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Warlords of Draenor - Garrisons: Trading Post
Today we are taking a look at the Trading Post garrison building. Currently only the first two tiers are accessible on beta.

The Trading Post take up a Medium plot which can also be used for a Barn, Gladiator's Sanctum, Lumber Mill or Inn / Tavern. Once upgraded to Tier 3, your garrison will have two Medium plots available.

Abilities
This building is good for farming and spending excess crafting reagents or garrison materials, using the auction house, earning reputation faster, and transmog gear.

  • Level 1 - Allows the trade of crafting reagents for garrison resources and vice versa, for a profit!
  • Level 2 - Enables access to the auction house. Also grants access to the Shattari Defense or Laughing Skull factions.
  • Level 3 - Increases reputation gain in Draenor by 20%.

Reagent Conversion
Keep in mind this is beta and a server designed to test garrisons, so final numbers can change!

  • Trade ~10 of a randomly selected crafting reagent for 100 garrison resources.
  • Purchase a stack of 5 crafting reagents for 10 - 40 garrison resources.
  • If you purchase the crafting reagents for a work order, you have a net gain of 20 - 80 garrison resources.



Auction House
Access to the auction house doesn't come automatically, as the robot auctioneer is lying on the floor broken. You need to complete the Auctioning for Parts quest, which requires collecting parts to build modules for the robot. The parts come from garrison invasions, dungeons, Ashran, and the mobs in the Draenor zones. You can also purchase the parts, as they are not bind on pickup.



Interface Art



Alliance - Sha'tari Defense Vendor
The Alliance will have access to a Sha'tari Defense vendor in the level 2 and 3 Trading Post. Unfortunately the NPC doesn't appear to be in game yet, so we listed the likely Sha'tari Defense items below.



Level Type Slot Name
600TabardTabard Sha'tari Defense Tabard
600PlateHead Greathelm of the Sha'tari Defense
600PlateShoulders Shoulderguards of the Sha'tari Defense
600PlateChest Breastplate of the Sha'tari Defense
600PlateWaist Belt of the Sha'tari Defense
600PlateLegs Legplates of the Sha'tari Defense
600PlateFeet Boots of the Sha'tari Defense
600PlateWrists Bracers of the Sha'tari Defense
600CosmeticHands Gauntlets of the Sha'tari Defense


Horde - Laughing Skull Vendor
The Horde will have access to a Laughing Skull vendor in the level 2 and 3 Trading Post. This is a list of the items it currently has for sale.


Level Type Slot Name
1Companion Pets Bone Wasp
615TrinketTrinket Maniacal Grimace
600TabardTabard Laughing Skull Orcs Tabard
1ClothHead Frozen Visage of the Laughing Skull
1ClothHead Bloody Visage of the Laughing Skul
1ClothHead Golden Visage of the Laughing Skull
1ClothHead Visage of the Laughing Skull
100Consumable Laughing Skull Elixir


Level 1 Alliance Screenshots


Level 2 Alliance Screenshots


Level 1 Horde Screenshots


Level 2 Horde Screenshots



FEEDBACK: Highmaul - Arcane Sanctum (LFR)
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We will soon be opening the second wing of Highmaul Raid Finder (Tectus, Twin Ogron, Ko'ragh), and leaving it open over the weekend. These fights are likely overtuned - Ko'ragh definitely is, but we have some changes in the pipeline that will be picked up by restarts tonight. We'll be watching closely to make the required tweaks to get the experience to where it needs to be.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Epicurean Change Reverted
Thanks for the feedback. The change to Epicurean is being reverted on Beta.

Yeah, we actually decided not to make some changes we were considering. Epicurean is returning to 100%. - @Celestalon (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
want to bring back the healthstone discussion. Whats the point of making them obsolete? Why must they be weaker than prof items?
"Tonics>Stones" means that both get used. "TonicsCelestalon)
You left one out. What about Tonics = Stones? Also, what utility will Warlocks have? Gateway is nerfed to hell.
then how come LW drums dont follow the same logic? Shouldn't "Drums>BL/TW/Hero" so you ensure both get used? Same logic
No; we don't want Drums to be used normally; they're backups. It'd mandate everyone take Leatherworking. (Celestalon)
Whereas Tonics are created by a profession that everyone can have, and are tradeable and usable by anyone (even w/o FA). (Celestalon)
There's no LW restriction on Drums of Rage. I can go buy them off the AH same as Healing Tonics
Drums are designed to be different. A backup, not a primary source, obsoleting a raid buff brought by several classes. (Celestalon)
I understand that the distinction may be hard to see, but it's very intentional. Tonics are the primary reason for... (Celestalon)
...First Aid to be valuable in Warlords. Healthstones are a minor perk to a class, like Mage food, not a raid buff. (Celestalon)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Another related change: Tower of Radiance is supposed to be a consolation prize. Beacon healing should win. (Celestalon)
1 Holy Power is just too strong, nowadays, compared to the Beacon healing. So, we're planning to change... (Celestalon)
...Tower of Radiance to restore Mana instead of Holy Power; a tunable amount. (Celestalon)

