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Warlords of Draenor - Tier 17 Warlock Armor Sets
Today we are taking a look at the Warlock Tier 17 armor sets.






The Gaze of the Black Prince Returns for the Final Time
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Beginning Tuesday, September 2 at 10:00 a.m. PDT, through Tuesday, September 16 at 9:00 a.m. PDT, we’ll be applying the Gaze of the Black Prince buff for the final time before the Warlords of Draenor expansion. This buff will increase the reputation gained with the Black Prince by 100%. It will also increase the chance of obtaining items from his foes needed as a part of the Legendary Cloak quest line including: the Secrets of the Empire, Sigil of Wisdom, Sigil of Power, or Titan Runestone.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Garrison Plots Count
Overall our design philosophy is that a few meaningful decisions is better than lots of inconsequential ones.

This is a video game. there shouldn't be any "consequences". we should be able to do everything inconseqeuncially. thus we should be able to build everything.

So no matter what button you push, it's always the best one? No matter what you do, you win? That's... horrifying. That's what you want video games to be? That's not a game. I'm not sure what that is.

All you're doing is turning the garrison from something fun that people can tinker and toy with into something that has to be min/maxed to the nth, leading to just everyone having the exact same garrison choices dependent on what they do in game. The AH tycoon is going to get the bank and AH, the raider is going to go with the bonus rolls, profession buildings are going to be determined by what you are rather than what you're missing, etc.
Right. People will pick buildings that appeal to them based on what those buildings provide. You're stating the intended result as if it's unintended.(Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
What's the latest AoE capping rules? X for damage and Y for heals? Thanks.
X=20, Y=6 (Celestalon)

any reason ret loses INQ and gain massive dps increase from Seraphim but ferals still have to SR in their rotation? Seems weird
Seraphim is a choice. Savage Roar can be glyphed, another choice. (Celestalon)

what class has given you the most difficulties when it came to balance?
Hmm... Good question. Ones that have abilities that are all interconnected a lot, such as Shadow. Hard to change one thing... (Celestalon)
...without unbalancing something else. (Celestalon)

is the fact that pure DPS classes have more raid utility than a MW a concern?
DPS and Healers aren't competing on utility. (Celestalon)

The adjustments to tanks that you hinted at,are these going to be for all tanks or pecific ones? Thanks!
.All tanks. Current plans: Tweak the design of Resolve. Lower tank health. Lower tank mitigation. Lower boss damage. (Celestalon)
Active Mitigation was a really good step for enjoy playing like tank. If You nerf AM I hope to not return to the past
AM is a great concept, and we're not planning to remove it at all. We'll be reducing both passive and active mitigation. (Celestalon)

Druid (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
from a PvE perspective what does Lunar inspiration bring. Its basically just a one time per duration shred filler?
Ranged damage, an additional DoT to maintain, and combo builder. Like a ranged Rake. (Celestalon)

How are you guys feeling with Balance Druids? havent heard anything recently in any feedback etc!
Generally OK. Might be a bit strong on the multidotting damage. (Celestalon)

Monk (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
can monks have chi orbs back in PVP they are much more fun then surging mists? that is all?
They were extremely unintuitive, yet quite overpowered. Sorry. (Celestalon)
agreed but why surging mists what if we kept chi orbs but added a cast time that you can cast while running...
That's even more unintuitive. (Celestalon)

Any chance of WWers getting a stackable utility cooldown? Hearing from Mythic teams that won't be bringing WW/MW due to this.
Multiple Windwalkers not stacking their movespeed is a concern, but that's a really rare combo, currently. (Celestalon)
MW utility is where the real hurt is though. Devo Aura, Rebirth, Heroism, Guardian Spirit/PW: Barrier....what do MWers bring?
Revival, for it's healing. Dispel is just a minor side benefit. (Celestalon)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
what do you think about empowered seals?
I think it's an interesting playstyle that many will enjoy, and many will hate. Good for a talent. (Celestalon)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
thoughts on echo for enhance being too difficult to use with large haste sources? Especially lust/em. Decision tree very complex
It is. Good for a talent. (Celestalon)

can enhancement get moving LB back? A cast time finisher makes us less mobile than other melee.
No, that should be a niche use. It's ranged, has ranged pros and cons. (Celestalon)

Warlock (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
current state of locks' raid utility or lack thereof reminds me of BC rogues: no utility besides DPS. But our DPS= others'.Why?
Demonic Gateway has high raid utility, despite what some people say. Whole strats based around it all the time. (Celestalon)

