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by Published on 2015-07-02 07:38 AM

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Mythic Hellfire Citadel Progression
Both the US and EU are working on Mythic progression now. So far five guilds have killed Kilrogg, putting them at 5/13. You can keep up with the latest progress on WoWProgress, our forum thread, and Manaflask.

Patch 6.2 Hotfixes - July 1
The Naval Mission hotfixes are live on WoWDB. A few aren't in the notes:

  • Ship Blueprint: Battleship now requires Friendly, down from Honored.
  • Hoard Overboard was increased to 8 hours, up from 4. The cost was doubled to 100 Oil. The experience rewarded was increased to 3000, up from 1200.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
  • Work orders for tier-2 and -3 small plot buildings now work as normal if the player skipped completing the tier-1 tutorial quests.

  • Most long Naval Missions have been reduced to a time of 18 hours or less.
    • For Naval Missions currently underway, mission times will not change.
    • The duration of Raid-type Naval Missions has been reduced from 2 days to 4 hours. They will continue to immediately respawn if not completed.
  • Gold and Apexis Crystal rewards for Naval Missions that reward those currencies have been increased.
    • For Naval Missions currently underway, gold and Apexis Crystal rewards will be larger when the Mission is completed.
  • Oil costs for most missions have been increased.
    • For Naval Missions currently underway, Oil costs will not change.
  • The amount of Oil you receive from the Oil Rig has been doubled.
  • While in a raid group, players can now progress through "Upgrading The Fleet" and "Naval Domination" and increment quest credit as well as turn in the quest once completed.
  • Ship Blueprint: Battleship now requires 'friendly' faction standing to be obtained.
  • We continue to insist that the Shipyard grant players resting XP.

  • Felbound Wolf now count towards the demons slain count for the quest "Demonslayer of Tanaan".
  • Fixed a bug that was preventing Fel Pylons from always spawning during the quest “Assault on the Temple of Sha'naar”.
  • Alliance players who accept the Gorgrond breadcrumb quest from the Adventure Guide are now given the flight point to Gorgrond.
  • Completing the quest "Rumble in the Jungle" should now award the King of the Jungle buff, as intended.


Dungeons and Raids
  • Entering or leaving a Timewalking dungeon no longer removes tracking auras.

Hellfire Citadel
Socrethar the Eternal
  • Sargerei Dominator now always properly shields Soul of Socrethar after becoming active.
  • Archimonde will now heal for 5% of his maximum health if Nether Banish hits fewer than 3 players.


Creatures and NPCs
  • A Grom’kar Deadeye in Fang’rila who was respawning too fast has been taught to chill out for a while after being killed.
  • The bonus roll option for Supreme Lord Kazzak now resets weekly.
  • Fixed a bug that was preventing players from looting both Soulslicer and The Blackfang on the same day.
  • Call to Arms NPCs no longer taunt bosses such as Supreme Lord Kazzak. They still have and use Taunt on other types of creatures.

Bug Fixes
  • Fixed an issue where mail with attachments could not be returned to original sender.
  • Fixed an issue where in-game mail from Blizzard Customer Support could not be deleted.
  • Attempting to apply Naval Equipment to a Ship (e.g. Felsmoke Launcher) will now display a blue outline around valid slots where the equipment can be applied.
  • Fixed an issue that would cause the Adventure Journal to display alerts too frequently.
  • Fixed an issue where some items that cost Alternate Currency (Mogu Rune of Fate, Ironpaw Token, etc) could not be purchased from vendors.
  • Fixed an issue for Mac users where in-game resolution would not be saved properly when switching between Fullscreen and Windowed mode.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Flying Patch Delay
I agree with OP flying is just flipping a switch. all the BS about this and that is just them stretching out the fact they don't want people flying around tannan and just blowing thru the content in 24 hours.
It's a compelling narrative for the cynical among us, but it's simply not true. We gain nothing by trying to be intentionally deceptive in the way we design and release content. I wish more people could understand that, even when they disagree with some of our design decisions.

think of it like the Belf and goat zones. you can fly in BC but sot these areas because the building don't have finished tops. in WoD all the building are finished and the feather shoots you up max height before starting the fall. its not exactly flying but it shows that everything is finished. also its not like the land is coded in a different way from the rest of the game that would make flying difficult.
That doesn't mean every inch of the terrain is bug free and there are no invisible walls in certain locations. People who have gotten really creative with the feather and glider can attest to this. While Draenor wasn't built with 2D backdrops and such for buildings, the way some areas in vanilla WoW were built, that doesn't mean a simple toggle will allow everyone to fly anywhere they want without running into any issues.

We weren't sure at the outset of designing Draenor whether or not flying would be enabled at some point, but that doesn't mean every art and design team ensured from day one that every bit of the world was designed with flying in mind. WoW is a very big game with a lot of programming under the hood. Changes need to be made and testing needs to be done before characters are able to explore everywhere from the skies.

Any small bug or environment quirk could lead to any number of issues that we want to make sure are addressed before we flip "the toggle." In other words, there is no toggle.

I imagine its not so much unlocking flight for that character as much as it is coding it to unlock for all of your 90+ characters on your account and making sure that aspect works correctly that's cause them to delay it to a patch after 6.2 rather than in it.
This is also correct. It's not just about the environment, but also the systems in place to make sure flying is appropriately rewarded to each character based on the criteria. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Salty Crew - Garrison Ability
The Salty Crew ship modifier was tested in the public test realm, but was not added to the game with patch 6.2.

Is there anyway to counter "Expert Captain"?
Yes. Use ships that have modifiers that increase success chance (Undead Crew, Human Crew, Pandaren Crew if it's a long mission), or sail under a buff like Air Superiority, or combine ships that modify each other. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Naval Mission Changes
We didn't nerf the building. Its effectiveness remains unchanged. We DID nerf many of the naval mission times and buffed the rewards.

All of this should be relatively good news as far as shipyards are concerned.

What about instances of the Mission Completion Orders drastically increasing the time to complete existing naval missions? I applied a few completion orders about an hour ago, and they added anywhere between 5 and 18 hours to the missions they were used on.

