Patch 6.2.2 - Timewalking Rewards, Patch 6.2.2, Dia Darkwhisper, Final NA Qualifiers

had to chime in on the amount of timewalking tokens, at 125 a boss and 200 for last boss, that simply is to low imo, given that they have given us a TON of stuff to buy and the mount costs 50k...i was hoping/thinking the tokens make like about 1k a run, lines up to being 5 runs for a 5k item, 10 runs and you can get something nice...

Lets take uthguard pinnacle for example, it has 4 bosses, undead chick, the summons boss, skadi, and then king, so thats 125x 3 (375) + 200 for king so 575...a bit low dont you think? i understand they want it to be a grind, but honestly at that many runs its not even worth it, given that at on average u might get 600 ish tokens, you'd have to run 10 runs to get ONE item...maybe its more like it was back in the day, but i'm pretty sure that system was more fair (its been 6 years my memory is a bit hazy)

There's some dungeons with only 3 bosses so 450? so if you want the mount and averaging 500 a run..@ 50k...every 10 runs is 5k ish, so you are looking at over 100 runs give or take, how many do you think you can do in a weekend? you would have to be pretty much dedicate the entire weekend to running them nonstop, i mean granted you can do them casually and just get say 25k 1 weekend and 25k the next, but there are lots of people who rather grind it out and get it done, and over time they simply wont do them once it all gotten

I can see blizzards view on this, less tokens, means more runs, means more time spent and grinding, rewards come slower..been there done that, I'm just saying it should be about 1k a run, not 500, if it was 1k a run, looking at 50 runs for the mount, 50 runs is still a significant time investment, vs 100 @ 500, even in a fast clear group, each dungeon clearing take you 20 min, so maybe 3 an hour...so for 100 runs for 50k tokens? 10 hours is 30 runs...looking at almost 40+ hours of mind numbing grinding for the mount, as a tank its pretty fast, but as a dps? you maybe might get 2 runs an hour..or less

and unless they make these tokens boa/boe or something, alt runs is going to be hell too, i can see myself grinding the mount on my main, but the gear i could use on my alts, have to grind them too, the goal of these weekend things was to avoid so much burn out..but...with these tokens now its going to happen, maybe even more so than they think, people are going to be bored as hell come a few months from now, temporary content with a carrot and a stick, but i guess...any content atm is good content

As dps if you're waiting in queue for each run at about 30 min each that's over 43 hours of time spent waiting to get into the dungeon if you're just going for the 50k mount. Youch. Let's say 8 hours a day for the 4 days a month timewalking is available and 20 minute clears, you'd get about 9 runs a day or 36 for the whole timewalking event per month. It would take you at least 3 months (with leftovers on month 3) to get the mount.

50,000 timewalking badges for a mount @ 500 badges per dungeon? lol good luck with that.

Originally Posted by Multistryke

50,000 timewalking badges for a mount @ 500 badges per dungeon? lol good luck with that.

Don't you see, this is what is going to keep us busy until Legion comes out. Bastards.

Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh

Blizz fails again, so many TBC and WOTLK dungeons, yet they only let you run the SAME ONES YOU DO WHILE LEVELING(and not even all of them). It's so stupid that it's beyond me, it's like they activated some super lazy mode with this new "content" that they call weekend events.

Becase if we saw Slabs and Occlus, people would drop them in a heartbeat.

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Originally Posted by z3rodown

Don't you see, this is what is going to keep us busy until Legion comes out. Bastards.

Ooor they haven't decided how many will drop or how much the things cost, and those are placeholders?

Originally Posted by Wolfie of Medivh

Becase if we saw Slabs and Occlus, people would drop them in a heartbeat.

You can't be serious. If that's a problem, exclude those 2... so hard isn't it? Instead, let them run only 5 dungeons from each xpac. Have fun defending them.

Originally Posted by Wolfie of Medivh

Becase if we saw Slabs and Occlus, people would drop them in a heartbeat.

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Ooor they haven't decided how many will drop or how much the things cost, and those are placeholders?

I do so hope those are placeholder numbers. I would say that 10 timewalking dungeons per weekend is a reasonable number to do. You certainly could do more, but I think that's a reasonable number to expect. At that rate, it would take 5 times through the bonus weekend rotation to get the 50,000 badges needed for each mount, so maybe 18 months to get the badges needed for both mounts. A year and a half of never missing a timewalking weekend to get two mounts? That seems a little steep by my standards.

Originally Posted by Janysa

50000 per Mount? Any idea how many of them will drop per run?
i already see the endless farm ahead...

i would have thought u have to keep doing them all year till you have enough, kinda like how the legendary works but instead of going into a raid for the tokens to drop u get them threw timewalking.
They make the number of required tokens high enough so its impossible to get them all in the 1st week, u then have to then do it the second week but still not enough, you go threw this week after week and blizz know even though u are just collecting tokens you will be back next week to continue the grind then the week after, i see this as blizz making u play timewalker ...every.. month just to get the tokens you want.

if you want the mount or X item you have two chioces with TWing you can grind ALL weekend or can do it at your own pace and it span out month after month, either way blizz win because at the end of they day if you are time walking

ps speaking of events why not make ALL events become available on the weekend instead of just one of them, for me its annoying when you look at the callendar to see what event it is this weekend.

