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Legion - Azshara
We found some interesting references to Azshara. Unfortunately there isn't much more than what is below yet. Keep in mind that this is just a reference in an alpha build of Legion, not something final or officially announced. Spoilers below!

Azsuna - "Ten Thousand Years Ago" - The Council at Val'Sharah
Senegos: Ten thousand years ago, I found myself mixed up with a rebel alliance of sorts.
Senegos: This was during the pinnacle of Queen Azshara's power over the elves. Her abuse of magic had grown dangerously strong.
Senegos: We plotted to use the Tidestone of Golganneth against the queen.

Senegos: Cenarius. I can wield the Tidestone, but I must warn you: we risk destroying the entire Well of Eternity!
Cenarius: That, my friend, is precisely the plan.
Illidan: Fah! We need simply to do away with Queen Azshara herself, not the very source of our people's power.
Farondis: I agree. We are firing a cannon at sparrows.
Tyrande: We are fighting the greatest danger our world has ever seen!
Tyrande: Even now, Queen Azshara colludes with demons. She puts our world at risk.
Cenarius: Very well. Prince Farondis, you can secure the Tidestone of Golganneth?
Farondis: I shall have it arranged, Cenarius.


Azsuna - "The Fate of Nar'thalas" - Memory Scene
Attendant: Here it is, my Prince: The Tidestone of Golganneth, one of the seven Stones of Creation, and treasured relic of the kaldorei.
Farondis: Very good. Leave me.
* Attendant leaves.
Farondis: I'm sorry, Cenarius. I believed in your cause, but I couldn't bring myself to turn against...
* Azshara enters.
* Farondis kneels before Azshara.
Farondis: My queen.
Azshara: You've done me a great service today, Farondis.
Azshara: What a shame that you won't LIVE to reap the benefits of my gratitude.
Farondis: ...what?!
Azshara: This whole valley is filled with plotters and schemers.
Azshara: Cavorting with Cenarius behind my back? I will NOT tolerate dissent!
Azshara: You must all be taught a lesson.
* Azshara uses lightning to blow up the Tidestone.



Legion - Artifact Tweets
The Holy Paladin Artifact weapon we recently previewed is intended to be fairly large.





Legion - Artifact Weapon Previews
Today we have the Restoration Shaman Artifact Scepter of Azshara. Some of the shields are missing or incorrect, so don't worry if they look somewhat off or are missing.







Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Classes
Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
My main has been hunter for years. With all the spell removals why does Feed Pet still exist? Pet loyalty is gone.
In this case, it has no impact on keybindings, and minimal potential confusion, so is kept purely for flavor. (WarcraftDevs)

Mage (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Remove Curse for Mages _increases_ class fantasy, yet it's being removed, whats the reasoning there?
Removing Curses is not really part of the iconic Warcraft Mage fantasy, and didn’t fit the desired gameplay. (WarcraftDevs)

Rogue (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
Any plans to be able to glyph out the pistol for throwing axes/knives or similar, for the others?
Not currently, though it’s something we'll consider! Primary focus is on creating a strong core fantasy for Outlaws. (WarcraftDevs)

with so much CC stripped away are we going to just be tunneling damage into each other? HOW BORING
CC overall is being reduced. Blind was removed as Subtlety's rotation now includes Cheap Shot. Extremely strong. (WarcraftDevs)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
of the 3 possibilities you mentioned -incompetent, overworked, lazy- how often is at least 1 of them a factor? i imagine 10%
It's usually not lazy. At the places I have worked, devs are horrified at the thought of disappointing players. (OccupyGStreet)
So in the strictest sense, most of the mistakes we make are those of competence - we make a call that ends up being bad. (OccupyGStreet)
But I originally meant competency in the sense that it's easy to throw colleagues under the bus if you aren't careful. (OccupyGStreet)
Saying "Our engineers couldn't find the bug" out of context invites detractors to say "Well, get better engineers." (OccupyGStreet)

yeah, I'm pretty sure the Pony metaphor was about over-sharing and over-promising.
Early in my career, I communicated everything but ended up sending the message that I was in over my head. (OccupyGStreet)

Yeah, some players have a habit of arguing broken promises as a way to force your hand. (OccupyGStreet)
Some people also REALLY have a hard time confusing with changing one's mind and when one is lying.
Yeah, players should REALLY not want devs to go through with bad ideas just because they were promised. (OccupyGStreet)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Legion - Azshara, Restoration Shaman Artifact, Artifact Size and Transmog, Tweets started by chaud View original post
Comments 38 Comments
  1. Jester Joe's Avatar
    RIP enhance, no cool off hand.

