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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2008, 05:31:43 pm » |
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Hmm ... Oops ? ^^
This could explain why I sorted it under caster items, will try to fix this without wasting the rest of the screenshot.
Edit : Done.
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devilwarrior
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2008, 05:45:03 pm » |
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Seeing a MH Sword that is actually an upgrade from Talon of Aszhara is kind of nice, even if the offhand sword is some weird DPS/Tanking hybrid sword, and still worse than Blade of Savagery... and tons of Sta on both items, typical non-optimized melee DPS weapons, so I'll believe they're real.
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Archdale
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2008, 05:47:14 pm » |
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The original screenshot has many of the same grammatical errors. Blizzard almost never puts an item in-game with an error in it's text, much less multiple ones at the same time. The original also has the backgrounds, however they are not from any new area so that doesn't add any credibility.
Along the same lines as what Boubouille said with AQ stuff getting leaked, I remember a ring from AQ ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21836#comments), with a spelling error. Also, this is internal testing, things get changed. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out though. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2008, 05:52:24 pm » |
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One important thing I think we're all missing is the icons. I've never seen them before. Correct me if I'm wrong but they're all new icons in the original picture. Here look: (I had to zoom in Microsoft Picture Manager to see them all well. Save them so you can too.) The one on the left looks like a dagger, the othere two look like staffs.  Bottom left looks like a sunwell type sheild, middle right a dagger, top right a sword.  Top icon looks like a staff, second from bottom (orange and dark brown) looks too dark to tell, but seems new.  Purple crystal and grey sheild.  However, the shoulders look like T3 shaman on a human recolored. Blizzard said they would reuse T3...but only in Naxx. So I have my doubts there.  And here, original:  |
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 06:05:17 pm » |
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Good point on the icons, thanks for the zoomed screens. Although, I wuoldn't say the shoulders are recolored shaman t3 - the 'ball' is different and it seems that those shoulders only seem to have three spikes whereas the shaman t3 ones had 6 (and those were slightly different, I think?). Check this screen for a close up look at the shaman t3. |
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Caeruleas
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2008, 06:37:55 pm » |
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Why the huge disparity between the caster mace and dagger?
I don't think I've ever seen such a huge gap in damage in caster weapons from the same instance. The +spell dam and +spell crit would put the dagger at least 30 ilvls above the mace, and that's about as big a difference between the Staff of Infinite Mysteries (Kara, Curator drop) and the Nexus Key (Kael'Thas loot).
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2008, 06:49:04 pm » |
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Why the huge disparity between the caster mace and dagger?
I don't think I've ever seen such a huge gap in damage in caster weapons from the same instance. The +spell dam and +spell crit would put the dagger at least 30 ilvls above the mace, and that's about as big a difference between the Staff of Infinite Mysteries (Kara, Curator drop) and the Nexus Key (Kael'Thas loot).
Maybe some are purple from sunwell 5 man heroic?  |
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Caeruleas
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2008, 06:52:35 pm » |
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Maybe some are purple from sunwell 5 man heroic? That kinda makes sense... but didn't Blizz say that the welfare epics from Magister's Terrace will only be Upper Kara quality? That mace is ridiculously amazing if it drops from there. edit: Podcast transcription, 16m26s -- http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=3449.msg31851Final Heroic loot is only on par with Prince, and the Mindblade only has 203 spell dam. |
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2008, 06:53:36 pm » |
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Obviously, fake or real (I am tempted to believe they were real) sunwell is still a long way off and things like tweaking to both the stats and the text of the items is still in progress.
Some testing will always go over any item, and nothing it perfect at first creation.
Even if they were real, the chance is pretty big that Blizz will throw some stats around and change the names, just because it was out already.
We will see.
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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2008, 06:57:09 pm » |
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as i understood it s4 was going to be t3 sets, so perhaps seeing some if not all t3 items recolored would not be unreasonable. i remember a big buzz on warrior forums above finally being able to pvp/dps in dreadnaught set, since it always looked too good to be tanking gear. and if this is internal testing, its not unlikely to see shaman t3 on a human. only sad thing is that blizz said they would recolor t3, meaning we will probably be in brown/blue and not that awesome black.
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Caeruleas
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2008, 07:03:48 pm » |
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as i understood it s4 was going to be t3 sets, so perhaps seeing some if not all t3 items recolored would not be unreasonable. i remember a big buzz on warrior forums above finally being able to pvp/dps in dreadnaught set, since it always looked too good to be tanking gear. and if this is internal testing, its not unlikely to see shaman t3 on a human. only sad thing is that blizz said they would recolor t3, meaning we will probably be in brown/blue and not that awesome black. I'm pretty sure Blizz has said that they'll rehash T3 for WotLK's Naxx, so it'd be kinda weird for them to use those models now. They're gonna make a different set of models for Sunwell, so they'll probably use those for S4. Tier 3 Models in Naxxramas: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=3122.0 |
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2008, 07:16:43 pm » |
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Actually i don't know whre you get the information that these items are ilvl 154/164 (which the real ones probably will be).
You just have to compare some of them with the existing ones (or just calculate the ilvl but the first approach is more "visible").
Take the Healer staff (Golden Staff of the Sin'dorei) and compare it to Apostle of Argus (ilvl 151, max at this time). The new Healer staff should get a maximum increase of 13 ilvl (if Blizz stays with the system, new "normal" bosses 3 lvls above last tiers "end"boss. New endboss 10 lvls higher). What it actualy gets is:
- 2 sta
- 5 int
~- 1 spi (23 mp5 is about 58 Spi in itempoints)
+ 64 heal (biggest increase up to date on a healer weapon from one tier to another, should get less actually for higher tiers as stacking one stat on a item increases the actual itempoints the stat contributes (because of ((itemstat1*itempoints1)^1.5 +(itemstat2*itempoints2)^1.5 +(itemstat2*itempoints2)^1.5 +.. )^2/3
+ 32 haste
+ 3 sockets (!)
so with just blue socketing you can for example get a 118 plus on heal from only this item (along with increased haste rating)
The calculated itemlvl is nowhere near 154 or even 164. It's about 20 points higher in the 180 region.
Only seen from the increase in the stats (which is as said overall higher than between lower tiers, whereas it should be lower due to the calculation of the ilvl) you see, that some of these items are way too good. The ilvl increase on this weapon (from Archi to sunwell normal boss or endboss) ranges as high as the increase from normal kara boss item to Kael/Vashj loot.....
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« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2008, 07:27:59 pm » |
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Gotta be fake cos there's no ranged weapons for my Hunter |
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Maifax
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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2008, 08:10:07 pm » |
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@ Boubouille; can you confirm if whats changed your mind is just the general ilvl of things (aka things you bullet pointed) or something you 'dont want to say'?
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