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Timewalking Reward Costs
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
They already tweeted a pretty stand-pat stance about this. Their claim is it's "meant to take dedication". I'm not expecting any type of change until after BlizzCon at the earliest.
One of the problems with Twitter as a medium is the lack of space for nuance. There are hundreds of mounts in WoW, and they are obtainable by a wide variety of different means. Some are simple to get, and cheaply bought off vendors; some require great feats of skill like Gladiator and current Mythic raid mounts; some require tremendous luck (e.g. the Elegon mount); and some require long-term effort (e.g. the Violet Proto-Drake from A Long Strange Trip, or Darkmoon Faire prizes).

Ultimately they are all cosmetic rewards, and Timewalking is designed to be an evergreen system that we will be expanding over the years. Unlike, say, a Tanaan rep mount that clearly was designed to be earned within the scope of this patch, there will be people doing Timewalking (especially as more dungeons, and more expansions' content get added) throughout the future of WoW, and this represents a long-term goal within that framework.

If you want to rush through dozens of Timewalking dungeons in a short timeframe to be one of the first to get the mount, and you'd find that experience satisfying, then by all means do so. But I certainly wouldn't say that's the intended approach here. The 500-Badge quest turn-in is a once-per-event thing (which we definitely could have made clearer), so if you want to take a more measured pace and just do the Timewalking quest each time the event comes around while you happen to otherwise actively be playing, you can get the mount with just a few total hours spent (though over a longer period of real time). It's up to you. In the meantime, there are other items (notably some great alt catch-up gear) available through the system, and those are much more attainably priced.

Accolade Trinkets and PvP Gearing
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We do not plan to put the random-stat Accolade trinkets on the vendors.

However, we did uncover a bug that was causing them to provide twice the secondary stat bonus than was intended. That bug was corrected in patch 6.2.2.

Frankly (speaking for myself as a player, and not for the development team), I'm not convinced that the Accolade trinkets are all they're cracked up to be.

The Wild Gladiator's Accolade of Dominance provides 403 Intellect and 403 Versatility in PvP combat. The Insignia provides 469 Versatility and a 20-second 1330 Intellect proc. In sustained combat, it tends to proc around every 60 seconds, giving it roughly a 33% uptime for an average benefit of ~440 Intellect.

Combine that with the fact that you have to actually be damaging someone for it to proc (which increases the effective uptime by cutting out sections where you're not hitting anyone) and the increased burst potential by allowing you to use your hardest-hitting abilities while it's active... and I'd argue that for the vast majority of players the proc trinket is easily better.

Granted, you might want a different secondary stat which isn't available on the Insignia. In that case I would argue that the difference between 469 Versatility and, lets say, 403 Mastery would be EXTREMELY minor at best.

I could also see an argument for those who are playing Humans, in which case you'd likely be comparing the Accolades to the Badges (the on-use trinkets) instead of the Insignias. As you can probably imagine, buffing Humans isn't exactly high on our priority list at the moment.

All that said, I won't pretend for a second that I'm the best Arena player, and these are obviously just my personal opinions. I'm just not seeing what makes the Accolade trinkets so incredibly attractive that they're absolutely mandatory to the point that it's worth doing content you don't enjoy for a chance to get hold of one.

I'm not really defending RNG PvP gearing, and I think the actions the development team has taken since 6.2 released speak pretty well to say that the devs aren't happy with the way it worked initially either. And I totally understand why it's frustrating that those actions aren't extending to the Accolade trinkets. All I'm saying is that, if you really don't like Ashran, just don't do it. There are other trinket options, and they're -- at worst -- still pretty good.

EDIT: I should also mention again that I'm really only speaking on behalf of myself and the way I enjoy the game. Just trying to have a conversation here.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
If you talk about "bad people on the internet", what kind of people do you refer to? Those who are critical? Those who threaten?
Those who cross a line. No one minds critique. (holinka)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Hey GC, got any thoughts on Health of the Game vs Player enjoyment? I always feel bad about Cata heroic difficulty caving.
I could write volumes on this. Players respect sticking by your guns to an extent, but at some point it becomes out of touch. (OccupyGStreet)

Developer Communication
Is there substantial data to suggest that dev/player communication results in higher sales and retention?
No, I don't believe so, which is why it is so controversial inside studios, e.g. Valve doesn't seem to value it much. (OccupyGStreet)

miss the dev watercooler that blizz did to keep peeps informed. was concise and it came from one source. was that your idea?
I can't recall. I worked on it a lot with Bashiok and Zarhym. (OccupyGStreet)
Do you remember how many hours of discussion, drafting, revision and review went into each one, on average?
I tend to write very fast, which is why I can do all of this. (OccupyGStreet)
A blog might take 2 hours depending on topic. No idea on editing. (OccupyGStreet)



Poll - What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been
The post covering rewards talked about the What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been achievement and mount, so we decided to see how active players are doing towards obtaining the Violet Proto-Drake. Only 15.8% of players have earned the achievement! Have you completed the achievement yet?



WildStar Free to Play Launches September 29
The new Free to Play version of the game, WildStar: Reloaded, is coming later this month!

This article was originally published in forum thread: Timewalking Reward Costs, Accolade Trinkets and PvP Gearing, Tweets, Wildstar F2P started by chaud View original post
Comments 120 Comments
  1. Taiiger's Avatar
    lol WildStar becoming free aka another one bites the dust.
  1. Squishysib's Avatar
    no tabard tab is currently planned, but the new transmog system should help to clear up some space.
    how hard is this to implement seriously.
  1. Adamas102's Avatar
    "But I don't WANT to be in a sewer". "Why can't WE get an updated form". "Why should have have to wait wait to get a timewalking mount". "Why can't we be gnome hunters if [X race] gets to be [Y class]".