Normally I wouldn't be fussing about something like this, but this pushes back my ability to continue the Legendary quest chain by another day.

For anyone who wasted Mission Completion Orders while this hotfix was applied, wherein the order didn't work as intended by instantly completing the mission, you can contact Customer Support and request a refund of the item.

So. The fix doesn't seem to affect missions already in progress which means the better part of my fleet will still be gone for three days.
That's something we couldn't really make happen via hotfix for in-progress missions. Sorry.

Edit: However, any gold and Apexis Crystal rewards for those in-progress missions should properly be increased when the missions are completed.

And how do I go about doing that? Call them? Send an in-game ticket?
Yea, open up an in-game ticket and let them know that your Mission Completion Order didn't work as a result of the hotfix to naval missions today, and that you were instructed by a community manager on the forums to request to have that item restored for you.

This added the original duration of a mission to my remaining time. A two day mission with 11 hours left, now has 2 days and 11 hours remaining. Thanks.
It's absolutely an unfortunate bug that came out of applying this hotfix, and for that we apologize. Going forward though this change will be very helpful.

This is nice but the issue isn't really the item itself. It is the time lost. Unless the item is refunded almost immediately (opening a ticket will probably take longer than the mission anyway) and will work on the affected missions it doesn't really help anything. You are still out 2-3 days on your ships because of this bug.
I've been told Customer Support is unable to reset the mission for you. Getting the item back to use again on another mission still has some value. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Rated Battleground Rewards
We've isolated the issue and have a working fix. However, due to the nature of the bug itself, the fix will not take effect until our next maintenance period.

To provide some additional detail on the fix: we've had to slightly restructure how the box is awarded. Once the fix is in place, you'll be automatically given a quest to win three Rated Battlegrounds when you enter one (unless you already have the quest, or have already completed it, of course).

This also has the benefit of making the process a lot more transparent to the player, so you can know for certain once the fix is live: if you're not getting the quest, it hasn't been fixed yet. You will need to make sure you have space in your quest log to receive the quest. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Character / Items
Naval Mission "One Way or Another" doesn't award the 10 Abrogator stones it claims. Successfully completed and got ZERO.
Check your bags, you should see that you got them. There’s currently a bug w/ Garrison mission rewards updating the Quest Tracker. (WarcraftDevs)

will Brazier of Awakening become a toy?
Generally items that have gameplay utility aren’t added to the Toy Box. (WarcraftDevs)

I read twitter & forums like ours, MMO-C & AJ. I see the feedback, including the unpleasant stuff. We will continue working to improve PvP. (holinka)
Any chance on letting queuing in raids back in for Ashran? Was a fun experience w/group finder, sad to see them go.
No because it caused a litany of problems. I'll try to elaborate in a future forum post. (holinka)

. Will the conquest gear from Ashran/RBG boxes have sockets/warforged?
No, they do not. (WarcraftDevs)

Imo mines and race track take a little too long now.
good feedback, thank you (holinka)

can you at least say that you're aware of the faction unbalance in this expansion? 70% win BGs for alliance
Yes it is very concerning. (holinka)
Could you possibly ellaborate on your plans to address it? It's kind of nice seeing you tweet and reply about things.
Unfortunately I cannot. Plans change for a myriad of reasons. It is better to share when we are more (i.e. 100%) sure (holinka)

What is twilight magic? Is it a branch of Fel magic?
Old god magic, void I think? (Muffinus)

Isn't fel magic chaos and chaos kinda combines all schools?
Void and Fel are definitely different things. Entropy vs. absolute 0. (Muffinus)
Doesn't fel energy combine all types of energies since it's chaos magic? The chaos school in-game combines all schools.
In the editor, yes. Lore-wise? Up in the air. May be further defined in the future. (Muffinus)

term used interchangeably with life energy and life essence, as a power source. A source states blood (which was called life
IMO, not really. Life uses life energy, emerald dream stuff. Fel uses souls as energy, erasing them from existence. (Muffinus)
IMO Imagine you believe in heaven, and you go there, and then suddenly you are wrenched back to Azeroth, and consumed for fuel. (Muffinus)
Then, neverending blackness. And Sargeras calls to you. Do you want to end this? Serve him. Eternally. (Muffinus)
Just my opinion though (Muffinus)

Fel magic is a form of life magic.
There is a difference between using the elements in harmony (shaman) and using them through force (twilight) (Muffinus)

Using souls and harmonizing with the life energy of Azeroth are polar opposites. (Muffinus)
Souls are undead and if warlocks drain and channel souls against their will wouldn't that make them necromancers?
Controlling demons is one thing, understanding Dreadlord rezzing magic and undead is entirely another area of study. (Muffinus)
But doesn't necromancy extend to controlling souls/spirits/ghosts?
Draining a soul and rezzing it are not the same. Death Knights use a different branch of magic than you. (Muffinus)
But if you are draining and channeling a soul against its will and souls are undead aren't you controlling undead, thus performing
You're not controlling it, you're stealing it. You can enslave demon, you can't enslave undead. (Muffinus)
Draining a soul and channeling it like a puppet is basically the same as controlling a soul lol
Similar schools, different magical academies. (Muffinus)

Road to BlizzCon: WoW North American Arena Qualifiers
If you are looking for more arena action, take a look at ESL's new tournaments.
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
The march down the road to BlizzCon 2015 is about to commence! Arena teams across North America can now sign up for the online North American Qualifiers and fight to become one of six teams that will continue on to the North American Regionals later this year. There, they’ll battle against one team from Latin America and one team from Australia & New Zealand to find out who’s heading to the World Championships at BlizzCon 2015.

Teams will have the opportunity to compete for their place at the NA Regionals over three online cups, produced in partnership with GCDTV:
  • Cup 1: July 14 – July 18 (one team qualifies)
  • Cup 2: July 28 – August 1 (two teams qualify)
  • Cup 3: August 11 – August 15 (three teams qualify)

These cups will use a single-elimination tournament structure. Matches will be best of 3 up until the semifinals, which will be best of 5, with a best of 7 series at the finals. Because of this, we highly encourage teams to make use of the 4-player team roster we’re allowing in this year’s tournament, to allow for some extra flexibility in their team’s class composition.