Rogue (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Please remove Burst of Speed. It promotes horrible gameplay
Rogues are losing the 10 extra energy from their MoP set bonus. On beta the relative cost of BoS has doubled & regen is lower. (holinka)
15 energy cost from a pool of 110 (13.6%) to 25 energy cost from a pool of 100 (25%). (holinka)
And cloak and dagger is left a dead talent again? Step tier seems healthier and popular.
We won't be changing an entire talent row at this stage. (holinka)

They also have a lvl 90 talent which gives them 15 xtra energy and higher regen... The ability honestly needs to have a CD.
Level 100 but I get you. We think there are other ways to manage it than a cooldown. (holinka)

We just don't have many changes to discuss currently; not ignoring or hating. Rogue talents are less impactful than we'd... (Celestalon)
...like, but aren't causing any problems, so aren't at the top of our priority list to redesign right now. (Celestalon)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
New Windstrike/Stormblast animation pales in comparison to the live version...chance we could get it back?
Old one doesn't fit with the wind theme, instead of lightning theme, unfortunately. (Celestalon)
I Err... "the elements. Fire (check). Air (check, lightning falls under this).... " your quote on ele thread.
Wind and Lightning are both part of the 'air' type of Shaman magic. However Lightning is nature damage, wind is physical. (Celestalon)
so the change to physical damage for ascendance was to tone down burst, yes? Is that why it doesn't scale with mastery?
Yes. Scaling burst multipliers are problematic. (Celestalon)
But right now, 20% of our dmg are buffed by 50%.It's just really weak now. Then at least reduce CD to 2min.
Those numbers are not even remotely accurate. It's still quite strong. (Celestalon)

Character / Items
So in WoD what will happen to the valor quest for the cloak?
Removed. (WatcherDev)

Warlords of Draenor Stats
No control over secondary stats, and L100's with different weights - means weak choice of talents: pushes us to one L100 always
But you *do* have a ton of control over secondary stats. (Celestalon)
170 enchants, 200 flask, 50 food = 420 stats, out of ~4k in PvP gear (best case)? 10% stat control. PvE = no control of drops.
A) Those numbers are definitely not accurate. B) You act like you don't have control of stats on gear. Extremely false. (Celestalon)

PvE
is the fix just a numbers nerf? Or are you looking into altering/removing (more) mechanics for the LFR version?
Mostly numbers, plus removing the healing effects of Moss entirely and making Flamethrowers take much longer to overheat. (WatcherDev)

So did the design team decide to go back on Normal 5mans gearing you up for LFR?
I think you misunderstood: Normal Dungeon -> LFR is one path. Heroic Dungeon -> Normal Raid is another. (WatcherDev)

.can we please get more raid trash like Ultraxian and Sindragosa?
I'd always considered those a bit tedious, but if it's what the people want.... (WatcherDev)

can we also defeat the Boss of L/H/N/M after defeated it again in a week? Just no loot, but can farm again?
Not for Mythic, but the other difficulties, yes - they are loot-based lockouts. (WatcherDev)
So it's means that the number of loot based on the number of players who have the right to loot?
Correct. Kill a boss with 25 players, but 20 of them have already killed it once, and you probably only get 1 drop. (WatcherDev)

PvP
I was wondering if you could clarify the future spectator idea. Is the plan to make it so a player can jump into a live game&watch?
No, the idea is for people that want to broadcast tournaments to be able to do so in the live game. (holinka)
any plans on updating the UI to be more new viewer friendly?
Yes but not for release. Just wanted to get this into people's hands as quickly as possible. (holinka)

Ok I still think it'd be really cool to have a client you can jump into live games with.
It has a high implementation cost & in the age of twitch, probably won't see much use. (holinka)

