to character power.

New Minor Stat: Avoidance
Another minor stat, Avoidance, has previously only ever been used for a few prominent class pets. It reduces the damage you take from area-of-effect (AoE) attacks, though compared to the pet version, the Avoidance minor stat will come in much smaller quantities. The goal is to soften the blow of AoE attacks a bit, but not allow you to just stand in the fire.

New Minor Stat: Indestructible (previously Sturdiness)
We called this one Sturdiness when we announced it at BlizzCon, and its original effect reduced durability damage that you take by a small amount across your whole character. Since then, we’ve renamed it Indestructible, and changed it to cause that specific item to not take any durability damage. We think the change will make the stat more intuitive while providing a similar overall benefit.

New Minor Stat: Leech (previously Lifesteel)
Lifesteal is another minor stat that has been renamed and slightly redesigned since BlizzCon. Our original plan was for it to convert a percentage of your damage done to self-healing. We’ve extended it to work for healers as well, causing an extra percentage of all of the healing you do to heal you as well. With that change, the name was no longer fitting, so we’re renaming it Leech.

Proposed Minor Stat: Cleave
We announced Cleave as a minor stat at BlizzCon, but have since run into some problems with it. Most importantly, it was of situational value to DPS classes, always valuable to healers, and had very little value to tanks. As a result, we were concerned it would cause items that would otherwise be equally appropriate for a healer and a DPS class to be viewed as “healer gear,” which isn’t our intent. We’ve shelved it for now, though we have some ideas about how it might show up occasionally in specific cases.

The Complete List

In summary, here’s a complete list of our planned secondary and minor stats in Warlords of Draenor:

  • Secondary Stats
    • Haste: (Unchanged) Increases attack speed, spell casting speed, and some resource generation
    • Critical Strike: (Unchanged) Increases your chance to critically strike, dealing double damage
    • Mastery: (Unchanged) Increases the effectiveness of your specialization-specific Mastery
    • Multistrike: (New) Grants two chances for your damage and healing effects to fire an additional time, each at 30% effectiveness
    • Versatility: (New) Increases damage and healing, and reduces damage taken
    • Spirit: (Unchanged, healer-only) Increases mana regeneration rate
    • Bonus Armor: (New, tank-only) Increases your armor
  • Minor Stats
    • Movement Speed: (New) Increases your movement speed
    • Indestructible: (New) Causes the item to not take durability damage
    • Leech: (New) Causes you to be healed for a portion of all damage and healing done
    • Avoidance: (New) Reduces your damage taken from area-of-effect attacks.

As you can see, we have a lot of exciting changes and additions in the works designed to give you a variety of intuitive and interesting gearing options. We’ll be keeping a close eye on how these are playing out in our alpha and beta testing, and we’ll continue to refine and adjust as needed. As always, we look forward to hearing your constructive feedback!
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  1. Colmadero's Avatar
    So sad to see Amplify go...

    Edit: Also first! woot
  1. Dundebuns's Avatar
    Hate the way they've ripped off Overload from Shaman and given it to everyone :<
  1. vykas's Avatar
    Amp seemed rather dull tbh. I am interested in this new Versatility stat though. Interested to see how it pans out.
  1. TrollShaman's Avatar
    Amplify does seem strange in which it's a stat that increases stat.

    I am however sad to see readiness go, popping cooldowns faster is great in pve but not when people in pvp use it on me i guess it's for the best.

    Versatility seems awfully straightforward though, I wonder which spec will treat it as the best secondary stat.
  1. Frothem's Avatar
    Must stack indestructible. Coin purse rejoice ^^
  1. Sativ's Avatar
    Insane how they're pulling 5 new stats out of their butts xD
  1. Eviscero's Avatar
    Wow... 4 minor stats? I find these new stats incredibly underwhelming.

    Also, look at these qualifiers:

    Movement Speed: - "we’ll be keeping the maximum benefit you can get from it fairly low—we want it to feel like a fun bonus when you get it, but not a large increase to character power."

    Avoidance - "soften the blow of AoE attacks a bit, but not allow you to just stand in the fire."

    So at least 2 of the 4 are going to be arbitrarily limited in their power. I read these as "they're on gear but it really won't make much difference to how you play, nor will you notice the benefit all that much."

    Why bother?
  1. goldman's Avatar
    i'm happy to see readiness go, would've been a bothersome for tanks(readiness was too strong for a tank imho), still i don't like versatility at all, it's basically "all my main stats in a secondary stat", a straightforward increase in damage/healing is not really "game-changing"
  1. Chaoslux's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eviscero View Post
    Wow... 4 minor stats? I find these new stats incredibly underwhelming.

