Jan 10 Hotfixes, Dev Q&A Thursday, 35+ Artifact Traits Disabled in PvP, Blue Posts

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Patch 7.1.5 Hotfixes - January 10
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Brawler's Guild
  • Financial Support buffs should now be cleared between matches.
  • The Prediction Incentives NPCs should no longer state that they are accepting guesses when the guessing game is not enabled.
  • The Prediction Incentives NPCs can now be clicked through players.
  • Johnny Awesome should no longer yell across servers.

Classes

Class Halls
  • Players are no longer able to use Artifact Power items while an Artifact that has all 54 points completed is equipped.

Items
  • Wilfred's Sigil of Superior Summoning should now correctly reduce the cooldown of Infernal/Doomguard when a Wild Imp is spawned with the Impending Toom talent. Cooldowns that are over 10 minutes will be reduced to 3 minutes with Impending Doom active.

Player versus Player
  • Fixed an issue where some Paladin Fearless Gladiator’s armor was assigned the wrong faction. If your armor faction is incorrect, log out and then back into of World of Warcraft.
  • All Artifact traits after 34 are now disabled in PvP instances.
  • Ashran
    • Several Wand and Scroll items should once again be usable within Ashran.
  • Priest
  • Psychic Link will now deal 30% of Mind Blast and Void Bolt damage (was 100%).

Quests
  • Resolved an issue where Shar'thos would sometimes not grant credit for his World Quest.
  • During "Test at Sea", the North Fleet Reservists will once again spawn so that you can drop plague vials on them.

Watch the Legion Live Developer Q&A with Paul Kubit on Thursday!
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Join us live on Twitch Thursday, January 12, as we sit down with Senior Game Designer Paul Kubit for our next live developer Q&A.

He’ll be answering many of your questions on Brawlers’ Guild, Micro-Holidays, Timewalking, and Professions.

Feel free to submit questions by posting in this forum thread or via Twitter using the hashtag #LegionQA.

We’re really looking forward to getting the chance to dive in and answer as much as we can on Brawlers’ Guild, Micro-Holidays, Timewalking, and Professions, so we hope to see you Thursday at 8:00 p.m. CET!

35+ Artifact Traits Disabled In Instanced PvP Until Legion PvP Season 3
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Character progression is a core element of World of Warcraft, and that includes PvP. In Legion, empowering your Artifact to become stronger is a key part of character progression. When Artifact Knowledge levels were low at the beginning of the expansion, we deactivated the 35+ Artifact Traits in instanced PvP to avoid having large power gaps when compared to players who hadn't made much progress on their Artifact yet.

In Patch 7.1.5, we added several methods that allow players to catch up their Artifact progression very quickly. Brand new players can advance up to Artifact Knowledge level 15 without any research time, and existing players can mail Artifact Knowledge Compendiums to alts, which immediately bring them as high as level 20. At this point, the power gap between a player with 35+ traits in their Artifact and a player just starting out is significantly less of a concern, as the gap can be closed very rapidly. For those reasons, we felt that Patch 7.1.5 was the right time to re-open Artifact progression to PvPers who had already earned the first 34 traits.

However, we did not communicate this change (and its purpose) with enough advance notice to allow players to effectively prepare for it. Furthermore, while the improvements in Patch 7.1.5 make it much easier to unlock those final traits for new players or alternate characters, they weren't available until today. While we still believe activating these traits is the correct choice for World of Warcraft PvP, the middle of an ongoing season is not the right time to make this change.

As of a few minutes ago, we've applied a hotfix that once again disables the 35+ Artifact Traits in instanced PvP on North American and Oceanic servers. In other regions, this hotfix will be applied with the patch. The 35+ Artifact Traits will remain disabled for Legion PvP Season 2.

Once Season 3 begins, we'll re-enable them. Note that Patch 7.2 will include some further expansions to the Artifact system that will make it highly valuable to have spent some Artifact Power on those traits (another reason we feel it's important that they be enabled in PvP). We'll have more details to share on those changes once Patch 7.2 has begun its public testing phase.

Thanks for your feedback and understanding on this topic.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Travel Form SpeedBug
Can someone explain why they felt the need to nerf travel forms base speed from 200 to 180%?
This is a bug and we currently have a hotfix in the works to resolve it. I'll update this thread if I hear anything more.

Thanks for the heads up, and we appreciate your patience on this. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Banning Botters
Customer Support checking in - we definitely can and do continue to action bots. However, there might not always be landmark sweeps where thousands of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. These actions happen on a couple levels.