Don't you feel that warlocks need fel flame back? To build up the last bit of an ember, demonology movement, affli dot refresh
We don't. It's a challenge, but toning down caster mobility is better for the game. Balance. (Celestalon)
Then why are you toning down only warlocks and shamans? Why are fire mages with scorch ok?
Scorch is primarily a movement tool; damage is trivial. Mobility is one way we differentiate specs. Like how Demo has high mobility (Celestalon)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / WoD Talent Calculator)
Is Gladiator Stance turning out how you guys planned?
So far, yup. (Celestalon)

arms warrior, what can we expect? no softballs here! hopefully small repair on the ol' car.
A little less rage, no more Devestate/Revenge, Mastery buffs, tuning. (Celestalon)
no more devastate/revenge? Will we see the cooldown from swapping stances go away too then?
Yes. (Celestalon)

At this point, they might as well remove Seasoned Soldier, and buff mastery per point by 33-50%
Seasoned Soldier is a useful tuning knob. Mastery will be tuned on it's own (and is easy to do so). (Celestalon)
you keep saying this, but seeing as the big hits got neutered for pvp concerns have yet to see how it works.
Arms damage tuning has been based on PvE performance. Mastery is the most easily tuned stat. (Celestalon)
does that mean the big hit concept is still goal?
Yes, absolutely. (Celestalon)

Character / Items
with the removal of combat stats from profs. What're you doing to balance Engineering? As it becomes the clear must hav
Engineering items that have notable combat benefit are becoming available to all. (Celestalon)

Proving Grounds
Any info to share on the new proving grounds, different style? Or the same but upscaled
In 6.0: Bronze available at level 30 and above. The NPCs scale to your ilvl instead of it downscaling your ilvl. (Celestalon)
Hope to do much more in the future. (Celestalon)

PvE
will people with bad pc's be able to raid 20 man, or are people who can't afford updated pc's gonna be stuck heroic?
We've been making some extremely impressive improvements to client performance, especially in raids. I hope you can! (Celestalon)

Any plans to change spine of deathwing roll mechanic to make it less annoying to solo?
Yes - in 6.0 it takes significantly longer for Deathwing to roll when unbalanced if there's only one player on his back. (WatcherDev)
Some changes planned for Thorim? Impossible for some without engineering. Have to bother someone just to wait in the arena.
Yeah, no more death-ball when the arena is empty in 6.0. (WatcherDev)

Challenge Mode Boss Solo - Armsmaster Harlan
Wannoob managed to solo Armsmaster Harlan in Challenge Mode difficulty after over 100 wipes.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Tier 17 Warlock Armor Sets, Final Gaze of the Black Prince, Blue Tweets, CM Boss Solo started by chaud View original post
Comments 68 Comments
  1. minywheats's Avatar
    OK those warlock shoulders are pretty good
  1. Skarzog's Avatar
    Dat warlock mythic tier... very nice.

    However, I see they too have not escaped the wrestling belt trend this expansion. If you belt buckle is not the same width as your torso, Blizzard aint having it.
  1. Shinja27's Avatar
    How are you going to feel like a champion without your championship belt
  1. tj119's Avatar
    Who cares what they look like everyone is going to transmog them to Merciless, vengeful and T6 anyways.
  1. guigui7's Avatar
    Beginning Tuesday, September 2 at 10:00 a.m. PDT, through Tuesday, September 16 at 9:00 a.m. PDT, we’ll be applying the Gaze of the Black Prince buff for the final time before the Warlords of Draenor expansion. This buff will increase the reputation gained with the Black Prince by 100%. It will also increase the chance of obtaining items from his foes needed as a part of the Legendary Cloak quest line including: the Secrets of the Empire, Sigil of Wisdom, Sigil of Power, or Titan Runestone.

    Am I the only one that think its dumb? They dont listen to people that posted solution on how to make the legendary quest less grinding at this point in the expansion where it doesn't really matter, yet they wont respond/read it. The only solution they came up with was Gaze of the black prince that is F%$king up people on the Valor part and now they say its the last one?! Don't get me wrong I am not a casual noob that whine simple to whine, I have 3 well geared character with the cloak, however I am slowly progressing through the quest with my alt. It would be SO simple to put the buff all the time, or to keep dropping it like they've been doing yet they decided the buff was too much already... does that make sense? Most of us have been in siege of orgrimmar for months and months and are done with heroic encounters however for other players it is a "cockblock" to join guild because it IS a raiding requirement to have the cloak nowdays. Anyway, this could've been easily fixed by removing the valor part or nerfing it again.... or even removing the 1K cap valor cause who care about valor this late in the xpac, if anything its gonna help casual/alt players and they will stick around because they will be able to gear up, go through the quest quickly and upgrade their gear at their will. Sorry for this long text but this upset me when blizzard does dumb stuff like that.

    TL:DR Blizzard is retarded. If you wanna know why just read the above lol :P
  1. valcrist's Avatar
    Really pisses me off how much better he bs hardcore mythic armor looks over the normal tier. I was okay with color changes but model changes too ugh fking bs.
  1. Ikkarus's Avatar
    My reaction "Whoaaa, what a #@% awesome shoulder...wait, what's that? Green fire? Ah, of course, it couldn't just be a simple awesome shoulder, it must have some stupid colored glowing stuff on it..."

