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Warlords of Draenor - Mage and Monk Tier 17 Armor Sets
The latest alpha build added the Mythic version of the Mage and Monk Tier 17 Armor sets.

Warlords of Draenor changes things up slightly by using one set of art for Raid Finder, one set of art for Normal and Heroic, and one set of art for Mythic difficulty. You can find the Raid Finder armor sets in our Raid Finder armor sets preview.









Bloody Coin Hotfix Clarifications
Recently, several changes have been made to how Bloody Coins are acquired. Lore provided some more information on the changes recently.
Originally Posted by Lore
"more atractive" reads higher rate of acquiring them or chance to gain on HK as well as KB? And could you share the actual chances?
Previously, there was a 10 second ICD on getting a coin from a killing blow. That's been reduced significantly.
You'll only hit the ICD now if you're up to some serious exploit-y shenanigans. (Source)
But will there be any chance of getting one on a HK? Healers would like to get coins too you know
Spoke with dev: not technically feasible atm. Opens up a ton of potential exploits (ie: AFK farming coins)
Would have to significantly rework the entire Bloody Coin mechanic to avoid those issues.
BUT: We recognize that healers got the short end here, and it's a lesson learned for the future.
So....besides Ashran then, any hope for us getting those coin rewards then short of pew pew?
Not for Bloody Coins, unfortunately. But we'll do better in future mechanics. (Source)

Patch 5.4.8 Hotfixes - June 13
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Items
  • Censer of Eternal Agony now has a cooldown of 1 hour when used (up from 10 minutes).
  • Fire-Watcher's Oath now has a cooldown of 10 minutes (down from 1 hour) and costs 100 Timeless Coins to purchase (costs 50 Bloody Coins previously). The Ordon Fire-Watcher transformation now allows mount usage and Druid shapeshifting and significantly reduced the internal cooldown on earning Bloody Coins.

Timeless Isle
  • Non-rare creatures and NPCs on lower areas of Timeless Isle should now respawn more frequently.

US Connected Realms - Update 6/13
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
As previously announced, we’ve been working toward connecting realms to increase the number of players on low-population realms, and since then have completed several connections. As a part of our ongoing communication, we wanted to provide you with an update that contains a list of completed realm connections, currently planned connections, and any additional future plans in one convenient location.

*Please note this list does not encompass all potential future connections. Please check back for further updates.

Future Connections
We will be connecting the realms listed below on Thursday, June 19 during a scheduled maintenance beginning at 5 a.m. PDT through approximately 1:00 p.m. PDT. Once maintenance is finished, these realm connections will be complete.

  • Blackwater Raiders and Shadow Council
  • Grizzly Hills and Lothar
  • Tanaris and Greymane

We will be connecting the realms listed below on Thursday, June 26 during a scheduled maintenance beginning at 5 a.m. PDT through approximately 1:00 p.m. PDT. Once maintenance is finished, these realm connections will be complete.

  • Alterac Mountains and Balnazzar, Gorgonnash, The Forgotten Coast,and Warsong
  • Gnomeregan and Moonrunner

We do not have a date for the following realm connections, but will update this post when we do.

  • Doomhammer and Baelgun
  • The Scryers and Argent Dawn

*Plans for these connections may change at any time, but we’ll provide additional updates on specific dates for future connections here as we can. Please note that as a part of the connection process realm times may change to match each other.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Does resolve have reduced gains when tanking multiple targets? Or is that done since it isn't cheesing DPS?
Currently, yes. (Celestalon)

Any chance you could allow potions to not break stealth so it is easier to pre-pot and get an opener?
Yes. (Celestalon)

Death Knight (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Without Heart Strike, what's going to make Blood DKs attacks different from Unholy in WoD?
I don't really understand. They have hardly any overlap at all. (Celestalon)
Aside from the passive fx of blood, using Pest and Death Strike, and filling with Death Coil doesn't really seem dif from UH
Death Coil is similar. Pestilence is shared but used in completely different ways. Everything else is completely different. (Celestalon)

