Warforged Nightmare - Available Now In-Game Through the Shop

to date i make no one click on the ingame shop button and i will NEVER buy anything from this dump milking resource!

I have been levelling and playing "another MMO" for the last two weeks while still raiding in WoW, I have played WoW since Beta, I have prepaid game time until August and I have prepurchased Warlords.

The 'more content more often' BS has left a bad taste in my mouth, and my most recent interaction with Game Master support ended with me stating 'So the improved service is actually worse for the customer?' I won't go into that, but there are many things that I am dissatisfied with in game at the moment. SoO is the last content in this xpac, released on 10th of September 2013, there is no way Warlords will be released before September, so once again we will have the same end of expansion content for over a year.

So to summarise: Crap content release rate, customer service decline, overpriced store purchases milking the userbase, nonsensical time travel lore xpac when I suspect a lot of people were waiting on some cool assault on the legion homeworld ala the Wrathion hints. I really think blizzard missed the bullseye on this one.

Although I have never bought store content, the principal of the mount price has been the straw that has broken this particular donkey's back - I will be requesting a refund for my wife and I's purchases of Warlords when I get home from work tonight. The last 10 years has been a blast and great value entertainment, hats off to Blizzard for that, but I think it's time to bow out.

I might end up playing WoD if the endgame of the new MMO we're playing isn't up to scratch, but I hope it turns out to be fun, interesting and a challenge - loving everything else in it so far.

More content more often = More store mounts with higher price. I'm so glad I quit this game before last pandaland patch and it looks like there is still no reason to come back. They're just milking the cash cow while there is still some milk left, gotta keep the shareholders happy. Luckily you wonderful people are still supporting them so we cant advance in any good direction.

Originally Posted by Murderdoll

$33 dollars Australian for this?! Thats half the cost of the game ffs.

People need to stop buying this shit so Blizzard stops peddling it out.

The only thing people "need" to do is stop being so arrogant, self centered and self important and stop telling people how to spend their money "ffs". The lot of you sound like petulant pathetic crying children that isn't getting what they want. WHAAAAA, THERE'S A MOUNT ON THE STORE THAT TOOK TIME AWAY FROM WOD DEVELOPMENT (even though it's not the same fucking team) You guys need to stop being so immature and get over yourselves.

Originally Posted by Doomchicken

The only thing people "need" to do is stop being so arrogant, self centered and self important and stop telling people how to spend their money "ffs". The lot of you sound like petulant pathetic crying children that isn't getting what they want. WHAAAAA, THERE'S A MOUNT ON THE STORE THAT TOOK TIME AWAY FROM WOD DEVELOPMENT (even though it's not the same fucking team) You guys need to stop being so immature and get over yourselves.

The guy you quoted never mentioned anything about time taken away from wod development. As long as people buy store items, Blizzard has a reason to put these items up for sale, rather than making them available in game without having to pay extra for it. And that's a valid point. If you read your post again, you may find it a lot more immature than the post you have quoted.

Originally Posted by Scorpio9

Hello!

I have a good job, a beautiful girlfriend and a successful life. i enjoy WoW since its out 2004, as its a wonderful game! when i feel the game is not offering enough new things for me to do i just unsub, enjoy the other parts of my successful and joyful life and just return when blizzard created new content. i don't have to mention i didnt pay a buck while i was unsubbed and not playing and doing something else then playing a computer game (aka living and learning not whine and cry and complain about trivial, actually more then unimportant things).

And know what? i ONLY pay 13 eurs a month for my wonderful hobby that offers me hours and hours and hours of leisure time. As i have a job that pays quite OKish i even have 25 eur for a nice little ride in this computer game, imagine that!!!. Thanks Blizzard that you put this one store so i can also use such a mount as i dont have the time and energy to hardcore raid, where most of the other cool mounts drop and you're lucky as hell.

Thanks Blizz that you enrich my freetime and leisure life for that little money so much and all the best for you. Keep goin'!

Well, you tried to me that logical, objective and intelligent...and then you killed it all with that hilarious last sentence. A few pixels that you will likely not even use much(except when you are afk at next expansions main city) are enriching your freetime and leisure life SO MUCH...for that LITTLE money($30). NERD!

Originally Posted by Halanad

Look up Grinning Reaver on Wowhead. Someone asked where the mount would come from and a blue confirmed "It will be purchased from the in-game store, however a price has not yet been decided."

I saw that post, and I still disagree. That wasn't a blue, but just a customer service rep. There's no official announcement of that being confirmed a store mount, so either they're talking out of their ass or discussing information they shouldn't be yet. I'm going to go with they're just not good at their job at this point, and wait to see if the other mount is a store mount.