Oh great! pvp weekend. pokemon weekend. Great!, i dont pvp or do pet battles what a waste of 2 events guess ill have to wait 2 weeks for the thing i actually want to become available

Originally Posted by MakeMeLaugh

You can't be serious. If that's a problem, exclude those 2... so hard isn't it? Instead, let them run only 5 dungeons from each xpac. Have fun defending them.

you don't remember when LFD was introduced and they had to give extra rewards to players to complete Oculus or waiting when a healer saw Halls of Reflection and bailed. Heals insta-quit. I suspect if all the dungeons were opened, We'd see only a few get regular completion.

That said, I'd love to see more opened up, but I'm not shocked with the dungeons they chose - they're the most straight forward ones. Ones with unique patterns would not make sense for the "Get 5 dungeons done in 4 days" mentality the current, annoyed player base has. No one wants to sit and explain how the drakes work, the right path in Pit of Saron, how to do Halls of Reflection in Wrath, or how to handle the packs in Slabs or the backwards elevator unlock in the Mechanar.

I personally believe that these Time walking weekends and such are a way of testing this system. Once they're sure they'll roll it out bigger with more dungeons. Possibly in the Expansion. I believe we'll also get Cata dungeons too.

Originally Posted by Yakshamash

As a mount collector all I can say - fuck you Blizzard morons.

They jsut made a whole bunch of mounts available ingame as well, ontop of making one meant for the shop instead available through time walking.

average will be 575 per dungeon so you need to run 174 dungeons to get both mounts.

TBH this isnt as bad as some grinds I have done and TBC and WOTLK mats still sell well.

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BTW I want some vanilla timewalking dungeons please.

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LFM for Timewalking Mount Farm.

Certainly telling that people are up in arms over one issue currently, flying. It serves no purpose but to make the game easier, less immersive, and more single player friendly. Another fine example of how bad blizzard destroyed this genre and their own game alongside it by putting these types of people at the forefront of their list of importance.

Analogous to an iq of 136 actually being top 1% in the world. It's not even that high but it goes to show the masses are just dumb as rocks. Since they're the masses, if you cater to such, this is what you end up with. Same with McDonald's workers getting 15 an hour, gays getting "married", and drug users getting longer prison sentences than rapists and violent assaults.

Cater to the sheep. It's the one item that placates me when it comes to aging and dying. I understand how our grandparents felt about the younger generation. It gets worse and worse every go round and the jump from my generation to the current is staggering in terms of its ignorance.

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Originally Posted by Urza29

had to chime in on the amount of timewalking tokens, at 125 a boss and 200 for last boss, that simply is to low imo, given that they have given us a TON of stuff to buy and the mount costs 50k...i was hoping/thinking the tokens make like about 1k a run, lines up to being 5 runs for a 5k item, 10 runs and you can get something nice...

Lets take uthguard pinnacle for example, it has 4 bosses, undead chick, the summons boss, skadi, and then king, so thats 125x 3 (375) + 200 for king so 575...a bit low dont you think? i understand they want it to be a grind, but honestly at that many runs its not even worth it, given that at on average u might get 600 ish tokens, you'd have to run 10 runs to get ONE item...maybe its more like it was back in the day, but i'm pretty sure that system was more fair (its been 6 years my memory is a bit hazy)

There's some dungeons with only 3 bosses so 450? so if you want the mount and averaging 500 a run..@ 50k...every 10 runs is 5k ish, so you are looking at over 100 runs give or take, how many do you think you can do in a weekend? you would have to be pretty much dedicate the entire weekend to running them nonstop, i mean granted you can do them casually and just get say 25k 1 weekend and 25k the next, but there are lots of people who rather grind it out and get it done, and over time they simply wont do them once it all gotten

I can see blizzards view on this, less tokens, means more runs, means more time spent and grinding, rewards come slower..been there done that, I'm just saying it should be about 1k a run, not 500, if it was 1k a run, looking at 50 runs for the mount, 50 runs is still a significant time investment, vs 100 @ 500, even in a fast clear group, each dungeon clearing take you 20 min, so maybe 3 an hour...so for 100 runs for 50k tokens? 10 hours is 30 runs...looking at almost 40+ hours of mind numbing grinding for the mount, as a tank its pretty fast, but as a dps? you maybe might get 2 runs an hour..or less

and unless they make these tokens boa/boe or something, alt runs is going to be hell too, i can see myself grinding the mount on my main, but the gear i could use on my alts, have to grind them too, the goal of these weekend things was to avoid so much burn out..but...with these tokens now its going to happen, maybe even more so than they think, people are going to be bored as hell come a few months from now, temporary content with a carrot and a stick, but i guess...any content atm is good content

Must...make...easier...
Perhaps they can just unlock everything for free after 5 dungeons? That would be cool right? As it is the best players in game and the worst will have a 10 item level difference at the end of this xpac. Everyone will have an account full of 100s they can't play due to toons starting at 90 and free boosts. It's a joke. A flipping joke.

"Cooking - The Barrel of Fish and Crate of Meat can contain some older Cooking recipes."

I wonder which recipes. Hmm, maybe it's time I sell my Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops recipe before it becomes obtainable again.