Hunter (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Do Aimed Shot MultiStrikes benefit from Careful Aim? Is this behavior consistent with similar circumstances?
Yes. Yes. (Celestalon)

Rogue (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
any chance that you combine recuperate n slice into a single spell to facilitate use rogue finishmoves, giving us a bit of surv
It's a good choice that you have to make between offense and defense. (holinka)

Warlock (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
are you taking out the warlock green fire quest in 6.0?
Nope. (WatcherDev)
And you get a Feat of Strength in 6.0 for having completed it before then?
Before Draenor unlocks, yes. (WatcherDev)

Art
With Garrosh gone, why are most of Horde buildings still following this horrendous "Ten thousand iron spike" idea?
Garrosh didn't invent spikes, WC3 orc farm was spiky before it was cool. (Muffinus)
But, not iron buildings, steel spikes, dried molten rooftops.. It was made with tents, wooden spikes... Tribal - not metallic.
Consider it the industrial revolution for the horde (Muffinus)

Warlords of Draenor Stats
Is Versatility not the best stat for fistweavers?
Not the best healing throughput stat; it doesn't double-dip. (Celestalon)

(1/2) If an ability critically hits and procs MS, does MS do 30% of crit or 30% of normal hit dmg. Seems that crit is the only
The damage (including crit or not) of the initial hit has no impact of the damage of the multistrike hit. Separate damage roll (Celestalon)

How will haste effect our GCDs in WoD? With OP gone our quick filler at 1 sec will make us feel clunky =/
Haste reduces your GCD. (Celestalon)

PvE
what gets me is, JP acquisition is TOO LOW pre nerf, wtf?
When is the last time either of you direct-queued (NOT random) for a Normal mode scenario? (WatcherDev)

when i tried grinding JP for heirlooms, I gave up quickly because of high costs, and low JP rates.
How long ago was that? Nowadays you get 100 JP per individual dungeon boss. (WatcherDev)

is it me or doesn't the tentacle showing up mean its part of the old gods
The Twilight's Hammer cultists are deeply connected to the Old Gods, and they're the ones who occupy BFD. (WatcherDev)

Will revamped BFD/RFD/RFK have level 100 H/CM versions, or just their existing low-level ones?
Low-level only; just showing some love to a few dungeons that felt a bit dated. (WatcherDev)

PvP
With all the requests for skirmishes through the years you all better play the ever loving crap out of them now that they're in game. (holinka)

Thought you guys were looking to improve PvP participation. Making the sets identical feels really lazy.
I love how people throw the word "lazy" around without any insight into how hard people are working. (holinka)

are we really going back to where the PvP gear is the same exact model as the PvE gear in WoD? If so why?
Armor sets have lost a lot of aspirational value at the high end. We want higher tier content to reward cooler looking gear. (holinka)
So to clarify the tier 17 armor sets are also the season 16 PvP armor sets?
Yes, but Mythic looks better than Normal/Heroic and Elite looks better than normal conquest. Also, it's Warlords Season 1. (holinka)

Any plan to add some missing old school pvp stuff? (first cata set, boot belt bracers,LK pvp and MoP weapon)?thx for answr
We'd like to, just a lot of other work that feels more important. (holinka)

.since it's been a bit over a week, any news on how the free faction changed has been working so far?
My understanding is that there hasn't been any significant problems with the process. (holinka)