Originally Posted by magnoberta

The guy you quoted never mentioned anything about time taken away from wod development. As long as people buy store items, Blizzard has a reason to put these items up for sale, rather than making them available in game without having to pay extra for it. And that's a valid point. If you read your post again, you may find it a lot more immature than the post you have quoted.

I think his comment wasn't solely directed at the quoted source. There's a lot of people posting that they feel content was lost because of this mount. Like...you know...somehow the who WoW team sits around a compute designing a mount.

Originally Posted by OriginZero

I think his comment wasn't solely directed at the quoted source. There's a lot of people posting that they feel content was lost because of this mount. Like...you know...somehow the who WoW team sits around a compute designing a mount.

Yeah, fair enough. You're probably right.
It's a scary thought though, if Blizzard have a dedicated team for store items. Doesn't sound promising for the future

Originally Posted by Doomchicken

The only thing people "need" to do is stop being so arrogant, self centered and self important and stop telling people how to spend their money "ffs". The lot of you sound like petulant pathetic crying children that isn't getting what they want. WHAAAAA, THERE'S A MOUNT ON THE STORE THAT TOOK TIME AWAY FROM WOD DEVELOPMENT (even though it's not the same fucking team) You guys need to stop being so immature and get over yourselves.

I mean it ain't exactly logical to make two teams and then tell one team to do "this"(main content of the game that generates monthly money) and the other to do "that"(completely unimportant additional money grab)...and then argueing that the dudes on "that" can not help the dudes on "this" cause they are not in the same team.
WHY are they not on the same team???? Are they just on different teams to give guys like you a stupid reason?

Originally Posted by magnoberta

The guy you quoted never mentioned anything about time taken away from wod development. As long as people buy store items, Blizzard has a reason to put these items up for sale, rather than making them available in game without having to pay extra for it. And that's a valid point. If you read your post again, you may find it a lot more immature than the post you have quoted.

It was a generalized thing aimed at him and others like him combining multiple points. I'm not spending large amounts of time going back and finding every post that HAS said what I was against as well as what I was against in his post, which was telling people what to do with their money. If he personally doesn't like it FINE. Thats his own opinion. Telling someone to stop spending their money on what they want is a douchebag move.

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Originally Posted by Pacster

I mean it ain't exactly logical to make two teams and then tell one team to do "this"(main content of the game that generates monthly money) and the other to do "that"(completely unimportant additional money grab)...and then argueing that the dudes on "that" can not help the dudes on "this" cause they are not in the same team.
WHY are they not on the same team???? Are they just on different teams to give guys like you a stupid reason?

They're on different teams because they have different jobs. It's a common myth that if you add more people to a team, any team that every person added increases effeciency, when in the real world it doesn't work like that. Because when you add people to a team of stuff already in development you have to spend more time bring people up to speed, telling them what they need to do and so forth and so forth instead of getting the people already on the job to do that job that they're already doing.

Also you've made a CRITICAL mistake. The team that makes the cash shop mounts, is also in charge of making the other mounts in the game as well. The same team that made the Skyreaver also made the Normal mode garrosh kill Kor'kron war wolf. The same team that made this new horse also made the Korkron juggernaut (the one that drops off heroic garrosh). The same team that made the MoP rep mounts also made the dragonfairy mount thing. Gutting that team means you'll have less mounts for WoD cash shop and otherwise.

The team that makes the mounts doesn't get to choose what goes in the shop and what drops in game, that's the decision of their employers.

$37.02 converted from GBP. What a bargain.

Originally Posted by Doomchicken

Also you've made a CRITICAL mistake. The team that makes the cash shop mounts, is also in charge of making the other mounts in the game as well. The same team that made the Skyreaver also made the Normal mode garrosh kill Kor'kron war wolf. The same team that made this new horse also made the Korkron juggernaut (the one that drops off heroic garrosh). The same team that made the MoP rep mounts also made the dragonfairy mount thing. Gutting that team means you'll have less mounts for WoD cash shop and otherwise.

The team that makes the mounts doesn't get to choose what goes in the shop and what drops in game, that's the decision of their employers.

No mistake and it does not help to tell the obvious. The thing is that you hire a designer and then tell him what to do...and if you tell him to produce a new mount and pet every mount of which 33% end up on shop, 34% end up for "free"(just a game purchase and a monthly fee...if you wanna call that for free) in the game and 33% as "invite a friend"/blizzcon etc. then that is a decision by Blizz. They could as well make him spend 100% of the time on game content for all. But as long as Blizz executives can earn ****loads of money from shop sales and char transfers and safe a lot of money by cutting back ingame support(be it by cutting back on GM powers so they can do less and as a result you need less GMs cause they always just have to post the same generic dozen of answers....or be it by not fighting bots anymore, which does not only mean that you need less support but as well means that you still get the monthly money from the bot accounts)....why should they do more than just promising addon after addon that during the next one all will be better? As long as people keep paying money this will go on....actually getting worse and worse(see increased number of ingame shop releases and prices). Sooner or later that system will break down cause more and more customers notice what is going on....and a massively multiplayer game snowballs once too many people leave.

