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    Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes, RAF Mount

    Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes
    Originally Posted by Bashiok (Blue Tracker)
    We're continuing to refine the badge/emblem and PvP point systems in Cataclysm and we'd like to share some of those changes with you today. Please enjoy!

    Our primary goal when approaching badges in Cataclysm is to address a lot of the confusion that comes with these currency systems. To that end we're changing badges to a more straightforward point system, similar to the ones we've used for a while for Arenas and Battlegrounds. There will be a total of four types of points you can earn in Cataclysm (two for PvE and two for PvP), and these will remain the same even as we introduce new content.

    Here's the breakdown:

    PvE
    • Hero Points -- Low-tier, easier-to-get PVE points. Maximum cap to how many you can own, but no cap to how quickly you can earn them. Earned from most dungeons. (most like the current Emblem of Triumph)
    • Valor Points -- High-tier, harder-to-get PvE points. Maximum cap to how many you can own, as well as a cap to how many you can earn per week. Earned from Dungeon Finder daily Heroic and from raids. (most like the current Emblem of Frost)

    PvP
    • Honor Points -- Low-tier, easier-to-get PVP points. There will be a maximum cap to how many you can own, but no cap to how quickly you can earn them. Earned from most PvP activities.
    • Conquest Points -- High-tier, harder-to-get PvP points. There will be a maximum cap to how many you can own, and a cap to how many you can earn per week. Earned from winning Rated Battlegrounds or Arenas. (currently called Arena Points)

    When a new tier of raiding gear is released or a new PvP season begins, your higher tier of points will be converted into the lower tier. For instance, if a new tier of raid gear is released, your Valor points will be converted to Hero points, and similarly if a new PvP season begins your Conquest points will be converted to Honor points. Of course that means with these new releases you'll always begin without any of the higher tier of points, and thus be unable to stockpile them.

    As noted for Conquest points, the Rated Battlegrounds and Arenas will be sharing this same point type. Because of that, it will in fact be possible to get the best PvP items without setting foot in Arena; however, more powerful armor and weapons will of course require more Conquest points, so players who win their matches more often will still gear up faster. We're removing personal rating requirements on almost all items; they're definitely removed for weapons. We might offer a few items to the absolute best players based on personal rating, largely as cosmetic or 'bragging rights' type items. And you'll have the option of purchasing the previous season’s gear with the more readily available Honor points.

    We do plan to have a way to convert Honor points (PvP) into Hero points (PvE), and vice versa, at a loss. The conversions will be possible, but it won't be a 1:1 rate, and you'll have fewer points after the conversion process. We won't allow the higher tiers to be exchanged for each other, however.

    To explain the reasoning for the weekly cap on points for the higher tiers, this is to provide flexibility in how players choose to earn the points without feeling like they have to do all of the content as often as it is available. If your Valor income from raiding is sufficient, you may not feel the need to run Dungeon Finder every night, or perhaps even at all. Likewise, a PvP player could choose to participate in a lot of Rated Battlegrounds but no Arenas, or focus on both, and still be able to earn the points they want.

    We realize that with any changes to progression pathways there are going to be questions. We're eagerly awaiting any that we may have left unanswered. To the comments!
    Refer-A-Friend Rocket Mount Update
    Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)
    Time is running out for those who wish to claim their Zhevra, as the launch of the X-53 Touring Rocket is now scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday, April 27! If you’ve fulfilled all of the Recruit-A-Friend requirements necessary to claim a mount now but choose not to claim the Zhevra, you will be able to claim the X-53 Touring Rocket instead once it launches. Sounds like they’re firing it up for a final test run now....

    You can find the original announcement here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/hr...38460723&sid=1


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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    I like it a lot! Especially with what they are saying about all gear losing rating requirement

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Sounds super sweet. Can't wait for the badge changes.

    Kind of liking the idea of 2 types of badges, less confusion.

    Can't say much about the pvp changes. Weapons without rating will probably result in massive QQ from the hardcore, even tho I would say that it's a much needed change. Nobody really wanted to be forced into PVE to PVP, which is how it is currently.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    interesting changes. i'm interested to see how exactly it all plays out.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    cataclysm is going to be awesome.
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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    the fact that it auto converts makes me like it. i'm tired of converting down to buy gems.
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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    A bit booring name on the PvE-points. But well, well.
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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Very interesting changes thus far. No more downgrading badges; that's always a hassle when in a rush.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Cool changes IMO; Yesterday's were just bad.

    Also: in before PVP whine.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Sounds good no more 10 different badge types hanging around

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Pretty cool I guess..

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Hopefully the cap is reasonable, i like to build up emblems and honor and then burn some of them when i get close to cap, generally i like having the buffer for when i need gems for gear, or am in a pinch for gold.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Interesting ;x

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoll
    the fact that it auto converts makes me like it. i'm tired of converting down to buy gems.
    Think that's the whole idea behind it. Apart from that I think it's going to be pretty similar to what we have at the moment.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Seriousdoom
    cataclysm is going to be awesome.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes, RAF Mount

    Sounds cool.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Wow nice change,specialy the part where it says ''Because of that, it will in fact be possible to get the best PvP items without setting foot in Arena;''
    bring on rated bg's

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    A good change. I guess the item costs from the First Raid Tier in Cata will be converted from Valor Points to Hero Points, once the second tier hits the servers.
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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes

    Quote Originally Posted by Drauer
    Also: in before PVP whine.
    There's probably going to be a LOT of whine, but honestly this is a good change. If I had it my way, all the gear in the game would be free to all, so that gameplay could be built around skill vs. skill...not gear vs. gear.

    A 2900 rated player is still going to roll over an 1800 player, even if they have the same gear.

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    Re: Cataclysm Badge and PvP Point Changes, RAF Mount

    No rating req? So it's basically a grind ANYONE can do. No matter how bad they are.

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