Lore
Why does Kargath die in LFR but live in all other difficulties? Isn't that against the point of "LFR is for the story
It's more "he lived 2 weeks ago when we tested Heroic, but dies now that we're testing LFR." Story change. (WatcherDev)

Will we see any any Worgen lore in WoD? Seems like they got a lot of attention in early cata and have been forgotten since
Worgen are definitely part of the Alliance forces on Draenor, but WoD's story is mostly focused on the Iron Horde threat. (_DonAdams)
I would like to see more Worgen (and Forsaken) lore as well. Their time will come around again, I'm sure. (_DonAdams)

Dear Adams, what's the current status of Ethereals as of WoD? (Really looking forward to seeing more of them!)
They don't really have a presence on Draenor, sorry! They showed up to Outland after it was shattered. (_DonAdams)

So, I'm still unclear with the relationship between the Klaxxi and the Sha. As parts of their god, shouldn't they have been ally?
Klaxxi wanted to maintain their cycle and wait for Y'shaarj himself to come back. They weren't ready to drink the Kool-Aid. (_DonAdams)
So they saw the Empresses inability to resist only an aspect of their god as a weakness and she was deemed unworthy?
Sha is fallout from Y'shaarj's death, but it was still harmful to their cycle (crazy queen, blighted homeland). (_DonAdams)
She was forcing a swarm too soon; corrupting eggs with Sha energy; ruining the kypari. Went off the deep end, threatened cycle. (_DonAdams)
So yes, she was deemed unfit to rule. It's a shame they were ultimately swayed by Y'shaarj's heart, though. (_DonAdams)
Will we ever see them again? Kil'ruk's death quote makes it seem ambiguous if they even die there.
The paragons are near and dear to me, but sadly I think they're actually dead, short of some amber reincarnation miracle. (_DonAdams)

World
could create edges only between the fps you want connected?
I'm fairly sure that that's exactly what it does already. The paths don't exist yet; it'd use them if it did. We'll make them. (Celestalon)

Wowcraft Episode 11 - Warsong Gulch Part 5: Victory!
This is the final episode of Wowcraft for now, as they are taking time to refocus the series.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Garrisons - Trading Post, Highmaul LFR Open, Blue Tweets, Wowcraft #11 started by chaud View original post
Comments 32 Comments
  1. Sostratus's Avatar
    Yay.. no race change needed for my panda <3
  1. sixfifteen2's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sostratus View Post
    Yay.. no race change needed for my panda <3

    you'd race change because of a 25% decrease of a bonus?
  1. Frika's Avatar
    170 enchants, 200 flask, 50 food = 420 stats, out of ~4k in PvP gear (best case)? 10% stat control. PvE = no control of drops.
    A) Those numbers are definitely not accurate. B) You act like you don't have control of stats on gear. Extremely false. (Celestalon)
    Hahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah sure... not accurate at all! MoP stats control-> u get bad stat u use reforge to turn some of it into something useful on the spot! WoD stats control -> U get a bad stat you hope that next week u get the same item drop but with different stat and hope that u can get the item again >.> I am begining to think that Celestalon is lacking basic understanding of words like 'control' 'not' and 'accurate'
  1. Kinkiey's Avatar
    first of all wowcraft <33333

    Second of all so.... what i see now is that beside u put alot of time into making buildings... we will also see alot of grinding items for that special thing that we want (auctioneer)... its wow though ^^ gues ill think about it a few times if its not just more... worth it to just teleport to orgrimmar.
  1. Frika's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkiey View Post
    first of all wowcraft <33333