Some are as simple as a Game Master investigating individual reports and we don't need more information on that particular system: we can close them down immediately. Other cases, we observe, monitor, and then detect/break the bot without needing player reports. Mass actions also occur, but those who barter and trade in illicit programs don't usually come to the WoW Forums to discuss it.

There's a combined effort of normal checks/sweeps that our Hacks team do, the reports that are sent to Game Masters via right-click reporting, and other research on how these programs interact with our games where we attempt to break those methods outright. However, much like real life, the game of "Good Guys vs. Bad Guys" is an ongoing game. We build a mousetrap, they build a better mouse, we improve the mousetrap, etc. We aren't resting on our laurels, and continue to iterate and build new systems and pull new data to help us find and remove cheaters.

If you see people exploiting bots/cheats in-game, let us know. You can also email us tips at Hacks@blizzard.com. In-game reports are best as it includes important information that players can't traditionally see (account details, play behavior information, etc), but where it's not possible the email is sufficient for us to kick off some research!

Just to play counterpoint:

Blizz doesn't need to "collect info" they have the info for the last 10 years. They could spend what...ten or twenty bucks to buy a bot account and get all that info in minutes. Its a cop out.
This assumption is that bots haven't evolved in the 11 years we've been investigating/breaking them. There are a few botting companies who would strongly disagree with that assessment. Also, reverse-engineering a tool doesn't happen in minutes, whether you make the purchase or not. Debugging and reverse-engineering takes time, and then building reporting/detection around that also takes additional time. I can certainly understand your frustration, but I want to make sure it's tempered with realistic expectations.

Bots and cheat programs will continue to exist in any game for as long as there's a market for it: unfortunately, players who buy gold or other RMT services encourage botting and compromised accounts whether they realize it or not. People bot for a variety of reasons, from small-scale boredom to organizations who run gold selling services. As long as those exist, we'll continue to keep weeding out and removing them from the community.

You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but I won't let our actions and efforts be dismissed simply because you feel we're trying to scam or otherwise ignore our playerbase on the issue. Play Nice; Play Fair is one of the 8 core concepts of what we do, and hopefully some day we can convince you of that.

I wish you well in your adventures, and we'll continue to clean up bots for if you choose to return. In the meantime, if you do encounter any cheaters in our games I encourage you to use the reporting methods available so we can take a look at them. (Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Patch Notes
As long as I've been at blizzard (4 years) the patch notes haven't gone live until 6pmish the previous day. this is earlier.
but ultimately, yes, a lot went wrong, which we're fixing for the 7.2 notes (including PTR notes) (Source)
The light of the tunnel is that part of the issue is due to some team restructuring which means future patch notes will be MUCH better
We generally don't make promises but I can 100% promise this will not happen again. (Source)

Weekly Bonus Event - World Quests
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
An extra weekly quest and rewards are here.

Get out your best map and plan your route across every part of the Broken Isles, as this is a great time to immerse yourself in World Quests.

This Week
All week, open your map (default hotkey: m) and then select any of the five main Broken Isles zones to consider the World Quests available to you. Hover your mouse over a World Quest on the map to see what tasks are needed complete it, the rewards you’ll receive, and the time remaining that the quest is available to you.

Look for the following all week long:


If you’ve been looking to impress some emissaries, this is the week to do it!

Every Week
The Bonus Events system consists of a rotating schedule of different activities, currently scheduled to run each week beginning on Tuesdays. Each Bonus Event grants a passive bonus to a particular game activity and offers a once-per-event quest with a noteworthy reward for accomplishing a related goal. The in-game calendar can serve as your one-stop reference for the event schedule. The Adventure Guide also offers a direct link to active Bonus Events, allowing you to easily accept any associated quests.

World Boss - Shar'thos
The Sleeping Corruption is up this week, so you can head to Val'sharah to kill Shar'thos for a chance at item level 860 loot, a Shadow Relic, and a piece of the Fury Warrior hidden artifact appearance.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Jan 10 Hotfixes, Dev Q&A Thursday, 35+ Artifact Traits Disabled in PvP, Blue Posts started by chaud View original post
Published on 2017-01-11 02:30 AM
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  1. ImpTaimer's Avatar
    -delete-

    He fixed it.
  1. Niight9's Avatar
    Stupid question here but i can't manage to find an answer: Does the Nighthold have a gated acces ? Meaning if i haven't done any of the suramar quest, will i be able to acces the raid (Nm or Hm) on release (next week). (i don't care about the "you should have done it by now")
  1. Volardelis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Niight9 View Post
    Stupid question here but i can't manage to find an answer: Does the Nighthold have a gated acces ? Meaning if i haven't done any of the suramar quest, will i be able to acces the raid (Nm or Hm) on release (next week). (i don't care about the "you should have done it by now")
    Blizzard said there is no attunement for nighthold
  1. Ausr's Avatar
    "Why don't they buy a bot because they've had the same information for 10 years!"