Brackets will be seeded according to the average Arena Ladder rating (CR) of the three highest-rated players on the team’s roster. Teams who qualify for the North American Regionals will not be allowed to compete again in the online NA Qualifiers. Teams who do not qualify may continue to compete in any remaining cups.

We’ll have more details on these qualifier cups—including when you’ll be able to watch the action live on—in the coming weeks.

Below, you’ll find links to everything you need to know to compete, including official rules and sign-up instructions, so please read everything carefully before you get started.

One notable addition this year is the Macro and Script Whitelist. To help ensure that everyone is on an even playing field, we’ve assembled a list of macros and scripts that we’ve determined are acceptable for players to use in our in-person events, starting with the Regionals through BlizzCon itself. Anything not listed will be disallowed from use during these live competitions.

This restriction will not be in place for the online NA Qualifier cups, but we wanted to present it now to make sure teams have time to prepare. If you feel a vital macro or script has been omitted from the list, you can submit it for consideration by emailing [email protected] (be sure to include “WoW” in the subject line).

In order for an Arena team to be able to compete in the North American Qualifiers, they must fulfill some basic eligibility requirements:

  • The average Arena Ladder rating of the three highest-rated players on the team’s roster must be at least 2000 by July 9th, 2015 to be eligible for Online Cup 1.
    • This rating requirement will be updated for subsequent cups.
  • All players must have appropriate residency:
  • See below for complete details on proof of residency verification

Note: Although players from Australia/New Zealand and some Latin American countries are eligible to compete in the North American Arena Qualifiers, we encourage those players to consider competing at their respective regional qualifiers instead. Players who compete in the Australia & New Zealand or Latin American qualifiers will not be eligible to compete in the NA qualifiers, and vice versa.

Information on qualifiers for those regions can be found here:

Sign Up to Compete
Teams who would like to sign up for the North American Arena Qualifiers can do so via Battlefy. Good luck!

Proof of Residency Verification

Eligibility for Citizens: If the player is a citizen of an eligible country for the World of Warcraft North American Arena Qualifiers, the player must provide a copy of a valid photo ID with a current address within the country.

  • Examples of acceptable identification
    • Government-issued driver’s license
    • Military photo identification card
    • Passport
    • Health card with photo (Canada, Australia, New Zealand)
    • Voter registration card with photo (Mexico)
  • Examples of non-acceptable identification
    • Expired identification
    • School-issued photo identification card
    • Gym membership card
    • Library card
    • Public transportation cards
    • Private ID cards

Eligibility for non-Citizens: If the player is a foreign resident of an eligible country for the World of Warcraft North American Arena Qualifiers, the player must submit a copy of their passport along with a valid resident visa for the eligible country for an evaluation of their residency status. The visa must be acquired before the start of the qualifiers and is only considered valid if it allows the player to stay in the region, work in the region, and earn prize money in the region.

  • Examples of acceptable identification
    • Professional athlete visa
    • Work visa
    • Student visa
  • Examples of non-acceptable identification
    • Expired visa
    • Working holiday visa
    • General tourist/visitor visa
by Published on 2015-07-01 08:24 AM

2.3.0 PTR + patch notes are live!

Tavern Brawl #3 Starts Tomorrow, Angry Chicken #89, Archon Team League Starts Tomorrow

Datamined Patch, Rotation for June 30, 2015, Upcoming Shop Sales, Butcher Hero Trailer

Mythic Hellfire Citadel Progression
The US started Mythic yesterday and the EU won't be far behind today. So far three guilds have killed Kormrok, putting them at 3/13. You can keep up with the latest progress on WoWProgress, our forum thread, and Manaflask.

Patch 6.2 - Hunter's Seeking Crystal
The devs confirmed that some improvements are coming to the seeking crystals and that the cooldown when you aren't near a rare spawn is intended.

If you aren't already taking advantage of Hunter's Seeking Crystal / Master Hunter's Seeking Crystal for collecting Fel-Corrupted Apexis Fragment for the Unseen Influence daily quest, be sure to get Honored / Revered with the Order of the Awakened and buy one!

Patch 6.2 Hotfixes - June 30
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
  • Fixed a bug that was preventing Balance and Restoration Druids from gaining attack power from Intellect in Bear Form or Cat Form.

  • Survival 4-piece set should trigger Shadow Nova on all targets affected by Black Arrow, not just the primary target.

  • Killing Spree no longer provides immunity to Crowd Control abilities, regardless of Battle Fatigue.

  • [In testing] Arms Tier 18 2-piece set bonus chance reduced to 50% (was 60%). Now triggers when Rend ticks are fully absorbed.

Dungeons and Raids
  • Completing a Timewalking dungeon now awards you 36g 57s 50c.
  • Darkmoon Faire Adventure Guide items again drop at the expected rate.

  • The Cache of Arakkoan Treasures on Mythic difficulty now awards consolation loot if no item is won.

Hellfire Citadel
Socrethar the Eternal
  • Fel Dominators now spawn more frequently in all non-Mythic difficulties.
  • Soul of Socrethar's health has been reduced 15% in all non-Mythic difficulties.
  • Fel Dominators should now instantly shield Socrethar when spawning.
  • Nether Storm cannot crit or multi-strike.
  • Archimonde’s Nether Banish no longer counts dead players as valid targets.

  • Shipyard maximum number of ships has been increased by 1 for Tiers 1 and 2, allowing for 6/8/10 active ships at Tiers 1/2/3.


Creatures and NPCs
  • Players should no longer receive zone-wide yells from enemies who are very far away or aren’t available.
  • Players who are hated by the Steamwheedle Cartel factions are no longer attacked by Goblin Sailors in the Shipyard.
  • It is no longer possible for players to bring Helix Gearbreaker outside of Deadmines.
  • Deathtalon will no longer evade when pulled on his pillar.

Bug Fixes
  • Alliance players who created a Shipyard first are now able to complete the quests to unlock their Fishing Shack.
  • Interacting with the Hero's Call Board or the Warchief's Command Board once again brings up the command board interface rather than the Adventure Guide.