    I'm really tired to walk around looking like a christmas tree...If Blizzard gonna keep putting these stupid effects on everything can they please at least give us an option to turn them off?
  1. OxiDiE's Avatar
    Really worried empowered seals is going to be be too stronk and manditory because i HATE that kind of playstyle

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    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    Really pisses me off how much better he bs hardcore mythic armor looks over the normal tier. I was okay with color changes but model changes too ugh fking bs.
    Sounds like a non Heroic(mythic) raider perspective, if you dont put in the time and effort why should you get the same reward

    You shouldnt.

    Not saying you are one of the people but if you believe you dont have the time thats just not a good enough excuse, I raid less then Normal mode guilds and still manage heroics.
  1. slayton's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    Really pisses me off how much better he bs hardcore mythic armor looks over the normal tier. I was okay with color changes but model changes too ugh fking bs.
    To be fair, if mythic didn't have any special rewards then someone would be complaining that everyone had access to the special armor they get. I won't be doing mythic for sure, but they definitely deserve SOMETHING that distinguishes them from normal mode raiders. Just be happy enough there are easy options to get the gear and see all the content....I am.
  1. Spotnick's Avatar
    That video just proves the real bosses in challenge modes is the trash. I hope this changes in WOD... bosses were way too easy.
  1. tj119's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    Really pisses me off how much better he bs hardcore mythic armor looks over the normal tier. I was okay with color changes but model changes too ugh fking bs.
    Mad u bad?

    If lower raiders get Tier Mythic deserves to be distinguished that they are superior.
  1. DrIvoRobotnik's Avatar
    Ew. That Heroic/normal gear looks like garbage. Mythic or bust, I guess.
  1. Arbs's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    Really pisses me off how much better he bs hardcore mythic armor looks over the normal tier. I was okay with color changes but model changes too ugh fking bs.
    Sorry, but your 15 bucks doesn't cover that set, if you want it. Your gunna have to put in the time to get it.
  1. Nullpointer's Avatar
    I'm ok with mythic having it's own tier design, I've been in the hardcore department and this will really push people a bit more into mythic, which is a good thing. I don't have the time anymore to raid seriously and still I don't mind the design difference. Anyone can get those tiers if not in the current tier then during the next etc.
  1. Dantery's Avatar
    Gul'dan tier is for mythic?
  1. The Box's Avatar
    I really like the warlock set.
  1. Ecwfrk's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by guigui7 View Post
    They dont listen to people that posted solution on how to make the legendary quest less grinding at this point in the expansion where it doesn't really matter
    They listened months ago. They implemented the Gaze of the Black Prince for people stuck on the Rep or stones part and they've also been throwing in the Heart of the Valorous Buff over the past few months for people stuck on the valor part. If they nerfed it any more than that they'd get a flood of people who did it "the hard way" screaming bloody murder about them giving away "welfare legendaries".

    It'd be more dumb for them to spend any more time messing with bandaid changes to speed up progression on a questline that has been available in it's entirety for almost a year. The Valor part has been available for almost 2.

    And Valor is being removed from the game in 6.0 completely so that part of the questline will be removed then, it just won't be done specifically to help the tiny number of people who can't wait for 6.0, didn't bother starting the questline before now and were deluded enough to think there was any chance Blizz was going to change the game just for their procrastinating butts was in the realm of possibility. If they've waited this long to do it, they can wait another month or two.
  1. Voisier's Avatar
    Awesome you put gaze of the black prince on when I'm on my 3 week valor grind and guess what. I FINISH IT IN 2 fucking weeks when the buff is off. Absoloute cunts.
  1. Bahska's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Baalb View Post
    I'm ok with mythic having it's own tier design, I've been in the hardcore department and this will really push people a bit more into mythic, which is a good thing. I don't have the time anymore to raid seriously and still I don't mind the design difference. Anyone can get those tiers if not in the current tier then during the next etc.
    Totally agree with this. My guild is going to try and do mythic, but if it doesn't happen i can always go back later. Its just a game not a big deal. The people that do the hardest content in the game deserve a little more though and im glad to see blizzard agree with that.
    Just like in the real world you dont get things handed to you with out putting in some effort. If people want the gear either wait till a later tier and go back or step up your game. (Before someone comments and brings this up) no not every mythic raiding guild plays 7 days a week actually most wont do that.
    My guild raids 2 nights a week and we are going for Mythic for example and we have been a heroic raiding guild since wrath on our limited schedule.
  1. Friendlyimmolation's Avatar
    I love the warlock gear except for the helmet, thank god there is a display/don't display helm option.

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