    Jesus christ, these people are fucking idiots.
  1. mmocc78a12fad6's Avatar
    "Class Halls

    Players are no longer able to use Artifact Power items while an Artifact that has all 54 points completed is equipped. "

    Really Blizzard? Really? You just destroyed something that people actually enjoyed with the game. People that already got 54 traits and maybe even 54 in main/os pretty much got no reason whatsoever to do a mythic+ dungeon again except a small chance to recieve an item upgrade. We already started to stack up ap in mainweapon for traits coming in future patches and now you pretty much gave us nothing to do again except maybe farm on alts? You made the game 1 char friendly, and now you pretty much force us into os or alts. Why?
  1. Nagemaru's Avatar
    They need to Hot Fix Impending Doom. It is currently not working at all. In fact Doom is not counting the haste your character has at this point.
  1. Super Kami Dende's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Diwineq View Post
    "Class Halls

    Players are no longer able to use Artifact Power items while an Artifact that has all 54 points completed is equipped. "

    Really Blizzard? Really? You just destroyed something that people actually enjoyed with the game. People that already got 54 traits and maybe even 54 in main/os pretty much got no reason whatsoever to do a mythic+ dungeon again except a small chance to recieve an item upgrade. We already started to stack up ap in mainweapon for traits coming in future patches and now you pretty much gave us nothing to do again except maybe farm on alts? You made the game 1 char friendly, and now you pretty much force us into os or alts. Why?
    You can't use them, It doesn't mean you can't stock pile them or put them into your offspecs for when new traits come out.

    Jesus what a pointless complaint.
  1. mmocc78a12fad6's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel SnackyCakes View Post
    You can't use them, It doesn't mean you can't stock pile them or put them into your offspecs for when new traits come out.

    Jesus what a pointless complaint.
    You might be able to stockpile somewhat around 30-35 m ap if u fill your bank and some slots in your bag. Thats nothing when ppl already got 50-60 m ap stockpiled in their ms weapon and next trait animation showed up after 9.9 m after 54. For people that find joy in it its not really pointless as all 3 weapons will be filled up within a couple of weeks. What then? Mailbox filled up constantly or destroying them for x months before 7.2? ...
  1. mmocb9c2409159's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel SnackyCakes View Post
    You can't use them, It doesn't mean you can't stock pile them or put them into your offspecs for when new traits come out.

    Jesus what a pointless complaint.
    I guess you don't understand the problem.

    I'm maxed on 54 traits as a prot paladin. I will never play ret or holy as they hold no interest for me. Up to now I have been able to stockpile AP by adding it to my weapon - now I have tokens that I can't activate.

    Even with 100 spare slots (bags and bank) a week of World Quests and Mythic + will totally max out any available space I have.

    At that point there is little or no reason to do anything that gains AP other than a weekly high level M+ for the chest and raids because I enjoy them.

    Prior to this I was able to activate the tokens and build a balance of AP for future use and felt that I was progressing towards the additional traits coming in 7.2.

    I'm sure that Blizzard has valid reasons for this change, unfortunately it removes any incentive I have to continue running content as it is no longer potential progression for my character.
  1. Ophenia's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Satorious View Post
    Prior to this I was able to activate the tokens and build a balance of AP for future use and felt that I was progressing towards the additional traits coming in 7.2.

    I'm sure that Blizzard has valid reasons for this change, unfortunately it removes any incentive I have to continue running content as it is no longer potential progression for my character.
    Yeah because you don't see any problem with you buying the 54-74 future traits instantly on day one on the patch bringing them to live.
  1. mmoc14a2cc95f5's Avatar
    They need to make AP items stackable. Or, if they dont want to stockpile AP for incoming trait points, they need to get rid of them from WQs for people with max trait in spec, and compensate with something else - gold, reputation, etc...
  1. Myranda01's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Segnal View Post
    They need to make AP items stackable. Or, if they dont want to stockpile AP for incoming trait points, they need to get rid of them from WQs for people with max trait in spec, and compensate with something else - gold, reputation, etc...
    If you're 54 in one weapon i hardly believe you can use any reputation anymore... BoA rep would be a better idea
  1. Tenjen's Avatar
    Blizzard has done more than most companies out there to combat bots in the last 11 years.