Warlords PvP Season 2 Begins
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
With boots and boards and helms and swords, the time has come to strike once more! Warlords of Draenor Arena and Battleground Season 2 has begun, and Horde and Alliance leaders are calling all of their champions to seek victory on the glorious field of battle.

Before you set foot in an Arena or on a Battleground, keep in mind the following adjustments that have been made for this season:
  • The PvP iLevel of Honor and Conquest gear has increased.
    • All gear now scales up to iLvl 690.
    • Wild Aspirant gear is iLvl 700.
    • Wild Combatant gear is iLvl 715.
    • Wild Gladiator gear is iLvl 730.
  • Any PvE gear over iLvl 715 will be scaled down to iLvl 715.
  • Winning Rated Battlegrounds and completing the weekly Ashran Dominance quest now awards you a random piece of PvP iLvl 730 Conquest gear.

Good luck, and may your enemies fall before you this season!

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Ashran Queue Times
The Ashran queue times for many are far from ideal. We're constantly evaluating them and adding more servers as necessary. Due to the demand from Horde and Alliance, we just increased capacity by 50%. We'll continue to monitor the situation. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Kazzak Bonus Rolls
Just killed Kazzak. Got no loot (even gold) except the Apexis and Felblight. I couldn't use a bonus roll, and my raid lockouts have me saved to him. What just happened?
We're aware of the issue with players being unable to use a bonus roll on Kazzak and are working on a fix. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Random Battleground Strongboxes
The intention, as Trill quoted above, is that winning three Rated BG's awards a Strongbox with a guaranteed item in it. That system is currently not working, and so the Strongboxes aren't being awarded.

We're currently chasing down what is causing the issue, so we can fix it. Unfortunately, we will most likely not be able to retroactively award Strongboxes as part of this fix. We'll provide an update once we've traced down the issue and sorted out a fix.

After the fix can we do 3 more RBGs then and get the box then? Or are we just out of luck for the week
I can't say for absolute certain until we've tracked down exactly what's causing the issue, but we believe that will be the case, yes.

do you not test stuff on the ptr?
It was working on the PTR, and in our internal testing, which is why it's a tricky issue to track down. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Loque'nahak lost his unique combat kitty sounds, and is now generic spirit beast cat sounds. Intended? :<
That's... odd, what did it sound like before? (Muffinus)

I'd like to add that as a new player, checking the class trainer really gave an incentive to level to gain power.
See now that's a really interesting point, seeing what's coming. Oh shit what's Pyroblast??? Good call. (Muffinus)

Character / Items
is the Corrupted Nest Guardian (pet off Shadow-Lord Iskar) bonus rollable?
Yes. (WarcraftDevs)

Is "Securing Draenor" achv not account-wide? don't have credit for it on a different char under the "Draenor Pathfinder" meta
Not account wide, but you only need to have it on one character for it to count towards the Pathfinder achievement. (WarcraftDevs)

Felblight "or fishing in Tanaan" is that just schools or both open water and schools?
Great question! Felblight can only be fished out of Felmouth Frenzy schools. (WarcraftDevs)

Hey guys, got a quick question. Can you explain pls what's up with Yrel and Grom who suddenly became best friends?
Consider it an uneasy truce, when the true enemy is revealed and really terrible/green. (Muffinus)
so, why exactly did we kill Ner'zhul then? The guys who wanted to protect his clan gets killed.
The void seems bad. Like, not good. Like bad. (Muffinus)

Saw the Archimonde defeat trailer, and... is Grommash seriously getting away with murdering so many people? Everything forgiven?
I don't think everything is forgiven, but he's seen the atrocities of the Legion, and neither side wants more bloodshed. (Muffinus)
It's better than our Draenor, Outland. An uneasy truce keeps Karabor standing. Maraad died for something after all. (Muffinus)
Because the atrocity of the legion is worst than the atrocity of the iron horde, it's just "k, we are cool"?Hire a writer
Have you played through all of the 6.2 quest content to see how this plays out? (Muffinus)
Grom faces really no consequence for all the evil he's done. Same for scapegoating all Cata Horde decisions on Garrosh
IMO, this is not our world. If Grommash and Yrel can live in harmony, it is a better world. (Muffinus)
That's the point. They shouldn't be able to. Her sister died because of him. Her people died. He's responsible.
He still has armies at his command, what would combat gain? More death? Imo the Draenei are above this. (Muffinus)

Heroes of the Storm - The Butcher Trailer
The Heroes team released a trailer for a new hero, The Butcher.

by Published on 2015-06-30 08:35 AM

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Patch 6.2 - Developer Interview
Vanion had the chance to interview Ion Hazzikostas today. The more interesting points are below, but be sure to listen to the whole thing for context.

  • Hellfire Citadel is more linear than Blackrock Foundry, but there is still choice and variety. Once you get to the second floor, you can choose which order you want to work on the bosses before going through Mannoroth to Archimonde.
  • There are quests like Well of Souls that allow you to skip part of the raid after you have killed bosses a few times.
  • Mythic Archimonde may have some interesting, unexpected, and new things happen once he is at low health.
  • There is no requirement to have killed Archimonde on Heroic before entering Mythic. Restrictions like this have existed in the past, but they were easily bypassed by inviting any player who had killed the boss on Heroic.
  • When the team was planning Warlords, Grommash was set up as the leader of the Iron Horde and the final boss. As they told the story and started working on Hellfire Citadel, they decided it wouldn't be a satisfying direction to go in. Players had just finished a raid zone full of Orcs and had killed another Hellscream. The real evil and more interesting character is Gul'dan and the influence of the Legion.
  • "Is Gul'dan dead or alive?" - "That's a good question"

Legendary Items
  • Once you have your legendary ring, the Crystallized Fel will drop from Archimonde on Normal or greater difficulty. This will scale up the proc and stats, allowing guilds to get slightly stronger every week.
  • The legendary quest previously required you to get 900 legendary quest items, which means you always got some from every boss. This time around, only 33 are required. This means you won't get one from every boss, which may not feel as great but it is tuned to be slightly faster than previous collection steps.
  • Most players should be able to collect all of the Tome of Chaos in a month or so.
  • Raid loot from Garrison missions was exciting, but it devalued participation in the actual raids and undercut the reward structure. When guilds finally moved into Mythic Blackrock Foundry later in the raiding cycle, they already had several Mythic items from garrison missions already, so it wasn't as rewarding as it should have been.
  • The bosses that dropped tokens in previous tiers dropped too many loot items in total, as the token items were separate from the normal loot. The team changed how the tier tokens were dropped in Patch 6.2, but by the time they realized bosses were not dropping enough tokens it was too late. It will be hotfixed for the new raid reset.
  • Figuring out how old style legendary items would fit into current itemization, class balance, and how the game works today is challenging. Creating a legendary weapon that only works for some classes and specs wouldn't work well.