So because Mythic difficulty gets different models, PvP gets gimped with re-used PvE models now? Come on
By your logic, you could say because Elite gear gets different models, PvE gets gimped with re-used PvP models. (holinka)
PvP is not getting the short end of the stick. Higher skill/commitment is being further rewarded in PvP & PvE. (holinka)
Mythic difficulty AND Elite PvP gear gets different models. This is a really strange attitude you're coming from (holinka)
I would rather see PvP get different models and Elite get a recolor of those models instead of PvE>PvP recolor.
that's what we have now and it's underwhelming. (holinka)
Better rewards for top players is awesome and i applaud it, but recolored PvE sets for 95%> of all PvPers is also underwhelming.
Calling them "recolored PvE sets" is a huge mis-characterization. (holinka)
I feel like this could use some clarification. Mythic and elite pvp use same model/different color or no?
different color (holinka)

is Ashran playable in the alpha yet? If not will you let us know when it is? WTB Ashran blog!!!
It isn't ready for public testing yet...but we're about to do our largest internal test to date. Does that help? (holinka)

I mean, do you plan to squish the entire thing more if necessary ?
We wanted to shrink base resilience down to 0% which meant inflating health pools more than originally expected. (holinka)

Is pvp power necessary with different pvp and pve ilvls?
Nope (holinka)

Reputation / Questing
Ah I still have so much to explore in Frostfire. Hit 92, think 4/6 story done, but so many things to still hunt down!
Exploratory gaming is huge for us this round, hope you're finding it fun! We're not nearly done though >=] (Muffinus)

when my pet kills a mob on its own, I don't get loot.. will this ever be changed? really annoying when soloing old stuff
Unlikely to change that; it'd expose exploits. (Celestalon)
is that the same reason it happens with other "non active" sources; lightning shield, etc?
Yes. Damage that you can do with no input should not count for loot rights. Prevents afk farming. (Celestalon)

World
Yes there are rare spawns, lots of them, more than ever before! (Muffinus)
If they are common, can they be rare?
Levelup rares are meant to be encountered, endgame are more rare. (Muffinus)
Currently in alpha once a rare is killed its respawn isnt rare to that character anymore. Is this what you meant by "encountered"?
Yep! You always get the reward the first time, no need to farm it for loot/XP (plenty others to hunt), visually represented. (Muffinus)
A lot of the alpha rares need their "no-tap" flag set, they should all operate like Timeless Isle rares. (Muffinus)

Costumes Update
Blizzard has updated the costume gallery with Warcraft-themed costumes featuring the creations of Caitlyn Culpepper.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Mage and Monk Mythic Tier 17, June 13 Hotfixes, US Connected Realms, Blue Tweets started by chaud View original post
Published on 2014-06-15 02:44 PM
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  1. mmoc26966749d9's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by thebdc View Post
    I don't like the monk set. Looks like they forgot leg day.
    Far as pants and boots are concerned it's painfully obvious that they are striving for that kind of look, and it works for me.
  1. Zylos's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draxz View Post
    Seems like the new guy Holinka is kinda a dink? Always being short and to the point with most everyone and not really being "PR"ish at all. I get the point to some things, but most are very rude these days. That being said I'm not sure how he thinks PvE and PvP getting the same models just different colors isn't "lazy" or "poor" design.
    Holinka isn't new really

    When wotlk rolled around people complained about the arena sets not looking like tier sets any more, this is the exact opposite.

    I happen to agree with holinka and I don't see how it really matters. On the one hand having unique pvp sets can be cool and they often have a different style.

    On the other hand PvE sets often look pretty awesome and having more recolors can be really neat. The BC sets were all pretty cool looking and I love having the different color scheme options for all of those sets.
  1. Mellrod's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by thebdc View Post
    I don't like the monk set. Looks like they forgot leg day.
    ??? I don't understand this reference.

    I think it looks amazing. Definitely look alot more monk-like than the regular version. Especially with the fist on the shoulders and the jade/chi energies that come seeping out of the armor. I love how they made the shoulder and gloves look like one piece. The giant stone arms definitely look good on a monk since they'll be punching you with that.