    Also, look at these qualifiers:

    Movement Speed: - "we’ll be keeping the maximum benefit you can get from it fairly low—we want it to feel like a fun bonus when you get it, but not a large increase to character power."

    Avoidance - "soften the blow of AoE attacks a bit, but not allow you to just stand in the fire."

    So at least 2 of the 4 are going to be arbitrarily limited in their power. I read these as "they're on gear but it really won't make much difference to how you play, nor will you notice the benefit all that much."

    Why bother?
    It's almost like they were to play a minor part on gear and a nice bonus if there, but not a big deal if they arent there. That seems fitting for a Minor Stat.
  1. Rurts's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eviscero View Post
    Wow... 4 minor stats? I find these new stats incredibly underwhelming.

    Also, look at these qualifiers:

    Movement Speed: - "we’ll be keeping the maximum benefit you can get from it fairly low—we want it to feel like a fun bonus when you get it, but not a large increase to character power."

    Avoidance - "soften the blow of AoE attacks a bit, but not allow you to just stand in the fire."

    So at least 2 of the 4 are going to be arbitrarily limited in their power. I read these as "they're on gear but it really won't make much difference to how you play, nor will you notice the benefit all that much."

    Why bother?
    It'll add up eventually. If these stats were allowed to be too powerful (like increasing your movement by 15% per piece, or decreasing aoe damage taken by a similar amount), these would seriously screw with the Mythic race and there would be a massive outcry about them being unfair *and* mandatory. But if these are relatively weak, less progressed guilds will gather these minor stats throughout the tier and in the end they'll add up and help with healing checks etc.
  1. femur68's Avatar
    Versatility sounds terribly boring. Honestly what they should do instead is let versatility be converted into any secondary stat you choose. So if you have 500 versatility and your class likes crit, you can turn it into crit to bolster yourself. Kind of like reforging, but in a stat instead of a vendor. It's not too much more exciting than blizzs idea of versatility, but it's still better than a flat % increase across the board imo.
  1. Chaoslux's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by goldman View Post
    i'm happy to see readiness go, would've been a bothersome for tanks(readiness was too strong for a tank imho), still i don't like versatility at all, it's basically "all my main stats in a secondary stat", a straightforward increase in damage/healing is not really "game-changing"
    The straightforward increase to my primary role is indeed pretty boring, but when i thought about it, it increases your secondary roles too and i found that already more interesting. They could easily tweak the stats to tip the favor toward the secondary roles too. I can see Versatility being very very welcome as a stat that reduces incoming damage for a mage trying to solo old raids for example. Since we dont generally have the offhealing properties that allows us to withstands a boss damage output.

    In that regard, Versatility does something that other secondary stats dont do.
  1. Caeth's Avatar
    Versatility: boring idea or most boring idea?
  1. Schwert's Avatar
    Movement speed needs to be scrapped for PvP.
    No matter how "minor" they make it ranged are most likely going to be compelled to stack it as much as possible to kite melee and melee in turn need to stack it in order to keep on them.

    Not to mention the night elf racial.
    At least that would have been fine if it didn't stack with the boot enchant.

    All these additions seem like they're doing additions for the sake of having them: Which is why they're doing an ability prune in the first place.
    These aren't needed and aren't going to do any good.
  1. Mokoshne's Avatar
    looks really good.

    i think movement in pvp needs to be balanced.
  1. Ryme's Avatar
    Wow, they actually added a stat that's basically "power" - how many more slippery slope counter arguments are they going to run into the ground?

    Bonus armor feels lame, losing amplify sucks but I can deal. Really sad about readiness going though, that's a real shame they couldn't get it to work.
  1. YumYum's Avatar
    Seems like it will be a neutered version of the D3 itemization.
  1. Marema's Avatar
    All this tells me is that even if WoD does come out in December, we're 6 months away from a release and they're still working on stats.

    I figured that they would at least have that stuff squared away.
  1. Bisso's Avatar
    They always have trouble with some stats scaling to a troubling level, like readiness. Yet they never think about putting them on a static value, like Indestructible is. Basically if you don't want readiness to become too strong, why don't you make these stats on a static pool, no matter the ilvl. So that if you can only have 10% readiness from all the gear slots in the first raid tier, that 10% cap remains by the end of the expansion, and just make it minor.
  1. Wishblade's Avatar
    Looks great, glad to see Readiness go really. Wasn't a fan of reduced CD's, I like them being at a certain point. So yay for changes!

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