  • Timewalker dungeons are tuned to be easier on purpose, but part of the problem is that classes have so many more capabilities now.
  • The old Shattered Halls could have a Prot Warrior tank who has no AoE threat, just tab Sundering. Situations like that made the dungeons more challenging. Most people didn't have AoE and AoE threat, so tanks couldn't hold threat on all of the mobs at the same time, making CC necessary.
  • Some of the Timewalking dungeons are a little bit too easy right now, such as Black Morass. Arcatraz is tuned a little bit better.
  • The team would like to expand Timewalking to Cataclysm dungeons, as well as expanding the number of dungeons covered by the system in Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King.
  • Figuring out where Timewalking raids would fit in the reward structure is a big part of what it would take to add them. If you are going to form a larger group, you may as well go and raid current content. There are a lot of questions to answer, such as who is the audience, where do the rewards fit in, should you be doing this raid instead of Hellfire Citadel, and is it something you do to gear up for current raids.

Naval Missions
  • If you fail a Naval Mission, the mission will still be there for you to try again.
  • There aren't any plans to reduce the cost of Naval Equipment right now, but the team is keeping an eye on how players are using the items.
  • Players want to maximize their chance of success on every mission, but the team envisioned players just countering the basic ship types and some of the threats, but not every single threat.
  • If players feel that 500 resources are worth it for a small boost in success chance on every mission and actually buy the equipment, adjusting the costs is possible.

  • The team hears the feedback from people that enjoyed solo play in Mists of Pandaria and found it lacking in Draenor.
  • Part of the problem is many of the rewards out in the world were moved into the garrison.
  • In Patch 6.2 they took steps towards fixing things by adding content to the world in Tanaan Jungle and more will be done in future content.
  • The team has been working on Hellfire Citadel and Tanaan Jungle since November 2014, so they were limited in how they could respond to more recent feedback.
  • The Patch 6.2 content was designed in the same mold as the original Warlords of Draenor content, so it feels like the team wasn't listening to feedback, even though they are.
  • Things that are being worked on now will be much more to players liking and the team has taken the feedback to heart.

  • Patch 6.2.x with flying should be on the PTR within the next couple of weeks. It should go live not months and months from now, but some number of weeks.
  • There are no current plans to make all of the Baleful items account wide right now, but it is something that was discussed. If you are playing in Tanaan and already well geared all of the Baleful items aren't useful for you, which doesn't feel great.

Warlords of Draenor - PvP Season 2
The next PvP season begins this week!

Patch 6.2 - Legendary Ring Upgrades
Vanion's interview confirmed that Archimonde will drop Crystallized Fel on Normal or greater difficulty, allowing you to upgrade your ring's stats and proc to item level 795, gaining 3 item levels each time. You can only get one per week, so it will take 20 weeks to hit 795.

Level Type Name
795Finger Sanctus, Sigil of the Unbroken
795Finger Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor
795Finger Etheralus, the Eternal Reward
795Finger Maalus, the Blood Drinker
795Finger Nithramus, the All-Seer

Patch 6.2 Hotfixes - June 29
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Class Trinket Tuning Changes
Please note that the following changes to class trinkets are currently still in testing.

Raid Finder Armor Set Tuning Changes
The following changes have been made to set armor pieces found on Raid Finder difficulty.

Blackrock Foundry
Ebonflame Cloth Armor
  • 4-piece set bonus for Healers now has an 8-second internal cooldown (up from 3 seconds).
Sootfur Leather Armor
  • 4-piece set bonus for Damage Dealing Spellcasters no longer triggers twice on crits.
  • 4-piece set bonus for Healers now has an 8-second internal cooldown (up from 3 seconds).
  • 4-piece set bonus for Tanks now has an increased proc rate of approximately [1.7, increased by Haste] per minute (up from [0.85, increased by Haste]).
Ashlink Mail Armor
  • 4-piece set bonus for Damage Dealing Spellcasters had its damage dealt reduced by 75% and has an 8-second internal cooldown (up from 3 seconds).
Blacksteel Plate Armor
  • 4-piece set bonus for Healers now heals each successive target in the chain for 50% less than the previous target, and reduced the number of targets in the chain to 3 (down from 4).
  • 4-piece set bonus for Tanks now has an increased proc rate of approximately [1.7, increased by Haste] per minute (up from [0.85, increased by Haste]).

Hellfire Citadel
Felfume Cloth Armor
Ironpelt Leather Armor
  • 4-piece set bonus for Healers now has a 3-second internal cooldown.
  • 4-piece set bonus for Tanks now has a 2-second internal cooldown. The change should have a negligible impact on throughput.
Rancorbite Mail Armor
  • 4-piece set bonus for Physical Damage Dealers no longer scales with Attack Power, the Fel Explosion effect is now centered on the target, and has a 3-second internal cooldown.
  • 4-piece set bonus for Damage Dealing Spellcasters now has a 3-second internal cooldown.
Demonbreaker Plate Armor

Death Knight
  • Obliterate should now correctly deal full damage against other players in PvP combat.

Armor Sets
  • [Hotfix in testing] Tier-18 4-piece set bonus for Survival Hunters should now correctly trigger Shadow Nova on all targets affected by Black Arrow, not just on the primary target. Additionally, Shadow Nova should be be correctly benefitting from the Tier-18 2-piece set bonus, Black Decay.

