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Armory Stats - Artifact Challenge Appearances
Today we are taking a look at the number of characters that have the Artifact Challenge appearance equipped.

  • This data set includes 4.5 million Level 110 characters active in the last month, across the US and EU.
  • We only considered what artifact appearance a character had equipped when they logged out.
  • The percentage shown is the percentage of characters that logged out with the listed spec that have the challenge appearance equipped.
  • We don't have a good way to know if a character has the challenge appearance unlocked unless they have it equipped.
  • This means that player preference for spec and appearances plays a role in the numbers below and that they don't represent a true comparison of difficulty between the specs.
  • For example, in terms of absolute numbers, more Havoc Demon Hunter have their challenge appearance equipped than Assassination rogues, but there are many more Havoc Demon Hunter characters than Assassination Rogue characters, making the percentage of characters logged out as that spec lower.

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Average Item Level With Appearance
We also looked at the average item level of characters with a challenge appearance vs the average item level of all characters of that spec.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Blood - 911.8 (+43.4 from the average of 868.4)
  • Frost - 912.0 (+42.6 from the average of 869.4)
  • Unholy - 908.5 (+43.1 from the average of 865.4)

Demon Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Havoc - 910.2 (+44.0 from the average of 866.2)
  • Vengeance - 911.0 (+50.3 from the average of 860.7)

Druid (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Balance - 910.1 (+38.8 from the average of 871.3)
  • Feral - 910.0 (+50.6 from the average of 859.4)
  • Guardian - 911.7 (+36.5 from the average of 875.2)
  • Restoration - 911.0 (+33.0 from the average of 878.0)

Hunter (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Beast mastery - 908.1 (+42.1 from the average of 866.0)
  • Marksmanship - 910.3 (+42.0 from the average of 868.3)
  • Survival - 909.3 (+47.2 from the average of 862.1)

Mage (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Arcane - 910.0 (+44.4 from the average of 865.7)
  • Fire - 911.4 (+44.6 from the average of 866.7)
  • Frost - 911.3 (+43.4 from the average of 867.9)

Monk (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Brewmaster - 913.0 (+40.4 from the average of 872.6)
  • Mistweaver - 910.7 (+34.6 from the average of 876.2)
  • Windwalker - 906.9 (+42.3 from the average of 864.6)

Paladin (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Holy - 911.0 (+33.0 from the average of 878.0)
  • Protection - 913.0 (+41.8 from the average of 871.2)
  • Retribution - 908.9 (+41.0 from the average of 867.9)

Priest (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Discipline - 909.7 (+46.3 from the average of 863.4)
  • Holy - 911.9 (+36.4 from the average of 875.5)
  • Shadow - 911.7 (+43.9 from the average of 867.8)

Rogue (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Assassination - 907.7 (+38.4 from the average of 869.3)
  • Outlaw - 911.4 (+53.6 from the average of 857.9)
  • Subtlety - 910.7 (+49.3 from the average of 861.4)

Shaman (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Elemental - 911.7 (+40.9 from the average of 870.8)
  • Enhancement - 908.4 (+42.1 from the average of 866.3)
  • Restoration - 911.6 (+34.5 from the average of 877.0)

Warlock (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Affliction - 909.7 (+38.8 from the average of 870.9)
  • Demonology - 907.9 (+46.0 from the average of 861.9)
  • Destruction - 906.7 (+46.4 from the average of 860.2)

Warrior (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator / Artifact Calculator / PvP Talent Calculator)
  • Arms - 910.1 (+49.3 from the average of 860.8)
  • Fury - 910.6 (+40.8 from the average of 869.8)
  • Protection - 911.8 (+43.3 from the average of 868.5)




Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
PvP
Will Affli be getting a new PvP talent to replace Death's Embrace becoming a regular talent?
Yes (holinka)

if i drop below 2k during s3,will i be able to buy elite gear when s3 elite vendor comes out,or i need to be 2k+ when seasone ends?
You just need the "Cruel Elite" achievement. (holinka)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
How do you approach the risk that comes with taking away an interaction that players have grew fond of versus the potential gain in game health?
At the end of the day, it’s a cost benefit analysis. How bad is the current state of game health and how likely are you to improve it by taking away the interaction you mention? If you’re going to improve health by 1% but losing the interaction makes players like the game 10% less, then that’s not a trade I would take.

A really typical situation where this manifests is when the interaction is fun for some players, but part of the reason why it’s fun is because it’s overpowered, hard to counter, or maybe really easy to execute. For the player having fun it feels like you are squashing their fun and they don’t understand what the big deal is. But for other players, the interaction feels like bullshit.

I don’t mean to imply that players are so shallow that they only enjoy unbalanced things. However, we used to have a saying that anything overpowered is fun. It’s sometimes hard to distinguish whether players are enjoying the cause (the interaction) or the effect (being overpowered).

All that said, I also try to preach that developers should not stomp on an interaction just because it is unintended. As a developer, it can be easy to reflexively nerf or change something just because players aren’t doing something the way you imagined. But if it’s not actually hurting anything, I’d let them keep doing it. (Source)



DLC #584 - Outhouse
DLC #584 has been released.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Armory Stats - Challenge Artifact Appearances, Poll, Tweets, DLC #584 started by chaud View original post
Comments 103 Comments
  1. k1p57a's Avatar
    Playing prot pally. Shit seems impossible as of now... I don't mind difficult but must admit I'm not a big fan of random insta-death being 900 geared :/
  1. Shigenari's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by GSN View Post
    Ilvl stats are skewed. The challenge has been out for quite some time already, many people did it the first week with ~900 ilvl or less.
    This. I just did it at 900 ilvl on my Frost mage this morning as I have no time and this was literally the first time where I've both had a couple of hours spare and the mage tower has also been up at the same time since the Broken Shore released.

