World of Warcraft – Gameplay and Systems Deep Dive

Man they really are trying to set a record for different ways to repackage the same thing.

Seems to be the B team expansion in the cycle. Cata -> WOD -> This

It's borderline an embarrassment from a creative stand point. Blizzard is good when backed against a wall and has to bring out something compelling (like they did with Legion). When they get comfortable they do the more of the same thing crap. Actually this even feels like a step backward...

The new zones look pretty.
Islands are scenarios with random mobs on island maps (probably will be like 5 maps)
Warfronts are BG's with resources you use.
Allied races are re-skinned existing races. Horde I suppose kind of gets 2 new races (different animations, skeletons) and a modified current, while ally gets 3 modified races (this is all overall a positive addition though)

That's pretty much it for "new" stuff right?

I honestly don't really care about new quests, dungeons, raids. It all kind of feels the same.

How i wish we could have a huge ocean to explore... I kinda get why it's hard to do in wow, but it's bittersweet. Mapping it for yourself, without being able to use the world map, so you actually learn where to go or just don't find it. Or get ferried by a friend. Would be so amazing.

Only thing that interests me are war warfronts. But even those will get old after a few weeks.

Originally Posted by ComputerNerd

If this currency is deemed "mandatory", it will suck because we are "forced" to max out the grinding of it.
If it is optional, it is useless.

It will be despised no matter what the form.

True, but if you have multiple ways to grind it, you will grow to despise it much later.

Originally Posted by darkest4

Everything in this expansion just feels like a lazy reskin/rename... Artifact necks are just slightly tweaked artifact weapons without any of the cool weapon models. Subraces recolors of the normal races. Islands looks like the boring ass legion invasion 3 man scenarios with some randomness thrown in, meh. Feels like they put their B team on this and told them to just reskin the Legion systems and sent the good devs to work on a new game or something. Starting to wish Legion was just the last expansion and they went out with a bang and worked on a new MMO + Warcraft 4 or just WoW 2 with a new engine and what not. As is, if these are the type of reskin expansions we have to look forward to, WoW is going to die a slow and miserable death.

They made the best cinematic trailer ever. That's about it. Probably rushed the work on that early this time for the hype because they knew they had nothing compelling to show of the actual gameplay..

This !!!

/agree ... 101%

Originally Posted by Tackhisis

What victor can be there between two player-controlled factions? That's just retarded.

Anyone who paid attention during any of this stuff will have seen that there are raids. When raids were presented you saw some ahn'qiraj kind of stuff, also later on there was an image of Queen Azshara, if you think the entire expansion will be Alliance vs Horde then you're not paying attention. It will start like that with probably some Old God stuff coming out later on while we are focused on the battle

So greater rifts moved from D3 to WoW?

and the fly? they will keep us grouded till patch 8.9.9 doing that fucking pathfinder again?

Originally Posted by Peacemoon

I'm a bit worried random instanced content will get quite boring fast. It feels like the Legion invasions we invade which weren't quite as interesting as it first sounded. We already have dungeons - what is the purpose of this other than a grind?

The one thing scenarios have going for them over dungeons and raids is that roles don't matter. You can usually 3 dps the scenarios, and as such you can use all of your tricks more often like binding shot for hunters. Where as if you had a tank, unless you're communicating well most won't drag mobs out of binding shot to get that sweet 5 sec stun, mostly because they don't notice it going down in the dense pack of mobs. So queue times should be super short like scenarios, I really loved them in MoP.... so far the only thing I'm kind of interested in this expansion.

Originally Posted by Mojo03

I honestly don't really care about new quests, dungeons, raids. It all kind of feels the same.

It sounds to me like you're looking for a different genre of game. What more could they add at this point, mechanically? A version of PVP that works like a 2D fighting game? A dating simulator? I would say that's a joke, but we already have a built-in Pokemon clone, platforming puzzles, farming and base-building minigames, etc. How much more can they even add to this game?

I mean, you spend a lot of time talking about how you don't care about anything in the game, but I don't see you typing out what features or content you want to see. What would even satisfy you at this point?

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Originally Posted by Ristow

and the fly? they will keep us grouded till patch 8.9.9 doing that fucking pathfinder again?

Isn't it clear at this point that Blizzard and the majority of the playerbase is happy with the pathfinder system?

You can complain until you're blue in the face but I don't think it's going to change.