  • [Requires a realm restart] Fixed several issues that made Roll and Chi Torpedo work inconsistently. The abilities should now always travel a consistent distance, be unaffected by snare effects, and reach the destination faster with increased stacking movement speed.
  • Fixed an issue where Surging Mist had no resource cost while Timewalking.

  • Killing Spree should now correctly only provide immunity to roots, snares, and knockback effects.
Armor Sets


Armor Sets

Creatures and NPCs
Tanaan Jungle
  • Savage Whale Shark should now drop Equipment Blueprint: Trained Shark Tank for all players that have attacked it.
  • Fixed an issue where Sargerei Nullifier could immediately despawn after being defeated.
  • Fixed an issue where players may occasionally defeat a version of The Night Haunter that does not have loot.
  • Kor'lok should no longer knock players out of Ashran with his ability, MASSIVE Kick!

  • Fixed an issue affecting quests that required the player to target something with a quest item or ability not correctly providing credit towards completing the quest.
Tanaan Jungle

Raids and Dungeons

  • Group leaders are now able to re-queue if someone leaves a Timewalking dungeon group.

Hellfire Citadel
Hellfire High Council
  • Blademaster Jubei'thos should no longer incorrectly reset the number of battle resurrections available to the raid group when he uses his Windwalk ability.
Iron Reaver
  • Fixed an issue that could cause the Iron Reaver to animate incorrectly and face the wrong way when using the Blitz ability.
  • Fixed an issue where Iron Reaver's Blitz ability could cause players to be stuck when attempting to use a flight path after the encounter.
  • Gorebound Spirits should no longer summon players out of the world and teleport to them instead.
  • Players in the stomach phase in the Gorefiend encounter should now always be able to see the circle denoting where the exit is.
Socrethar the Eternal
  • Sargerei Shadowcaller's Shadow Word: Agony can no longer be copied by Dark Simulacrum.
Fel Lord Zakuun
  • Wake of Destruction should no longer incorrectly deal more damage than intended if multiple players are standing on top of each other when it explodes.
  • Fixed an issue where Mannoroth can go into evade mode if his primary target is knocked into a Fel Spire.
  • [Hotfix in testing] Archimonde will now heal for 5% of his maximum health if Nether Banish hits less than 3 players.
  • Archimonde's Nether Banish should now be able to target players under the effects of Wrought Chaos, Focused Chaos, or Shackled Torment in Phase 3.
  • Archimonde no longer casts Demonic feedback before Nether Banished had faded in Phase 3.
  • Shadowed Netherwalkers should now attack players when they enter the Twisting Nether, regardless of where they are on the platform.

  • Fixed an issue where players may incorrectly receive a Silver Strongbox for the previous Warlords PvP Season.
  • Slightly increased the delay between events.
  • Champion's Honor can no longer be used before the start of the relevant Warlords PvP Season.


Toy Box
  • Vial of Red Goo should now correctly prevent players from performing actions while they're transformed.

Bug Fixes
  • Players on a mount using the flight master at Vol'mar or Lion's Watch to fly to the Throne of Kil'jaeden should now be correctly dismounted.
  • Fixed an issue where Rogue Tier-18 Normal armor set was incorrectly using the appearance of the Mythic armor set.
  • Fixed an issue where Draenor Siege Engines and Demolishers did not have a cooldown on their first ability.
  • Fixed an issue where player combat pets were not being automatically resummoned after leaving a vehicle.
  • Fixed an issue where abilities that trigger when a target leaves an area like Binding Shot or Ursol’s Vortex were incorrectly still triggering its effects after the ability has expired.
  • Fixed an issue where players were able to retain the Well-Rested buff from Leatherworking Tents while in a Raid instance.

Blue Posts
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Battleground Spec Bug
queued as shadow. loaded in as shadow (or so it said in my talents) with shadowform up, but in my spellbook i only had disc spells. my bars were my shadow bars but with disc specific spells replacing where they'd usually go (so they were all over the place).

when i tried to use disc spells it said i hadn't learned them yet. i checked my mastery and that kinda confirmed i was shadow (shows in the screenshot).

Yeah, there's a bug where sometimes the game pulls outdated information about your character when you load into an Arena or Battleground. We think we've isolated what's causing it and are working on a hotfix. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Corrupted Dread Raven Animation
We're aware of the issue and working on a fix for it, but it'll require a patch to implement. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Raiding games that aren't MMOs - why isn't that a thing? Any thoughts?
Very interesting question to consider. Some thoughts, though keep in mind that they're just my personal opinion... (craig_amai)
Few (no?) games focus purely on large raids (like WoW/Wildstar) largely because it's difficult to form social groups that size. (craig_amai)
In MMOs, solo and small-group gameplay get people into the game so that they can form those kinds of larger social groups. (craig_amai)
Any design that aims to form tight groups of 10+ is probably going to need something approachable (solo?) to start players off. (craig_amai)
Instead, that kind of boss gameplay tends to find its way into less social games, like Titan Souls (solo) or Diablo (coop). (craig_amai)
That said, it certainly seems possible if a smart designer can come up with new, smooth ways for players to find each other. (craig_amai)

Heroes of the Storm - Leoric and Butcher
Today's PTR patch added Leoric and the Butcher to the game!

by Published on 2015-06-29 03:21 AM

Update (4:30 PM EDT): Vanion's interview: Once you have a legendary ring, Archimonde will drop Crystallized Fel, allowing you to upgrade your ring's stats and proc.

Diablo 3 Patch 2.3 PTR Datamined - Class changes, Set items, Kanai's Cube, and MUCH more

Tavern Brawl Ending Soon, Popular Decks of the Week, Card Design Competition #22

New XP Bonus Weekend, Brawl With the Blues Eternal Conflict

Patch 6.2 - Legendary Ring Upgrades
Vanion's interview confirmed that Archimonde will drop Crystallized Fel, allowing you to upgrade your ring's stats and proc to item level 795, gaining 3 item levels each time.

Level Type Name
795Finger Sanctus, Sigil of the Unbroken
795Finger Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor
795Finger Etheralus, the Eternal Reward
795Finger Maalus, the Blood Drinker
795Finger Nithramus, the All-Seer

Patch 6.2 - Legendary Ring Proc Visuals
The legendary version of the ring comes with some nice visuals. Keep in mind that no one has the ring yet, so this is a best guess preview and isn't guaranteed to be what actually appears!

