Developer Q&A - Senior Game Designer Paul Kubit
Paul Kubit talked about patch 7.2.5 content including: Black Temple Timewalking, the Deaths of Chromie, Trial of Style, The Great Gnomeregan Race, and more!

Patch 7.2.5 will hopefully be ready for release on June 13, but that date is not final.





Class Questions
  • There will be an AMA on Reddit in the next few weeks.

Trial of Style
  • Trial of Style will make all transmog changes and haircuts free!
  • It is a five day event that may run multiple times per year. It depends on how it feels when it goes live.
  • Trial of Style rewards are previously obtainable transmog appearances, but they aren't as easy or desirable to get anymore.
  • This is the first season of Trial of Style. More appearances could be added as rewards.

Illusions on Hunter Weapons
  • The team didn't make the technical changes to add enchant appearances to bows and guns.
  • A fiery gun might look odd.

Secrets
  • Foreshadowing exists in the game now, in places where you might not expect it.

Class Mounts
  • You will be able to go back and get your class mounts after Legion.

Pet Battle Dungeons
  • Patch 7.2.5 adds the Deadmines pet battle dungeon.
  • The team will keep adding pet battle content as long as players are interested in it.

.5 Patches
  • It is good to have smaller patches that include some content for players that aren't always the majority of the playerbase.
  • The smaller patches also allow the team to react to player feedback and offer new content more often.

Legendary Item Upgrades
  • You will need to collect items from playing the game to upgrade your legendary item, similar to the item level 940 upgrade.
  • You won't have to accept the quest to start collecting those quest items.
  • The upgrade item will bring your legendary to item level 970, so you won't have to do the previous upgrade quests.

World Quests
  • The base item level of World Quest rewards won't be going up. They went up in Patch 7.2.
  • When Mythic ToS opens, the Titanforge cap will go up, but the base item level will not increase.

Black Temple Timewalking
  • Your level and item level will be scaled down to an appropriate level for the old raid.
  • You will be able to get rewards that are appropriate for your character level.
  • It will be open during the Burning Crusade timewalking weekly event.
  • It will be tuned towards the low side of Normal difficulty.
  • The team wasn't against making it similar to Raid Finder in difficulty, but the encounters are relatively complex and removing mechanics would ruin the feeling.
  • There may be raid groups that won't be able to clear it and that is okay.
  • You will need to go in with a premade group.
  • A single player could wipe the raid on Gorefiend. The mechanics still exists.

Raid Pacing
  • The raid release pacing in Legion has worked out pretty well so far.

Glory of the Tomb Raider
  • Armaments of the Legion don't exist anymore. They were Legion weapon appearances. There weren't appearances for all types of weapons, so they changed the achievement.
  • The team didn't want to do a mount this time, as class mounts were just unlocked.
  • The Tomb Raider title and pet are in the latest build.

Great Gnomeregan Race
  • This is a micro-holiday that has players run from Gnomeregan to Booty Bay.
  • This was inspired by the Running of the Gnomes community event.
  • Micro-Holidays aren't usually based on real holidays, but instead things that happen or could happen in Azeroth.
  • The team talked to the organizers of the Running of the Gnomes event to make sure they were okay with this event.

Legendary Item Equip Cap
  • There are no plans to increase the cap to 3 at this time.
  • The team has changed legendary items to make them all more competitive with each other.
  • Increasing the cap to 3 would make it take longer for alts and more casual players to catch up.
  • Keeping the cap at 2 also allows for more flexibility to wear different set pieces and keep the bonuses.

Third Relic Slot
  • There aren't plans to make the third relic slot available right away at Level 110. The team wants it to be a reward for completing your campaign.
  • The amount of effort required for each step has been reduced as the expansion went on.

Order Hall Champion Item Level
  • There are no plans to add a champion item level catch up item at this time.
  • This kind of catch up was more important in Warlords, as missions were more essential to your gameplay.
  • The Elite Strike missions do require a higher item level and adding a catch up mechanism takes away from these missions being challenging.

Chromie Scenario
  • You are scaled to item level 1000 and level 112.
  • There is a talent research mechanic, allowing you to unlock talents as you earn reputation with her.
  • You can keep running the scenario if you want, but you may want to wait for the talents to unlock.
  • There isn't any kind of gating here, you can do it at Level 110 as much as you want.
  • This isn't really Legion content, so it shouldn't go away. In theory you will be able to do it in future expansions still.

Solo Content
  • Deaths of Chromie works better with just a single player, as it allows for storytelling. If two players are different points were to go in, one would either skip content or have to redo content.
  • Withered Army Training taught the team a lot. There was stress that came from the lockout, the mandatory feeling, the tuning for different classes and specs.
  • Deaths of Chromie attempts to address those issues. Tuning was looked at more carefully and there should be less stress now.
  • Originally the scenario called for Chromie to save someone else from death, maybe Alexstrasza, Thrall, or Jaina.