    Half the posts are like this and I read all of them like a 10 year old throwing a tantrum would say them.
  1. arandomuser's Avatar
    Adventure mode?sounds like diabloish, and there is some evidence


  1. thorvath's Avatar
    Trotting out 'Long Strange Trip' as an apples to apples argument kind of ignores the fact that the original reward was in fact worthy of a yearlong investment, 310% speed (one of the only ways to obtain it back then)... the recolored protodrake was more incidental.. I stopped using it the moment speed stopped being mount specific.

    Can't get too fussed over the Timewalking kerfuffle myself though. It's basically a variation on the old Annual Pass.. stay subbed for x months, get a mount. They aren't even all that special: a recolored TBC mount and a rejected Store Mount, hardly 'must haves.'
  1. Irisel's Avatar
    Not even a Boomkin, but so confused as to why after YEARS and years of them asking for one, the model is still not updated.

    Edit: NEVERMIND, update coming. kewl!
  1. Stellan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ttak82 View Post
    57% of the guys here claim to have completed the event meta lol. Some of the Mmo-C crowd really plays wow a lot more than the average joe. (other stats also concur with this).

    (I have the violet proto drake since late wrath)
    Well, it's always been clear that the folks here are fans since this is a fan site. I've been playing since Vanilla but I've never completed What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been because of the PVP element. I keep hoping they'll change it but they never do so w/e.
  1. llubtoille's Avatar
    Long strange trip - done everything except Christmas, I'm just never around to play when it's going.
  1. Somarlane's Avatar
    I did What A Long, Strange Trip back in WotLK on two characters: my main, and my paladin alt. After that, I just said no more. As much as I wanted a 310 mount on all my characters... f*ck School of Hard Knocks. That achievement has no business being in the meta.
  1. RuneDK's Avatar
    So Survival Hunters will get a Grip......do they care at all that it's about the only unique thing DKs have anymore?
  1. IIamaKing's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by RuneDK View Post
    So Survival Hunters will get a Grip......do they care at all that it's about the only unique thing DKs have anymore?
    Thats the problem, cant have a class being too unique now.
  1. Ghouldan's Avatar
    "Demon Hunters will have a short transform, with inner demon visuals."

    This is a line that intrigues me. It's kind of vague. Does it imply that they'll have a short-cast transformation into Demon form, much like the Worgen do? Or does it imply that their transformation will only last a short period of time. The "Inner demon visuals" line makes me think that it's more than likely going to be the former.

    I think that Perm Demon Form for Vengeance DH's makes sense.. I do seem to recall they said something about going toe-to-toe with big ass demons in your demon form. I'd have to watch the entire presser again, though.. and I'm not too keen on that right now.

    Eh. If any of you guys know, help would be appreciated.
  1. davidcryix's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    Adventure mode?sounds like diabloish, and there is some evidence
    That's sort of how Tanaan and Apexis daily worked though. Hopefully they supplement that with specific goals to kill rares or complete a dungeon or something like that.
  1. Rekuja's Avatar
    "Illidan is ready to lead Demon Hunters against the Burning Legion."

    thanks for the spoilers bruh!
  1. Yarathir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammonoske View Post
    Really? The transformation has always been temporary for Demon Hunters. Even Illidan before he took the Skull of Gul'dan. You can probably kiss your armor and transmog goodbye if you stayed transformed.
    Tbh, I think it's better if there is a talent or glyph that you can choose for perma metamorphosis.
  1. ripped's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliazer681 View Post
    In this thread: bitchy people finding new things to bitch about.

    "There aren't any rewards to keep me logging in!"
    "THESE REWARDS TAKE TOO LONG TO GET"

    Fuck you people, seriously. Reading these comment threads as a person with an IQ over 74 literally causes brain bleeding, because you stupid fucking children flipflop on everything.
    If you really get this upset reading forums then you need some serious help. See a doctor.
  1. Soeroah's Avatar
    See, I like the idea of Rogues being literally underground in the most relevant, bustling city of the expansion. I can see the appeal of Ravenholdt, of course, but that place isn't exactly a secret to the other classes, and Wrathion probably caused some damage on the way out.

    Iffy on the idea of profession materials from dungeons, though. Unless any person can get any material for any profession, kinda a kick in the pants for people with multiple alts with multiple professions. Though given the recent trend toward discouraging alt play I could see it happening.

    But hey, with no Garrison missions or daily cooldown chores to do it would probably be better to run two or three main alts instead of a stable.
  1. cptaylor38's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Tbh, I think it's better if there is a talent or glyph that you can choose for perma metamorphosis.
    Totally agree. Or at the very least give us a glyph or just flight form that gives us the permanent havoc flight form out of combat to use as a flying mount.


    And adventure mode? Could this potentially be a redesigned scaling tech that lets people solo dungeons that are scaled for one person? Probably not I guess.

    Just trying to think of what it could be..
  1. Quass's Avatar
    I like the idea of Rogues being literally underground in the most relevant, bustling city of the expansion. I can see the appeal of Ravenholdt, of course, but that place isn't exactly a secret to the other classes, and Wrathion probably caused some damage on the way out.
    This. They probably have already finished the rogue class hall and don't want to waste resources, so all this moaning is pointless. Get over it. Instead of wasting artists' work on redoing Ravenholdt, let them work on some new feature.
  1. Synros's Avatar
    "Warlords was not a filler expansion and built some things that will be used going forward."

    Actions speak louder than words, Blizzard...

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