    I only wish they would make more armor look like one piece. Specifically shoulders, capes, and hoods so they would look like an actual huntsman/assassin creed-esque cloak and not separate pieces. That'd definitely be good to have in this game. But considering how slow blizzard is at discovering simple aesthetics like this, it wont be for another 3 expansions before this happens.. .
  1. Trolandw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draxz View Post
    Seems like the new guy Holinka is kinda a dink? Always being short and to the point with most everyone and not really being "PR"ish at all. I get the point to some things, but most are very rude these days. That being said I'm not sure how he thinks PvE and PvP getting the same models just different colors isn't "lazy" or "poor" design.
    But you have to remember that now they are making 3 sets for raiding instead of just one. So if they keep it up with all raids, they'll actually be making 1 more set than previously. And they might make more transmog sets like the dark shaman set from SoO
  1. billielecter's Avatar
    It seems like blues are having tough time dealing unsatisfied player-base. Maybe Bliizard should think about why they are drifting away from the highway of good game.
  1. Ealyssa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mellrod View Post
    ??? I don't understand this reference.
    Fitness reference, for people doing some sports.

    "forgeting leg day" mean someone with the upper body overly developed compared to their legs.
    Cause training legs is hard pussies skip it (jk).
  1. Xanwryn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by billielecter View Post
    It seems like blues are having tough time dealing unsatisfied player-base. Maybe Bliizard should think about why they are drifting away from the highway of good game.
    Not that it matters since it's highly likely people will just transmog out of those sets like they did for a good portion of the Pandaria sets.

    You would think the simple act of transmogging over your new artwork would be a wake-up call to the artists. When players like the old designs better that should really mean something; it should be a slap in the face.
  1. Lolsteak's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Trolandw View Post
    But you have to remember that now they are making 3 sets for raiding instead of just one. So if they keep it up with all raids, they'll actually be making 1 more set than previously. And they might make more transmog sets like the dark shaman set from SoO
    They're not making 3 sets, they're making one base set and modifying it.
  1. Expectations's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolsteak View Post
    They're not making 3 sets, they're making one base set and modifying it.
    Prime example of someone that has no idea what is going on.
  1. Daralii's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Xanwryn View Post
    Not that it matters since it's highly likely people will just transmog out of those sets like they did for a good portion of the Pandaria sets.

    You would think the simple act of transmogging over your new artwork would be a wake-up call to the artists. When players like the old designs better that should really mean something; it should be a slap in the face.
    So until no one uses Transmog, the artists are failures. Okay.
  1. Trolandw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolsteak View Post
    They're not making 3 sets, they're making one base set and modifying it.
    Which is exactly what they did with pvp sets in wrath, but no one seemed to really mind then, and sure, they look similar and have the same theme as a base (except for lfr sets), but that doesn't mean that one took less time and effort than the other. They had to draw out each set individually then create it on their computers.

    And if the poster after you is talking about me, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't played the game in over three years, so I'm okay with being wrong about a game I haven't played for so long
  1. Laylriana's Avatar
    Tanaris is Eastern Time and Greymane is Central Time. Will they each keep their time zone or will one be moved to the other?
  1. SteveZombie's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenjen View Post
    i so need those shoulders and arms for my morg.
    What's a morg?

    Unrelated, I like this new Holinka. Stupid assholes are never going to listen to reason, they'll keep asking the same stupid questions and throwing around now-meaningless terms; - 'lazy' being the latest - it's time to get mad and tell it like it freaking is.
  1. Coconut's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zylos View Post
    On the other hand PvE sets often look pretty awesome and having more recolors can be really neat. The BC sets were all pretty cool looking and I love having the different color scheme options for all of those sets.
    Except we already had 3 recolors between LFR and Heroic. Now we'll have two, and Elite PvP will be removed after each season and very likely out of reach of people who are simply interested in customization through recolors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trolandw View Post
    Which is exactly what they did with pvp sets in wrath, but no one seemed to really mind then, and sure, they look similar and have the same theme as a base (except for lfr sets), but that doesn't mean that one took less time and effort than the other. They had to draw out each set individually then create it on their computers.

