Method - Mythic Trial of Valor World First

Class stacking sucks...

Originally Posted by elprofessor

such rules doesnt exist for world firsts . Furthermore this is not applied to raids at highest difficulty.

Not blaming Method for doing that, they would be stupid not to exploit the "bring the class" bullshit that Blizzard implemented if they want to get world first. I am blaming Blizzard for designing classes and raids in a way that certain specs are clearly favored in certain encounters.

I am not sure if Method has public logs on this fight, but if they have, you will see that the SPs will have an insane damage output compared to all others. No exploit necessary, it's just Blizzard bad class design (tm)

No mages but Blizzard thinks they need a huge nerf.... Mage is a pretty shitty dps right now

grats but meh! is there realy someone hyped about thoes worldfirst things?

Originally Posted by Dhru

No mages but Blizzard thinks they need a huge nerf.... Mage is a pretty shitty dps right now

There was a mage, called Qooning. Check wowprogress.

No Rogue or Monk though and I haven't seen an elemental shaman in a world first kill since MoP but it seems like these things are only an issue when a mage is concerned, even when the accusation is false.

Is there a log file?

Originally Posted by GoKs

They did, Blackhand and Archimonde both lasted longer, just an xpac ago.

My question never stated what they did in the past i'm talking about now and legion. this is 2nd raid content now that just got beat. so nighthold is next which will be 3rd, the way blizzard time-gates everything ap grind etc. it's just pathetic to see stuff die in 1 day-ish. atleast allow it to take 2 resets.

blizzard fucked themself with mythic+ being a better gearing method than actual raiding.

Blizzard managed to squeeze out a decent small raid with little to no new map assets required since they're all locations in game already. They should've been doing this for ages.

Originally Posted by Vipala

So sellout, its disgusting.
Gratz though, doesnt really change my opinion of the guild after sco went sellout mode, but gratz nontheless. They deserve it.

I don't exactly get the stigma around selling out, he's trying to make a living out of something he loves to do, isn't that everyone's goal? And Sco clearly loves raiding and the game so let the guy do what he does.

is serenity even trying to get first world kill?

Originally Posted by Anna pls

My question never stated what they did in the past i'm talking about now and legion. this is 2nd raid content now that just got beat. so nighthold is next which will be 3rd, the way blizzard time-gates everything ap grind etc. it's just pathetic to see stuff die in 1 day-ish. atleast allow it to take 2 resets.

blizzard fucked themself with mythic+ being a better gearing method than actual raiding.

you can't take what top guilds do as an idea of how hard the content actually is

Originally Posted by Vichan

you can't take what top guilds do as an idea of how hard the content actually is

top guilds are no "special players" they are group of people who have proved that they have the time to headbutt a wall until it bricks, while guilds like method does have amazing players. it does not neccesary mean they are the best in the community "Player-wise" thesedays people gets on ptr and learns all strategies more or less that the encounters has to offer, and creates weakauras for them.

it is said that any succesfull guild atleast has 1 who is good at lua coding.

So what does this actually mean? It means that the "Top" you are talking about simple are "Great Players" who again and again pulls until it works.

In legion, you have access to Mythic+, which is something you can do again and again and again.

Thanks to the streaming world we live in atm via twitch tv. it is easy if a known streamer sets up a "boost run stream" where you keep getting keys to your desired dungeons, and boost them for get some chest loots.

Since you are not saved you have access to everything. Now Blizzard knowing this released undertuned encounters. Helya is atm the only thing that lasted few days, i wish that she would atleast last 1 or 2 weeks. as in average guild ilvl of 885 or 890. afterall legendaries are now 910 and doing mythic+12 gives 885 ilvl loot,

this would force method to atleast focus on gear grind for like 1 week and it would make the raid content more healthier.

i have the following mindset that

I feel its pathetic to play everyday, to farm every possible ap world quest, to do all the check ups weekly before reset, just so you on patch day beat the living up of released content and then have to look forward to next content already on day 1.

this seriously struggles me.

Here I have shared my opinion of the matter, feel free to agree/disagree we are all different after all.

Originally Posted by Anna pls

top guilds are no "special players" they are group of people who have proved that they have the time to headbutt a wall until it bricks, while guilds like method does have amazing players. it does not neccesary mean they are the best in the community "Player-wise" thesedays people gets on ptr and learns all strategies more or less that the encounters has to offer, and creates weakauras for them.

I feel its pathetic to play everyday, to farm every possible ap world quest, to do all the check ups weekly before reset, just so you on patch day beat the living up of released content and then have to look forward to next content already on day 1.

this seriously struggles me.

Here I have shared my opinion of the matter, feel free to agree/disagree we are all different after all.

I'm not arguing all that bullshit, you me or the other 99.9% of the playerbase aren't gonna 1 clear it in 1 day so it makes no difference if the top guilds manage to clear it. that is absolutely no indication of it's difficulty.

Originally Posted by Vichan

I'm not arguing all that bullshit, you me or the other 99.9% of the playerbase aren't gonna 1 clear it in 1 day so it makes no difference if the top guilds manage to clear it. that is absolutely no indication of it's difficulty.

5 guilds already beat it, thats 100 people. nothing special about it anylonger.

and talk for yourself don't include me with your assumptions.

Originally Posted by Voidmaster

Grats Method though! you guys showing you are still the best, maybe even better now with those ppl left to Serenity.

All the Ego's went to Serenity, and the major difference between the 2 is a Hunter called Rogerbrown, a legend in tactics