Level Type Spec Name
735FingerAll Tanks Sanctus, Sigil of the Unbroken
735FingerAll Strength Thorasus, the Stone Heart of Draenor
735FingerHealer Etheralus, the Eternal Reward
735FingerAll Agility Maalus, the Blood Drinker
735FingerAll Intellect Nithramus, the All-Seer

Name Level Followers Cost Duration Follower XP Rewards
Stalking the Master

Capture Ironfist Harbor and interrogate prisoners as to the whereabouts of Gul'dan's flagship.

1002× 1252 days60005000 XP
Giving Chase

Captured prisoners indicated that Gul'dan's flagship was last seen in this area of dangerous shoals.

1002× 1252 days60005000 XP
In Hot Pursuit

You've located Gul'dan's flagship! Maneuver with the wind to take out her carrier escort...

1003× 1252 days60005000 XP
Ambush on the High Seas

Gul'dan has sent submarine hunter-killers to thwart your mission. Lure them into a trap!

1002× 1252 days60005000 XP
Boarding the Master's Call

You've run Gul'dan's flagship aground, but now all her guns are trained toward the sea. Prepare for the worst.

1003× 1252 days6000

Master Plan and Garrison Mission Manager Updated
Garrison Mission Manager and Master Plan have been updated to suggest the best set of ships for Naval Missions.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Character / Items
seeking clarification. Is Darkmoon pit fighter and STV arena master heirlooms off looting the chest once or turning in 12?
Turn in 12 -> get achievement -> loot chest again, defending your title. (WarcraftDevs)

Mythic dungeons; loot lockout or dungeon?
Loot lockout. You can go back to help your friends if you want to. (WarcraftDevs)

With Timewalking Dungeons, how will the gear drops behave? Scale up as a character levels if not max or be lvl100 afterward?
The item’s level is matched to your player level when it drops, and it does not update after that. (WarcraftDevs)

I don't know if you've ever done arenas but my guess would be that you haven't. You have to experience it to understand
Ashran is meant to be a very different experience than arenas. It is expected some will prefer one over the other. (holinka)

Once everyone has there conquest gear what will keep them in ashran? alts....?
This is a problem of any progression system, not Ashran specific. What will we do once we're done? (holinka)

Perhaps, but I think to the majority of the player base Ashran is not fun. Every top Reddit thread is negative
We've made some changes we hope will improve the experience in 6.2. (holinka)

If you have Nat Pagle does having bait or high fishing skill (900vs1100+) have any effect on chance to catch lunkers?
High fishing skill will increase your chance to catch lunkers; bait will not. (WarcraftDevs)

Computers - Setup of the Month
Each month or so we will post a couple of hardware setups for those of you who are thinking of upgrading their computer!

This month
The current SSD prices are fairly flat right now, with most SSDs under $0.50 per gigabyte when on sale.

New GPUs from AMD are here, but they aren't huge improvements over the previous generation.

Depending on how much you want to overclock, you may need to spend a bit more for a better CPU cooler like the NH-D14.

Unless you are doing a lot of video rendering or streaming, you do not need the 4790K and should spend that money elsewhere.

Make sure to keep your AMD and Nvidia drivers up to date.

Don't forget to visit the Computer Forum for any extra questions!

ComponentPuppy Dolphin
MonitorASUS VS228H-P 22-Inch Monitor - $117ASUS VS248H-P 24-Inch Monitor - $160
KeyboardKensington Pro Fit Media Keyboard - $23Cyborg V.5 - $45
MouseLogitech G402 - $33Razer DeathAdder - $47
SpeakersCreative A250 2.1 Speaker System - $35Logitech Z313 Speaker System - $50
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
MonitorDell P2414H Monitor - $220Dell U2412M - $270
KeyboardLogitech G510s - $75Corsair Vengeance K70 - $120
MouseLogitech G502 - $61Razer Naga 2014 - $62
SpeakersLogitech Z323 2.1 Speaker System - $44Logitech Speaker System Z523 - $80

Puppy and Dolphin
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Puppy and Dolphin.
ComponentPuppy Dolphin
CaseNZXT Source 210 - $57NZXT Source 210 - $57
Power SupplyEVGA 600B - $60EVGA 600B - $60
CPUAMD FX-6300 - $100AMD FX-8320 - $137
HeatsinkCooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $31Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - $31
MotherboardASUS M5A97 R2.0 - $80ASUS M5A99FX PRO - $105
MemoryKingston HyperX FURY 8GB 1866 - $508GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $65
Graphics CardMSI R7 260X - $120Gigabyte R9 270X / GTX 960 - $150 / $190
Hard DriveWestern Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $49Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - $70
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22
Total$569$697 - 737

Narwhal and Unicorn
All of these parts can be mixed and matched to create a build between Narwhal and Unicorn.
ComponentNarwhal Unicorn
CaseCooler Master HAF 912 - $66Corsair Air 540 - $130
Power SupplyXFX PRO 750W - $128XFX PRO 750W - $128
CPUIntel 4690K - $236Intel 4690K - $236
HeatsinkScythe Mugen 4 - $52Noctua 6 NH-D14 - $78
MotherboardASUS Z97-A - $149ASUS Z97-A - $149
Memory8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $6516GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 - $103
Graphics CardMSI R9 380 - $240MSI R9 390 OR ASUS GTX 970 - $330
Hard DriveWestern Digital 1TB Caviar Black - $70Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black - $125
SSDCrucial BX100 250GB (Review) - $90
SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB (Review) - $108
SanDisk Extreme PRO 240GB (Review) - $140
SAMSUNG 850 Pro 256GB (Review) - $143
DVDAsus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW - $22
Total$1118 - 1171$1391 - 1444

Dark Legacy Comics #495 - Bodyguard
DLC #495 has been released.

by Published on 2015-06-27 10:39 AM

Diablo 3 Patch 2.3 PTR Datamined - Class changes, Set items, Kanai's Cube, and MUCH more

Deck Spotlight: Mech-Malygos Control Shaman, Hearthstone History - Neutral Rares, Challengestone #2

New XP Bonus Weekend, Brawl With the Blues Eternal Conflict

Hellfire Citadel - Heroic Cleared
As expected, Archimonde is dead and Heroic Hellfire Citadel has been cleared.