    Hopefully they reconsider it, could at least allow the off hand to have the same appearance as the main hand. Otherwise, I foresee a lot of people just transmogging both if possible, since the skin on the main one would never match.
  1. Ansi's Avatar
    Hoped you could transmog it to a two-hander.
  1. Shambulanced's Avatar
    THOSE SPOILERS THO!

    Resto shield is...eh...alright. Better than prot warrior shield, not saying much though.

    In terms of GC's final quote--it's one thing to cancel a feature because it turns out to be a "bad idea," but it's another thing to not have anything to replace that cut content. I think players tend to want the same "amount" of content, and if they see stuff cut without seeing an "equal or lesser addition," (which is absurd to think about, as different teams work on different features, etc) they get mad.

    Case in point, in WOD, tons of cuts, very little added, and then they tried to sell us the selfie/twitter/social media patch. Were those things stuff that quest developers would be working on? No. But the false equivalence already exists in players' minds.

    Or, currently--we can't see much of Legion content, the release (and formal beta) were pushed way out past what was stated, and expected. So we look to what we do have: TJ and HFC for months and months, and compare it to that promise of "faster expansions." There is no area of any of that where Blizzard is actually delivering, currently, though if Legion comes out amazing at least there will be that justification.
  1. Anaeska's Avatar
    wait... I thought there were only six infinity stones. Where they get the seventh one from?
  1. Radaney's Avatar
    She just blew it up? LOL.
  1. Dakushisai's Avatar
    Azshara isn't strong, she just blows up a powerful and important relic with lightning. lmao
  1. BaneDraegonfire's Avatar
    As an Enhancement Shaman, I hope to high hell I'll be able to transmog that "flame of Doom Hammer". I may be in the minority but I want NOTHING to do with Doom Hammer as my weapon, it destroys my fantasy I already maintain. Guess we shall see.
  1. BAMyouhaveaids's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Dakushisai View Post
    Azshara isn't strong, she just blows up a powerful and important relic with lightning. lmao
    Tyrande just said she's the most powerful threat this world has ever faced, and Tyrande has fought against plenty of dangerous enemies, Old god Avatars, The Lich king, Archimonde and Kil'jaeden. She also destroyed a pillar of creation with a snap of her fingers
  1. MarkHighwind's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Overmind View Post
    Tyrande just said she's the most powerful threat this world has ever faced, and Tyrande has fought against plenty of dangerous enemies, Old god Avatars, The Lich king, Archimonde and Kil'jaeden. She also destroyed a pillar of creation with a snap of her fingers
    Didn't the disclaimer say it was a "memory scene"? This is happening in the past. So no Lich King etc.
  1. Shockeye's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BaneDraegonfire View Post
    As an Enhancement Shaman, I hope to high hell I'll be able to transmog that "flame of Doom Hammer". I may be in the minority but I want NOTHING to do with Doom Hammer as my weapon, it destroys my fantasy I already maintain. Guess we shall see.
    Sadly the player's fantasy is completely irrelevant.

    That really sucks that Doomhammer's lava-formed offhand can't be transmogged. Hopefully it will disappear when sheathed so players at least don't have to look at it all the time, because it really is ugly. If the devs so desperately wanted Enhancement to have Doomhammer, they should have either made 2H Enhance a thing again and made Doomhammer a two-hander, or have whatever appears in the offhand be more like a fireball or something that's thrown as part of the attack animation.
    The lava hammer is silly.