My classic account will run out by the end of the month and I'm currently thinking of finally selling it before nobody wants it(and about 3million gold on it) anymore if the WoW demise gets worse...

Originally Posted by Nexsa

As for me, I bought it. People waste money on smoking, drinking, eating more food then required, buying real life things they don't need and hardly use. This is no different. It's not needed and if anyone wishes to spend their money they worked for on it, so let them.

There are 2 problems about this store mounts.
1. You already pay money (your monthly fee + the basic games + the add ons) to have content. Yes mounts are content, also pets, armors or anything you could work for / desire for ingame.
2. The price of the mounts (not just this one) is absolutly over the top... its a reskinned horse with some sparkle effects. Even if it would have a new skeleton with new animations and a new skin it wouldnt be worth more then 10 Bucks in games where you dont pay the stuff i already said in point 1.

Its like you pay 10 bucks for a glass of water in a bar where you already payed 30 bucks to enter AND pay 10 bucks each hour your there to stay there...

Glad to see that with all of the things wrong with the world; you idiots choose to complain about a virtual game item that has zero effect on anything real.

Good job! Here's some advice: If you feel that strongly about something as idiotic as a virtual mount, it's time for you to throw the computer out the window and go out into the real world.

Originally Posted by Goretex

because people buy in game mounts lol that is hillarious!

Because of the direction Blizzard are going :P

I dont dislike the game, i just dislike Blizzards content draughts. They've given up caring about subs and have instead gone down this route.

Originally Posted by Pacster

No mistake and it does not help to tell the obvious. The thing is that you hire a designer and then tell him what to do...and if you tell him to produce a new mount and pet every mount of which 33% end up on shop, 34% end up for "free"(just a game purchase and a monthly fee...if you wanna call that for free) in the game and 33% as "invite a friend"/blizzcon etc. then that is a decision by Blizz. They could as well make him spend 100% of the time on game content for all. But as long as Blizz executives can earn ****loads of money from shop sales and char transfers and safe a lot of money by cutting back ingame support(be it by cutting back on GM powers so they can do less and as a result you need less GMs cause they always just have to post the same generic dozen of answers....or be it by not fighting bots anymore, which does not only mean that you need less support but as well means that you still get the monthly money from the bot accounts)....why should they do more than just promising addon after addon that during the next one all will be better? As long as people keep paying money this will go on....actually getting worse and worse(see increased number of ingame shop releases and prices). Sooner or later that system will break down cause more and more customers notice what is going on....and a massively multiplayer game snowballs once too many people leave.

My classic account will run out by the end of the month and I'm currently thinking of finally selling it before nobody wants it(and about 3million gold on it) anymore if the WoW demise gets worse...

There's a grand total of 8 mounts currently in the store out of about 280. Good math. Good snowball logic there too.

They have done and continue to do banwaves of bots. Just because all bots aren't gone doesn't mean no bots go. Or what, you'd prefer if they list every single account name that they ban so they can "prove" they are doing something?

The only thing that you've said that has had any logic is you saying you're thinking of quitting, because that's really the only option if you actually want Blizzard to hear your "feedback."

I'm definitely buying Blizzard stocks. They sure know how to make money.

Originally Posted by Goretex

Why? if someone likes it they have the right to buy it if they want. How does it exactly effect your gameplay?

You have the right to buy whatever you want just like others have the right to form an opinion on the subject even if they aren't personally affected and you have a right to disagree with those opinions.

Aren't rights awesome?

Originally Posted by Marema

Glad to see that with all of the things wrong with the world; you idiots choose to complain about a virtual game item that has zero effect on anything real.

Good job! Here's some advice: If you feel that strongly about something as idiotic as a virtual mount, it's time for you to throw the computer out the window and go out into the real world.

Yes. How dare these people express opinions about a video game on a goddamn video game forum.

This is so pathetic to witness.

Enough with the damn shop already, in your sub MMO. Respect for Blizzard just plummeting over these past few years.

Is there ever going to be a time where I see a new, unique mount on MMO front page, and not instantly know that it's a shop / promotion? So sad.

I guess we will be getting another re-skin as a reward for the hardest content in the game?