Solo Content
  • Heirlooms will be upgradeable to Level 110.
  • You will be able to learn Azeroth flight paths from a Heirloom like item.
  • New PvP Brawls are coming, Temple of Kotmogu with haste, 6v6 battlegrounds, arena maps that are 15v15 or 10v10.
This article was originally published in forum thread: Developer Q&A - Senior Game Designer Paul Kubit started by chaud View original post
Comments 59 Comments
  1. dumkin's Avatar
    Why adding back the MoP cm gear this way? It doesnt make any sense. I feel that my work to get all the class sets is just wasted. Sure you can call me special snowflake, but I loved that i could be recognized for my PvE effort, not my transmog skills. I sure wouldnt mind them re-adding the sets, just keep them obtainable from the same type of content...
  1. mmoc4ce4b1614a's Avatar
    Trial of Style rewards are previously obtainable transmog appearances, but they aren't as easy or desirable to get anymore.
    If something isn't desirable, why make it a reward? That's just silly...
  1. Lycanthro's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dumkin View Post
    Why adding back the MoP cm gear this way? It doesnt make any sense. I feel that my work to get all the class sets is just wasted. Sure you can call me special snowflake, but I loved that i could be recognized for my PvE effort, not my transmog skills. I sure wouldnt mind them re-adding the sets, just keep them obtainable from the same type of content...
    They're not adding back the Mists CM gear.
  1. Myzou's Avatar
    The upgrade item will bring your legendary to item level 970, so you will only have to do the upgrade once.
    Erm, what? So it works on all our legendaries? Or did they mean once per item? Cause that's kinda... what has always happened, so I don't understand why they'd specify that?
  1. AmazonDruid's Avatar
    The team didn't want to do a mount this time, as class mounts were just unlocked.
    Druids now are going to be extra pi$$ed.

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    The team didn't want to do a mount this time, as class mounts were just unlocked.
    Druids now are going to be extra pi$$ed.
  1. aeuhe4yxzhds's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by dumkin View Post
    Why adding back the MoP cm gear this way? It doesnt make any sense. I feel that my work to get all the class sets is just wasted. Sure you can call me special snowflake, but I loved that i could be recognized for my PvE effort, not my transmog skills. I sure wouldnt mind them re-adding the sets, just keep them obtainable from the same type of content...
    Same thing can be said about every gear and mount that drops from previous raids.

    Such bad argument and logic.
  1. mmoc2469da80bf's Avatar
    A fiery gun might look odd. (warcraftdevs)

    Looking at the paladin class pack mule mount , "odd" isn't a strange concept for you guys it seems .
  1. Coconut's Avatar
    The team didn't want to do a mount this time, as class mounts were just unlocked.
    There can never be too many mounts...

    Besides, class mounts aren't THAT big of a deal. Ok, I can appreciate that they wanted to do them, but they come with some severe downsides, since:

    a. They're gonna be pretty common, to the point you're not gonna want to use them (I expect if your Class Hall allows mounts, they're gonna be the new Core Hounds for a while).
    b. They offer very little gameplay relative to how much work went in the models. If you don't have alts, the other mounts might as well not exist, and even if you do most of the chain is repeated content and over with fairly quickly.

    Why would they feel the need to cancel a Glory mount for this? It feels very counter intuitive, if not borderline idiotic.
  1. Zequill's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Myzou View Post
    Erm, what? So it works on all our legendaries? Or did they mean once per item? Cause that's kinda... what has always happened, so I don't understand why they'd specify that?
    I hope it mean all legendaries but if not, one of my alt still got a 910 (I didn't play it much since last upgrade) so it mean I don't have to do the old quest or the new quest twice to get it to the new cap.
  1. BannedForViews's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zequill View Post
    I hope it mean all legendaries but if not, one of my alt still got a 910 (I didn't play it much since last upgrade) so it mean I don't have to do the old quest or the new quest twice to get it to the new cap.
    But those of us with 15+ legendaries on one character should be upgrading them until Argus?
  1. vasser's Avatar
    World Quests

    The base item level of World Quest rewards won't be going up. They went up in Patch 7.2.
    this makes me sad, i enjoy playing alts (i don't raid much) and getting gear from wq is how i get my alts' gear :-/
  1. dumkin's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by aeuhe4yxzhds View Post
    Same thing can be said about every gear and mount that drops from previous raids.

    Such bad argument and logic.
    Just because they have done it with earlier content as well, doesnt mean I agree with that either.
  1. Softbottom's Avatar
    The team has changed legendary items to make them all more competitive with each other.

    Good joke boys
  1. Emerald Archer's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedForViews View Post
    But those of us with 15+ legendaries on one character should be upgrading them until Argus?
    Not that long at all lol, it will be EASILY 2 upgrades a week if it works the same way, possibly 3.
  1. Traveler Voltin's Avatar
    Finally the heirloom fp thing.

    And so much for my question.
  1. xaju's Avatar
    Illusions on Hunter Weapons
    -The team didn't make the technical changes to add enchant appearances to bows and guns.
    -A fiery gun might look odd.
    I beg to differ.
  1. Zequill's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedForViews View Post
    But those of us with 15+ legendaries on one character should be upgrading them until Argus?
    You might have miss the part I said "I hope" and I was explaining why the Dev would had said you only need 1 to upgrade your legendary sadly without "s". But yeah, if you want to upgrade that #15 legendary that you never use, you will upgrade them until Argus if they go one at a time.
  1. mmoc4ce4b1614a's Avatar
    The upgrade parts will be just like the one we do now from 910 -> 940, meaning one Legendary at a time. Only difference is that it will work on both 910 and 940, so you don't have to go 910-940-970 but can just do 910-970 in one go. Per item.
  1. morph4037's Avatar
    The team has changed legendary items to make them all more competitive with each other.
    April 1st has been over for some time now dudes.

    The team didn't want to do a mount this time, as class mounts were just unlocked.
    That sounds like the "team" is either lazy or just losing steam and they don't give two shits anymore...

    On top of that the Druid mount is flat out half assed with missing animations, it not counting as a mount for achievement purposes, or just being a separate "form" button.
  1. vorchun's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Emerald Archer View Post
    Not that long at all lol, it will be EASILY 2 upgrades a week if it works the same way, possibly 3.
    It will be 2 upgrades a week top and that's if you do all that pvp shit, otherwise it's 1 per week.

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