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« on: August 18, 2007, 07:11:16 pm » |
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It seems that the haste effect has been changed on the current version of the PTR. (Keep in mind that it could be a test and it's not anywhere in the patch notes for the moment) Melee haste rating has been nerfed, and it now requires 15.76 points of haste to get 1% increased attack speed. (Instead of 10.51 on the live servers) Ranged haste rating calculation is the same as Melee. Spell haste rating has been upgraded, and it now requires 15.76 points of haste to get 1% increased cast speed. (Instead of 21 on the live servers) If you want to check your haste rating on both PTR and Live servers, you can use the two following commands : Melee haste rating/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetCombatRatingBonus(18)) Ranged haste rating/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetCombatRatingBonus(19)) Spell haste rating/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetCombatRatingBonus(20)) You should get a % value in your chatbox like in the following examples.
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PlayerThree
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 07:15:58 pm » |
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"Spell haste rating has been nerfed, and it now requires 15.76 points of haste to get 1% increased cast speed. (Instead of 21 on the live servers)"
If it is 21 for 1% on live, how is 15.76 a nerf?
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enno
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 07:18:34 pm » |
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More nerfes?! Oh come'on When is it enough  As if melee doesn't have enough problems. And yes as said above.. casters get a BUFF. Sjees.
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theiceman
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 07:33:19 pm » |
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Ranged haste rating hasnīt changed?
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Boubouille
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 07:50:44 pm » |
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"Spell haste rating has been nerfed, and it now requires 15.76 points of haste to get 1% increased cast speed. (Instead of 21 on the live servers)"
If it is 21 for 1% on live, how is 15.76 a nerf?
Easy, it's called a wild copy past of the previous line. ^^
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elixir
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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2007, 07:51:08 pm » |
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 DOnt nerf the already unbalanced hunter....arena wise anyways 
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Maas
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2007, 08:02:14 pm » |
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If this goes through on top of the windfury hotfix they should add a note saying to reroll wizard hat and robe. Melee have to be higher dps/utility to warrant their inclusion in a raid or group given how far more convenient ranged dps is in EVERY setting. Windfury was too good, and is still the best, but a horde of shit is not good enough. The 2.1 patch changed core mechanics like cleave and delivered changes to several encounters large and small specifically to make the expansion more melee friendly because the original design was melee suicide. Now the erosion of 2.1 begins with 2.2? I'm beginning to wonder if the developers actually play melee.
More of the same from Northrend? Mobs that instantly and without warning give the tank a 10k per second aura of death to rogues sounds like the perfect "challenge" to preclude taking any melee dps to said encounter. Sounds outlandish (haha funny), but thats a Northrend scaled version of what Omor in Heroic Ramparts did, and post-nerf still clings to pretty closely. How about mobs that have an auto attack for 5k with a whirlwind that goes off in 1 second (5k damage), snares, and fears? What if we followed him with an NPC that heals, cleanses, and lays down an 800 point consecrate under himself constantly? Thats Heroic Durnholde, probably the single least used heroic. And that is its current inception, not "pre-nerf".
There is no such thing as "ranged haste rating". Haste rating applies to all physical dps rounds. So hunters will be affected negatively.
I hope this doesn't go live, but regardless of this potential nerf several encounters are still mad queer for melee participants.
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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2007, 08:14:33 pm » |
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"Spell haste rating has been nerfed, and it now requires 15.76 points of haste to get 1% increased cast speed. (Instead of 21 on the live servers)"
If it is 21 for 1% on live, how is 15.76 a nerf?
That is a buff. It only requires 15.76 spell haste to = 1% haste. Before you needed 21... So if you a trinket that increases spell haste by 320 for 6 seconds. Before it was 15.23......% Now it is 20.30.... %
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2007, 08:28:00 pm » |
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"Spell haste rating has been nerfed, and it now requires 15.76 points of haste to get 1% increased cast speed. (Instead of 21 on the live servers)"
If it is 21 for 1% on live, how is 15.76 a nerf?
You might want to reread that, Spell haste has been upgraded not nerfed.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2007, 08:45:18 pm » |
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melee dps is over the top in bt!
thank god they're going to fix it
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2007, 10:26:49 pm » |
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melee dps is over the top in bt!
thank god they're going to fix it
People like you are really not bright. You know any nerf to any class will nerf your raid therefore will nerf you right?
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2007, 03:29:35 am » |
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melee dps is over the top in bt!
thank god they're going to fix it
People like you are really not bright. You know any nerf to any class will nerf your raid therefore will nerf you right? Anyone who speaks like that I doubt is in BT anyway.. Probably after extensive testing of haste gear and Tier 6 (there was a reason they gave us tier 6 premades kids) they decided how to correctly balance haste rating.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2007, 11:10:55 am » |
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Still doesn't make Quag's Eye very worthwhile IMO, heh.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2007, 02:48:37 pm » |
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melee dps is over the top in bt!
thank god they're going to fix it
So it was ok for melee DPS to suck ass when you first reach level 70 because melee classes are supposedly more gear dependant, but it is not ok if there is some turnaround and with the best gear going melee DPS is better than caster DPS. How exactly are melee DPS to compete if blizz keep rebalancing the game such that you are equal to caster DPS in the best items available but inferior in any combination of lesser gear. It should be either balanced at all times or imbalanced in favour of each side 50% of the time.
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enno
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2007, 08:10:09 pm » |
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melee dps is over the top in bt!
thank god they're going to fix it
People like you are really not bright. You know any nerf to any class will nerf your raid therefore will nerf you right? Anyone who speaks like that I doubt is in BT anyway.. Probably after extensive testing of haste gear and Tier 6 (there was a reason they gave us tier 6 premades kids) they decided how to correctly balance haste rating. Thats bullshit.. BT items giving to much haste? Nerf those items then. My DraginSpineTrophee is a much needed tool to stay near the top. Nerfing that hurts no matter how little a nerf it may be.
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