Patch 6.2 Hotfixes - June 26
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
  • You can now cast Prowl while sitting.

Death Knight
  • Frost Strike now deals 16.67% less damage. This brings the ability's damage back to pre-Patch 6.2.0 levels.
  • Obliterate now deals 16.67% less damage. This brings the ability's damage back to pre-Patch 6.2.0 levels.
  • Howling Blast now deals 16.67% less damage. The ability still deals slightly more damage than before Patch 6.2.0.

  • Improved Focus Fire should now correctly increase attack power.

  • Lava Lash now deals 20% more damage.
  • Stormstrike now deals 20% more damage.
  • Windstrike now deals 20% more damage.

  • Pressing the Attack: Completing the one-time chapter versions of each bonus objective related to this quest should now be awarding quest credit.
  • Gara: Players can now use Trade Agreement: Arakkoa Outcasts, regardless of where they are in this quest chain.
  • Vignette: Murktide Alpha: This quest is no longer cleared from your character during a daily reset or after logging off.

Raids and Dungeons
Hellfire Citadel
Iron Reaver
  • After defeating Iron Reaver, you should no longer see toasts for every other player who looted the Internal Stabilizer Equipment Plan.
Kilrogg Deadeye
  • Fel Corruption gained from Hulking Terrors before Kilrogg should now fall off upon exiting combat
Fel Lord Zakuun
  • Noxious Cloud should no longer cause a big framerate drop.
  • Players’ corpses should no longer be teleported out of the nether during this encounter.
  • If you fall off the platform while in the Twisting Nether, your corpse will not be teleported back up to the platform.
  • Allure of Flames no longer targets dead melee players.
  • Archimonde should now prefer to cast Nether Banish on players who are in a tank spec.

  • In The Breach, Stormshield Footman and Warspear Grunt no longer drop any loot.
  • The Stand Fast aura should provide an increase of 5% to your damage. The tooltip for this aura will be updated at a later date.
  • The Tower Defense aura should provide an increase of 10% to your damage. The tooltip for this aura will be updated at a later date.
  • The Hold Your Ground aura should provide an increase of 15% to your damage. The tooltip for this aura will be updated at a later date.
  • Victory in Ashran events now grants 150 honor per win, down from 250.
  • Victory in Ashran Mines now requires 30 marks, down from 50.


Bug Fixes
  • Leorajh has regained the ability to open the command interface for you.
  • Fixed a bug causing quest progress to stop functioning after the completion of a dungeon.
  • Players no longer lose quest progress when splitting stacks of quest items and then recombining them.
  • Fixed a bug preventing some vendor items from being purchasable.
  • Supreme Lord Kazzak no longer drops felblight for characters below level 100.

Patch 6.2 - Savage Satchel of Cooperation
The satchel for in demand roles rewards Bind on Account Baleful gear in Patch 6.2. Each bag contains two items.

Itemization Quality/Chance Hotfixes Coming Soon
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
We’re preparing a hotfix to be deployed during next week’s downtime, which will make a few changes in time for the new raid week.

This hotfix will:
  • Triple the chance that a Mythic dungeon item can upgrade to Warforged. As a reminder, when a Mythic dungeon item is Warforged (which can drop from any Mythic dungeon boss), the item level is increased from 685 to 705.
  • Increase the number of set pieces that drop from set bosses in Normal and Heroic Hellfire Citadel. This will affect both personal loot and group loot.
  • Increase the chance of getting an item when using a Seal of Tempered Fate.

We’ll be pushing a separate hotfix live today that will double the chance that a Timewarped item drops as Warforged, which increases its ilvl at level 100 from 660 to 675.

Also Tempered fate not inevitable?
Correct. It's a catch up change.

The doubled chance for Warforged Timewarped items is now live.

Timewalker Dungeon Feedback
Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
-Fix Righteous Fury so it doesn't unapply by entering and exiting a dungeon.
Most buffs are cleared when entering Timewalking, similar to Arena. This is necessary to ensure that the down-scaling that occurs when you enter the dungeon is done cleanly.

-Fix the Dungeon Finder's "Find new players" option so people arent absolutely boned by leavers
This is a bug we're actively working to address. The Dungeon Finder should be trying to refill groups for you.

-Is there any way to make Barrage stupid proof? please? Like, replace it with how volley used to be cast instead of every damned thing in front of the hunter.
Ideally people understand how their AoEs work before using them freely. We're always keeping an eye on things though.

-Add a bag that you can get for completing your first random timewalker for the day that drops a 660 piece and a chance at some pets and maybe a mount. Give the players a 'choo-choo train" so its a little easier to digest this... thing.
We're at least doubling the chance that a Timewarped item will drop as Warforged. That should feel a little better?

The feedback is appreciated and we're always happy to clarify how things function, whether intended or not, whenever we can. It'd be cool, though, to sometimes not read that feedback with such incendiary statements as "the failure that it is" or "make it stupid proof."

From my perspective it just makes filtering through feedback more cumbersome. There's more stuff to sift through in general, and then I have to try and weight the hyperbole against the legitimacy of the feedback.

You're passionate about the game and you're coming here to let us know about some things that frustrated you with a new system. I get it. That's cool. I just wish it could stay as simple as that, with less emphasis on the dramatic.

In any event, the thread is about Timewalking, and there are some improvements and fixes in order. Hopefully they help.

Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
Character / Items
Do you still do toys? The Contender's Costumes can't be removed manually - you have to wait out the debuff time.
If you could remove it manually, as soon as you were losing, you'd right-click it off, unfair to the other players. (Muffinus)

Sha of Anger isn't the same as pre-fly pvp. People didn't fight in TM and SS because they'd get honor points or loot.
.Do you think TM vs. SS world pvp (pre-honor) can ever return to WoW? Why or why not? (Muffinus)

Overwatch - Zarya Gameplay
We got another look at Overwatch gameplay with the release of some Zarya footage.

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