    That said, it's not as bad as that Resto artefact. My gods that is arse-ugly.
  1. tobindax's Avatar
    I wonder how that Azshara plot was datamined. Did you actually play it the game? It seems to not just be strings but it also has stuff like "*<unit> does that".
  1. BAMyouhaveaids's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shockeye View Post
    Sadly the player's fantasy is completely irrelevant.

    That really sucks that Doomhammer's lava-formed offhand can't be transmogged. Hopefully it will disappear when sheathed so players at least don't have to look at it all the time, because it really is ugly. If the devs so desperately wanted Enhancement to have Doomhammer, they should have either made 2H Enhance a thing again and made Doomhammer a two-hander, or have whatever appears in the offhand be more like a fireball or something that's thrown as part of the attack animation.
    The lava hammer is silly.

    That said, it's not as bad as that Resto artefact. My gods that is arse-ugly.
    Yet, it was still at the time where Tyrande had faced Archimonde, which is more powerful than the Lich king, and she destroyed a World pillar which are powerful enough to banish Deathwing. We all saw how deathwing was. Memory doesent neccesarily say that it was long ago
  1. Scionni's Avatar
    I really hope that this means the holy paladin artifact is sheathed on back. Everything's suggesting it.
  1. Nofunallowed's Avatar
    Gotta love how this "class fantasy" excuse is used to handwave any and all concerns and complains about ability removal. I'm getting seriously tired of seeing it mentioned in every blue post.
  1. Detherion's Avatar
    This all seems to lead to Azshara being a Raid in Legion... Don't feel very good about this as i was hoping for an Eye of Azshara Addon and some more underwater action like in Vash'jr, which is my favourite zone. But of course, everybode was whining about that particular zone for no reason.
  1. MrExcelion's Avatar
    This isn't final boss confirmation or anything, but it's starting to look more and more that way. I think she's the frontrunner. Certainly endboss worthy, given her overall power level
  1. Mgann-Morzz's Avatar
    Okay to the people above, yes Azshara is on a personal level absurdly powerful, the most powerful Mage to ever live. all of this dialog is flashback stuff taking place 10k years go, at which point she was already stated to be more powerful than Mannoroth and possibly near Archimonde's level. Given her Old God induced transformation since then and 10 thousand more years to hone her abilities who knows how powerful she is now.

    But as for Tyrande's statement on Azshara being the greatest threat the world has ever seen, reading that to me she isn't so much referring to Azshara as a lone entity but as to what Azshara was doing, consorting with the Legion, trying to summon Sargeras personally since she was crazy and thought she'd be his "bride" all those things.
  1. TyrannicalPuppy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shockeye View Post
    Sadly the player's fantasy is completely irrelevant.

    That really sucks that Doomhammer's lava-formed offhand can't be transmogged. Hopefully it will disappear when sheathed so players at least don't have to look at it all the time, because it really is ugly. If the devs so desperately wanted Enhancement to have Doomhammer, they should have either made 2H Enhance a thing again and made Doomhammer a two-hander, or have whatever appears in the offhand be more like a fireball or something that's thrown as part of the attack animation.
    The lava hammer is silly.

    That said, it's not as bad as that Resto artefact. My gods that is arse-ugly.
    What the hell are you whinging about? They said yesterday that the offhand CAN be mogged.
  1. Eric The Midget's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Overmind View Post
    Yet, it was still at the time where Tyrande had faced Archimonde, which is more powerful than the Lich king, and she destroyed a World pillar which are powerful enough to banish Deathwing. We all saw how deathwing was. Memory doesent neccesarily say that it was long ago
    It says it was ten thousand years ago above. Meaning right during the War of the Ancients.

    She wouldn't have faced Archimonde her during this time. And Tyrande is referring to the demons being the greatest threat to the world not Azshara specifically.
  1. Ealyssa's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrannicalPuppy View Post
    What the hell are you whinging about? They said yesterday that the offhand CAN be mogged.
    Failing your basic reading comprehension roll ? He is talking about the virtual offhand enh shaman will have. And that can't be tmogged without also changing the main hand weapon (in fact the main hand weapon is the only weapon enh shaman have, it's not a pair of weapon like rogues or monks).

    So no, you can't only tmog the ugly lava offhand.

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