    Second of all so.... what i see now is that beside u put alot of time into making buildings... we will also see alot of grinding items for that special thing that we want (auctioneer)... its wow though ^^ guess ill think about it a few times if its not just more... worth it to just teleport to orgrimmar.
    you have separated hs for your garnison and for an inn of your choice which gives you the option of hs ogri->hs garnison-> fly to whenever you want. There is no need to waste your building slots for building which u can find in the main city... IF that is what you will build the tradepost for. Not to speak that at the beginning you have limited number of upgrades so upgrading your tradepost to level 2 just to get an ah seems like a waste.
  1. Poysonivy's Avatar
    I wonder if people wont leave their Garrison at the end when all buildings are earned. Wasn't this the first concern that Blizz devs addressed when people asked for player housing.
  1. TheBaron87's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sixfifteen2 View Post
    you'd race change because of a 25% decrease of a bonus?
    Yes, which is precisely why racials should be removed. Imagine if hardcore players could play the race they wanted to like the rest of us.
  1. Zka's Avatar
    These garrison auctioneer subparts drop from dungeon bosses as well (I looted 3 at once here). I think I didn't even have the quest.
  1. Narshe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sixfifteen2 View Post
    you'd race change because of a 25% decrease of a bonus?
    This is a joke, right? Hardcore raiders would easily drop 25 over a 25% increase to stats.
  1. turskanaattori's Avatar
    Dat Aspect of the Cheetah and Scare Beast.
  1. Hiram's Avatar
    .can we please get more raid trash like Ultraxian and Sindragosa?
    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Trolls make it
  1. Laylriana's Avatar
    I haven't seen LW drums used since WOTLK. I don't even know why they are still in the game.
  1. Arvandor's Avatar
    "No control over secondary stats, and L100's with different weights - means weak choice of talents: pushes us to one L100 always
    But you *do* have a ton of control over secondary stats. (Celestalon)
    170 enchants, 200 flask, 50 food = 420 stats, out of ~4k in PvP gear (best case)? 10% stat control. PvE = no control of drops.
    A) Those numbers are definitely not accurate. B) You act like you don't have control of stats on gear. Extremely false. (Celestalon)"

    what a fucking lie! which control we have from a boss drop?

    very good lore answer for the klaxxi and sha interaction.. :-)

    sad that this info came from out of the game.. :-(

    is don adams the rael lore crafter behind wow?..
  1. Metacrias's Avatar
    If they want there to be 'choice' involved in the garrisons, as it stands now from simply reading about the medium tier the Trading Post is way too strong and will be taken by most everyone (whatever has the auction house will be taken by most people - and for the AH to function, everyone needs good access to keep the 'markets' active). Add to that the reputation bonus? Not to mention that it's minor ability appears to be a quicker to use cross between MoP's Farm and Mote of Harmony/Spirit of Harmony Vendor system - it is just too obvious a choice. With the inn nearly required, and this required the other three will languish (sure, my lw/tailor is going to have a barn, but...)
  1. Kolvarg's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Arvandor View Post
    "No control over secondary stats, and L100's with different weights - means weak choice of talents: pushes us to one L100 always
    But you *do* have a ton of control over secondary stats. (Celestalon)
    170 enchants, 200 flask, 50 food = 420 stats, out of ~4k in PvP gear (best case)? 10% stat control. PvE = no control of drops.
    A) Those numbers are definitely not accurate. B) You act like you don't have control of stats on gear. Extremely false. (Celestalon)"

    what a fucking lie! which control we have from a boss drop?
    You have the control of only using the drops that are ultimately good for you. It happened a lot before reforging and item upgrading exist. Basically the difference is instead of basically just always chosing the item with the most ilvl (and then reforge, upgrade it and enchant/gem), you choose the item that has better stats for you.

    Although in the end the average player will probably just use the best ilvl gear he can get, it makes it slightly harder (and therefore takes a bit more effort / time to get your gear stats optimized) for more dedicated players that care about it.
  1. Army Dreamer's Avatar
    Access to the auction house doesn't come automatically, as the robot auctioneer is lying on the floor broken. You need to complete the Auctioning for Parts quest, which requires collecting parts to build modules for the robot. The parts come from garrison invasions, dungeons, Ashran, and the mobs in the Draenor zones. You can also purchase the parts, as they are not bind on pickup.
    Am I reading this right?
  1. Aelric70's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Frika View Post
    Hahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah sure... not accurate at all! MoP stats control-> u get bad stat u use reforge to turn some of it into something useful on the spot! WoD stats control -> U get a bad stat you hope that next week u get the same item drop but with different stat and hope that u can get the item again >.> I am begining to think that Celestalon is lacking basic understanding of words like 'control' 'not' and 'accurate'
    Just like you seem not to understand this basic concept: WoD secondaries have minimal difference in contribution to throughput, unlike the large gaps in MoP
  1. DrMcNinja's Avatar
    Really looking forward to Garrisons with all them posts.
  1. Pabzi's Avatar
    >Auction House Garrison
    Will people ever leave their Garrison's now?
  1. kulbaen's Avatar
    Garrisons are REALLY not feeling optional. I'm one of the few I guess that is not really all that interested in them.

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