Method - Mythic Tomb of Sargeras World First
Tomb of Sargeras has been cleared on Mythic difficulty by Method after 654 wipes on Kil'Jaeden. Congratulations to them!



This article was originally published in forum thread: Method - Mythic Highmaul World First started by chaud View original post
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  1. apelsinjuice's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Klabernia View Post
    this is far from being casual ... u are a hardcore player .. a casual player doesn not have 6 chars with the potential to clear heroic ToS

    i think u dont know what u are talking about
    kids living in their moms basement playing 10 hours/day think its casual
  1. Buichi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    You idiots were so worried about rankings in late game that you were wiping to BOT from your moronic core raiders pushing phases and double spawning solar flares. Yes a lot of OG Illidan players saw your logs after you kicked me, yes they declared you a toxic cesspool of nothingness because you are.
    Yeah... Killing the boss faster is a problem.............. Wait could you mean you didn't know how to stand on another player that doesn't have Call of Night? Or not to stand in fire? Or possibly eating spores non-stop?
  1. Uramog's Avatar
    Gee Gee \m/_
  1. makketota's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubbl3 View Post
    Over 1000 tries on the last two bosses is a new record for a world first.
    Honestly I think the should bring back limited attempts, so that time investment becomes less of a factor, and more guilds are able to compete. Right now its just Method vs Exorsus.
  1. Shakou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Klabernia View Post
    this is far from being casual ... u are a hardcore player .. a casual player doesn not have 6 chars with the potential to clear heroic ToS

    i think u dont know what u are talking about
    Because having a bunch of characters I mainly only do a bit of mythic+ on and farm gold with is very hardcore and requires soooo much effort.

    Have you ever considered minding your own business? cuz you should do that as you come off like a dumbass know-it-all kid with zero life experience who thinks that your opinion about things that are totally relative to the person are fact.
  1. T Man's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by rikudo View Post
    5 druids and 5 rogues

    Bring the player not class, remember Blizzard?
    That statement was based at the casual normal raiding guild and you know it.
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  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by makketota View Post
    Honestly I think the should bring back limited attempts, so that time investment becomes less of a factor, and more guilds are able to compete. Right now its just Method vs Exorsus.
    Pretty sure only one boss ever had that and it was because of it being a bonus boss.

    For main bosses it has no place. If guilds want to invest time then that is their decision and they should not be punished for wanting to do so.
  1. Rojz's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by thilicen View Post
    Surprised to see they only have 1-2 artifact levels more than me, a semi-casual who's now at 4/9 heroic with no grinding going on between. I guess the whole "forced to do everything and play 24/7 to be competitive" thing is pure bullshit. Who would have guessed.
    Well the thing is that after 60 traits. I will take ages to get 1 trait. The peron atm with the most traits is at 65, and that is with almost 100m AP in the weapon. And that's with m+ farming day and night 24/7. So I would say that around 57-60 traits is kinda hardcore for a raiding guild that is pushing for WF.
  1. SkagenRora's Avatar
    I Never really understood why people enjoy this Trial & Error/Try, try, try again Kind of gameplay. I play/raid for gear/loot and only for that to advance my character. So i would rather the raids be quick and easy to get the loot as fast as possible. I don't see the fun in doing 653 wipes on something, there's better things to spend your time on. I was in a Mythic raiding guild once, every raid that we just did "Progression" and with not even 1 boss kill was pure torture and just boredom beyond comprehension.
  1. globenstine's Avatar
    i dont even know why they call it a race. its not like anyone but method is going to "win". as if they have actually won anything anyways. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  1. Strawberry's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by globenstine View Post
    i dont even know why they call it a race. its not like anyone but method is going to "win". as if they have actually won anything anyways. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    This.
    Sure, they maybe get some money from sponsors. But so much life wasted.
  1. Jtbrig7390's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Pretty sure only one boss ever had that and it was because of it being a bonus boss.
    TOGC (mite have been just for a achievement tho, can't remember) and the TOS/Uld bonus bosses had that setup.

    Funny enough the TOS boss still has that, It was never removed.
  1. Shakou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Pretty sure only one boss ever had that and it was because of it being a bonus boss.