    And if the poster after you is talking about me, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I haven't played the game in over three years, so I'm okay with being wrong about a game I haven't played for so long
    And how many people are using the early sets for transmog, in comparison to the final ones? S8 gear looks good, S6 is almost like leveling greens. There's an expected level of detail for a tier set. If you produce sets below those standards, even if they are made from scratch and completely original, players are not going to transmog into them very often. See MSV and MoP dungeon gear... WoD Normal gear looks drab in comparison to Mythic.
  1. Trolandw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Coconut View Post
    Except we already had 3 recolors between LFR and Heroic. Now we'll have two, and Elite PvP will be removed after each season and very likely out of reach of people who are simply interested in customization through recolors.

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    And how many people are using the early sets for transmog, in comparison to the final ones? S8 gear looks good, S6 is almost like leveling greens. There's an expected level of detail for a tier set. If you produce sets below those standards, even if they are made from scratch and completely original, players are not going to transmog into them very often. See MSV and MoP dungeon gear... WoD Normal gear looks drab in comparison to Mythic.
    Like I said, I haven't played for 3 years, I have no idea who's using what. That's not the point I was trying to make. What seemed to me like a complaint was that they are just updating the sets off of a theme. They've done it before, back before transmog even existed, and no one seemed to complain then (from what I remember). Just because a set doesn't look better than t6, which a good number of people believe to be the best sets ever, people claim that it's ugly or that blizzard's art team sucks. Not every new set has to be the next greatest thing. My favorite shaman set has always been t2, even though many have come out with much more detail and were much more complicated, and they look great, but I'd still prefer t2. Doesn't mean t20 is ugly. I rather like the sets we have been shown and think blizzard's art team is rather creative, creating sets for 9-11, sometimes double that for pvp, classes every 6 months or so for the past ten years, for one single game. If you want ugly, go see swtor sets. Everything about them was ugly or boring. In my opinion, that game is completely characterless and flavorless, and pales in comparison to wow, in just about every way.
  1. Mukki's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveZombie View Post
    What's a morg?
    People have a hard time reading and understanding the simple fact that transmogrification is spelled as such, so they add an extra 'r' in the 'mog' part in an attempt to help their minds cope.
  1. Gohzerlock's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Draxz View Post
    Seems like the new guy Holinka is kinda a dink? Always being short and to the point with most everyone and not really being "PR"ish at all. I get the point to some things, but most are very rude these days. That being said I'm not sure how he thinks PvE and PvP getting the same models just different colors isn't "lazy" or "poor" design.
    A lot of questions asked get a smug response, he's not really new. I like that mythic and pvp elite gear get different models, I just don't think it should be at the cost of pvp armor having no identity beyond a different color than pve gear.

    I also thought blizz didn't wanna put a ton of work into rewarding a smaller population of subs, but whatever. Guess i'll aim to get mythic and pvp elite gear.
  1. Kakotan2143's Avatar
    sigh, I Am a cloth wearing mage. I Am so fed up of the same crap tier armor they always make, never any tunics and stuff hanging from them that is painted onto the robe, its stupid, then on top of all of that they put huge stupid looking shoulder pads. That looks awful and doesn't fit with the cloth look at all. I'm so fed up with this crap that looks the same over and over and over again. WHY Cant the WoW artist make something new and nice for cloth wearers?
  1. Zephinism's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Laylriana View Post
    Tanaris is Eastern Time and Greymane is Central Time. Will they each keep their time zone or will one be moved to the other?
    Tanaris will become CST and move physical location from New York to Chicago. The armory will also be buggy for all Tanaris players for a little while.
  1. mmocd8f86ed6f0's Avatar
    please tell me that mage tier will go live as is,
    I look forward to running round on my gnome going "WoooWooooWoooo neeee Nahhhhh Neeeee Nahhhhh" Giving people speeding tickets and beating a few perps up.
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