    At ilvl 900 it was reasonably challenging but easily doable once I'd got the rhythm of the thing down. I would have thought that with every single piece of gear being 10 ilvls higher it could have easily been done in <5 attempts. As far as that one goes at least, if people are struggling at 910+ then something is seriously wrong with what they're doing.
  1. Nuvuk's Avatar
    I find it funny how all the tanks are among the lowest.
  1. Eskaron's Avatar
    Would love to see completion in regards to which challenge was required.
    From rough estimations, it seems the God-queens fury seems to be the easiest followed by feltotem's fall and thwarting the twins. The tank challenge is definitely the hardest one.
  1. tzzimy's Avatar
    This data set includes 4.5 million Level 110 characters active in the last month, across the US and EU.
    For one moment there I thought it was about subscriptions...
  1. k1p57a's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Nuvuk View Post
    I find it funny how all the tanks are among the lowest.
    Tank here. It's not.
  1. sirethas's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Siniwelho View Post

    And only two specs have average item level below 860. I know that Feral has AoE problems, but wasn't Outlaw the best rogue spec somewhere in Legion.

    Feral druid ....... 859.4
    Outlaw rogue ...... 857.9
    Outlaw rogue was best spec for first couple of weeks, then week before EN opening blizzard nerfed it and Assa pulled ahead, ever since then most of the rogues are assa, and some stood outlaw getting legendary wrists which made them playable.
  1. Deuse's Avatar
    The tank one's mechanics are able to be learned, it's just you need something like a a 925+ gear score to do enough damage which very few people have at the moment.
  1. Snimo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    The tank one's mechanics are able to be learned, it's just you need something like a a 925+ gear score to do enough damage which very few people have at the moment.
    Hmm, i did the Brewmaster one in 904 gear... its far from impossible, took me like 10 tries
  1. Stormykitten's Avatar
    Waiting a bit until the challenge is designed for more than mythic+ pushers & higher end raiders. My gear is only 890, so I'm waiting a bit until I can access better gear.
  1. Onikaroshi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by HeyGuysHello View Post
    Did all three specs for my main and one alt here:
    I agree they're badly designed (one CC fight and two kite fights for a warlock tells me nothing about my class), but they're definitely harder than Brawler's. I died twice in Brawler's, once from testing the mechanics on the last boss, once more from the rock party bug that doesn't allow you to beat it.
    Ah, I'm still unfamiliar with that particular challenge as I still have bothered with ret yet, that sounds kind of silly compared to some of the others though, Closing the Eye is a pain in the ass compared to that.
  1. Sheilary's Avatar
    So it doesnt count the artifact in our bag, like offspec ?
  1. Gib Lover's Avatar
    Wew, that DLC is powerfully unfunny.
  1. agentsi's Avatar
    40% of people who took the poll have complete the challenge? Something doesn't add up...lol
  1. Kogarasu's Avatar
    "Challenge Mode"

    Nothing more than a gear check especially ones that require you to have specific legendaries.

    The old challenge modes made sure everyone was on the same footing, i have feeling once ToS is released and the average gear level of each player goes up by 20 or so the number of completed ones will go way up.
  1. Aquinan's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by paflodder View Post
    Typical blizz , catering towards 5% of their playerbase .
    Then wondering why the other 95% is leaving lol .
    Yeah because an APPEARANCE is content that is *must have* by everyone. Piss off with that bullshit already, it's pure cosmetics.
  1. agentsi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquinan View Post
    Yeah because an APPEARANCE is content that is *must have* by everyone. Piss off with that bullshit already, it's pure cosmetics.
    Honestly, I've only completed the destro lock one. Even if you were 930-940. They still have the one shot mechanic in there. If you continue to miss that, you will die. Same with Aff, that fight is super buggy, but you get literally one shot if you mess up. I don't think a huge ilvl will fix those mechanics. Maybe just be able to dps faster, thats all.
  1. Spl4sh3r's Avatar
    Poll should have included an option for "Yes, but only for alt spec".
  1. chaud's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenkye View Post
    Would be also interesting see how many players have all skins already per class.
    I can't do this per class unfortunately, as achievements are account wide.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldgeezer View Post
    Chaud, if you're reading this, are the average item level data for the highest 110 character per account, or all 110 characters per account?

    The mean from your set comes out as 867.8, which is somewhat higher than I expected. The variation between specs is interesting too, but someone else can analyse that.
    Average item level data is per character, accounts weren't used to generate those. Assuming we got an item level per account, it would probably be even higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShimZ-VIII View Post
    So it doesnt count the artifact in our bag, like offspec ?
    Nope! Unfortunately there is no way for me to see what is in a character's bags. Only what they have equipped.
  1. Trollfat's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    40% of people who took the poll have complete the challenge? Something doesn't add up...lol
    MMOC isnt even close to representative of the playerbase as a whole.

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