    For main bosses it has no place. If guilds want to invest time then that is their decision and they should not be punished for wanting to do so.
    And confirmed MOP baby. Limited attempts was sort of a thing in Ulduar with Algalon, it had a 1 hour timer to kill the boss at first (you could wipe as many times as you needed in the hour, however), and then in Trial of the Crusader there was a max of 50 attempts to clear the whole place every week, in ICC once all wings had opened there were 20 weekly attempts available to kill the final boss of each wing + Lich King, later they brought it back for Ra'Den in TOT which had 30 attempts available weekly.
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    And confirmed MOP baby. limited attempts was a thing in Ulduar with Algalon, it had a 1 hour timer to kill the boss, and then in Trial of the Crusader there was a max 50 attempts to clear the whole place, in ICC once all wings had opened there were 20 attempts available to kill the final boss of each wing + Lich King, later they brought it back for Ra'Den in TOT.
    That is why I said pretty sure. I thought I was sure but not fully.

    I started late Wrath so I never got to experience those raids nor learn of their limited attempts. I heard TotGC had it but I didn't know Ulduar did as well.
  1. Faltharion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SkagenRora View Post
    I Never really understood why people enjoy this Trial & Error/Try, try, try again Kind of gameplay. I play/raid for gear/loot and only for that to advance my character. So i would rather the raids be quick and easy to get the loot as fast as possible. I don't see the fun in doing 653 wipes on something, there's better things to spend your time on. I was in a Mythic raiding guild once, every raid that we just did "Progression" and with not even 1 boss kill was pure torture and just boredom beyond comprehension.
    LFR is right for you, serious, stick to it.

    But...
    That's the type of attitude that i dislike from some players in the player base, entitled people that think things should be showered to them just because they exist. If everything is easy, there's no point in doing it. The point of the game is the challenge itself, to get the best gear you get the highest challenge. It's the carrot in the end of the stick.

    If you don't like it maybe this is not a game for you? What's even the point of calling it a game if there's no hurdle, no difficulty in it? In fact i wouldn't call that a game, i would call it a story, a movie or a video, not a game. A game has Failure and Defeat associated to it. Demanding victory with no defeat is to mind puzzling.
  1. Shakou's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    That is why I said pretty sure. I thought I was sure but not fully.

    I started late Wrath so I never got to experience those raids nor learn of their limited attempts. I heard TotGC had it but I didn't know Ulduar did as well.
    ICC had them as well, but ya fair enough. I don't think it's a good mechanic either, and I think this argument that they should put such artificial blocks to "give others a chance at world firsts" is silly, they don't have any more a chance with less attempts than they do with more.
  1. Logwyn's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by SkagenRora View Post
    I Never really understood why people enjoy this Trial & Error/Try, try, try again Kind of gameplay. I play/raid for gear/loot and only for that to advance my character. So i would rather the raids be quick and easy to get the loot as fast as possible. I don't see the fun in doing 653 wipes on something, there's better things to spend your time on. I was in a Mythic raiding guild once, every raid that we just did "Progression" and with not even 1 boss kill was pure torture and just boredom beyond comprehension.
    654 attempts. Isn't impressive. Just keep pulling and the numbers will all line up. Brute force it... no skill. Just having the time to sit there and do it over and over again is all this is. If each attempt averages 5 min. Its something like 2.5 days of pulling. I'm not impressed. I guess if I could quit my job and just play wow 24/7 I could be one of these celebrated "best in the worlders"
  1. tikcol's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Cashcate View Post
    It sounds fake, why's that?
  1. Segus1992's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Shakou View Post
    Maybe try waiting when someone is obviously editing a post, they don't raid daily outside of progress. Leveling up toons doesn't take that long actually, nor does gearing them up to be raid ready when you have a guild of the best players in the world and a good system in place to minimize the amount of time it takes to do this.

    You know what I'm just putting you people on ignore, you don't know what you're talking about a nd you're not worth talking to.
    Wow, talk about weak ass excuse followed by simply shoving your head in the sand to avoid backlash. Big man.

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