    People dont realize that its a constant battle. Blizzard researches, investigates and breaks bots and the companies find different ways to bot which blizzard then goes about checking how to break again.

    Thats 11 years of the cycle spinning.
  1. Amerissis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Satorious View Post
    I guess you don't understand the problem.

    I'm maxed on 54 traits as a prot paladin. I will never play ret or holy as they hold no interest for me. Up to now I have been able to stockpile AP by adding it to my weapon - now I have tokens that I can't activate.

    Even with 100 spare slots (bags and bank) a week of World Quests and Mythic + will totally max out any available space I have.

    At that point there is little or no reason to do anything that gains AP other than a weekly high level M+ for the chest and raids because I enjoy them.

    Prior to this I was able to activate the tokens and build a balance of AP for future use and felt that I was progressing towards the additional traits coming in 7.2.

    I'm sure that Blizzard has valid reasons for this change, unfortunately it removes any incentive I have to continue running content as it is no longer potential progression for my character.
    Luckily people who do this are such a minority, it doesn't matter. I guess they don't want people to buy all the new traits and/or ranks on 7.2 launch day. It would be annoying in PvE, but it would completely screw over people in PvP.
  1. mmocda667d9fcc's Avatar
    I guess Johny Awesome was just too awesome... and needed a nerf.

    I mean... he was awesome enough to yell accross servers!
  1. exochaft's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Amerissis View Post
    Luckily people who do this are such a minority, it doesn't matter. I guess they don't want people to buy all the new traits and/or ranks on 7.2 launch day. It would be annoying in PvE, but it would completely screw over people in PvP.
    Here's the thing people are forgetting: anyone could stockpile AP into a weapon prior to 7.1.5, but having stockpiled AP in a weapon is now an exclusive thing after 7.1.5. As it stands right now, Blizz just made the situation worse by having those that stockpiled AP past trait 54 have a head start when 7.2 goes live, and those that haven't begun to stockpile will always be behind because they are locked out. It's poor foresight, as they should've just had weapons stop accruing AP prior to 7.1.5 when news broke that someone maxed out their weapon already. At this point, I doubt Blizz would nuke the stockpiled AP in weapons, so I feel bad for those that didn't max out their weapon prior to this patch.

    *edit* - One of the previous posters is correct: there's going to be a point relatively soon where we are going to run out of places to dump AP. I'm a druid, so it'll take me a little longer, but I already have main spec 54 + extra stockpiled AP, along with most of my offspec weapons around 35. Funny thing is there are tons of people with more AP in their weapons than me.
  1. mmoc442be69514's Avatar
    Yay Shartos again this week. Hidden Fury Artifact i'mc comiiiiing..
  1. bazzzyl's Avatar
    I reached 54 traits with my Beastmaster 2 days ago, and stacked up maybe 3 mil AP. Today bam!, no stacking up for us... I'm not gonna play neighter mm or surv. WTH am I supposed to do with all that crap when bank space runs up?!
  1. Strawberry's Avatar
    Haha what Blizzard said about bot programs is completely true. They improve the mousetrap, the bot companies improve their mouse.
    I had one bot that got banned in the November banware. Now I have two. You know what they say, cut one head, two new appear...
    I'm sitting on exactly 2.940.000g atm. Not many players are buying gold on my realm, which is bad for all of us. One WoW token cost €20, while 100k gold cost all from €5 to €8. That's 25-35% price of what it costs to buy from Blizzard directly. Or half the price of your sub. I can always unload gold to chinese who resell for higher but they usually buy for €3.5 - €4 per 100k. I prefer to find private buyers as I can then sell for about €6.5 per 100k.
    You earn €6 by what, working for 20 minutes? Imagine how long it takes to farm 100k gold. Besides, you guys are getting cheaper herbs for raid and I'm getting paid for doing nothing, win-win
    It's a video game, don't take the economy too serious. If you see a bot, don't report him. He's a modern Robin Hood.
  1. bazzzyl's Avatar
    Also my 20/20 Spiritbount yesterday "said" 14.5% dmg buff, today is "says" 14%... Fix 1 thing, break 2 others.
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