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« on: November 15, 2008, 06:58:30 pm »
Kel'thuzad, Sartharion, and Malygos world first kill by TwentyFifthNovember
You might remember this news from a few days ago, most of the members from the top PvE guilds Nihilum and SK-Gaming merged in a single guild temporarily called TwentyFifthNovember.

The question is, how much time will it take to see them getting world first kills on raid bosses ? Easy, about 65 Hours and 30 minutes. Wrath of the Lich King was activated on european servers at 22:00 CEST and TwentyFifthNovember killed Kel'thuzad today at 15:30 CEST, and they also killed Sartharion the Onyx Guardian before that. Only Malygos was left and he just died at 18:45 CEST.

Yes we're talking about 25 man raid instances, it took them less than 3 days (68 Hours and 30 minutes) to get enough people to build a decent raid and down these bosses, it looks like the competition won't be easy in the future. It also means that they already cleared all the PvE content in Wrath of the Lich King and will have to wait for the next content patch 3.1 to have a chance to explore the Ulduar Raid instance.

Below is a small statement from their site.

We are proud to declare that all WOTLK PVE raid content has now been cleared. This is both a moment of triumph and a cause for concern. The question in all our minds right now is if we could do this, how soon until the rest of the top guilds in the world clear all the raid content that WOTLK has to offer? Did Blizzard miscalculated in the tuning of these encounters? Or is this Blizzard folding under the weight of a large casual player base that demands to be on equal footing with end-game raiders?

Malygos down…



You can find their loot on http://www.twentyfifthnovember.com/ but it doesn't look like there is anything new since the beta loot table.

The full beta loot tables for each instance (10/25 Players) can be found in the instance summaries:

Congratulations again to them for going through the first part of the expansion in less than 3 days!
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 07:01:02 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 07:04:50 pm »
Grats Wink
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 07:05:08 pm »
"Games hard."
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 07:05:44 pm »
Yeah, grats on beating the current WotLK so far and now please QQ that you have no challenge (content) left. /sarcasm
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 07:06:38 pm »
Good for them?
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 07:11:19 pm »
Quote from: lota7 on November 15, 2008, 07:07:18 pm
kinda what happens when you let em experience everything on beta.

While I congratulate you guys for clearing it all so fast in your quest greens/blues...I just have to /facepalm @ blizzard

They still appear to be in t6/sunwell gear.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 07:12:12 pm »
Sad tbh,i see no point at all in experiencing content like this, but whatever.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 07:13:56 pm »
well.. that kinda worries me... i mean, were is the challenge on the instances if 25 guys undergeared (for a 80 level standard) can clear it in one day?
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2008, 07:16:22 pm »
Quote from: Itzamna on November 15, 2008, 07:13:56 pm
well.. that kinda worries me... i mean, were is the challenge on the instances if 25 guys undergeared (for a 80 level standard) can clear it in one day?

you call the best loot available in tbc, undergeared?

besides...

teamwork -> gear
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 07:17:34 pm »
The blue gear is better at 80; these guys were in a hurry and didnt have time for professions and all the stuff entailed in regearing.  They killed Illidan in Kara gear,  just a factor of how big a rush they were in.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 07:18:09 pm »
Quote from: lota7 on November 15, 2008, 07:12:53 pm
hrm, so you're correct.
t6/sunwell is still better than quest blues at 80...the hell?

Remember, the itemization change from BC -> LK is much smaller than from Vanilla -> BC (Or so I've heard)

Also, Xendrie has a great point.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2008, 07:18:34 pm »
People will argue that "Oooh they're the best guild in the world no one else is good leik dat" and that it will take other guilds longer...but there are many guilds on par, or close to with nihilum/sk, and I'm guessing we're going to see them downing all this contents soon aswell.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2008, 07:18:41 pm »
So is this suggesting that blizzards idea for naxxramas was to make it, more accessible or stupidly easy.

There's way too much public testing which goes on these days, the only thing preventing people from clearing instances is the leveling, they know the tactics, and this instance must be so much easier than original karazhan.

They need to buff the instance imo, the casuals should get the 10 man and the hardcores should get a real challenge in the form of 25man.
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FFS if you are not a hardcore raider yourself, stop acting like one. Hardcore raiders really do not need you to fight their battles for them. How many times do I have to see a random player suggesting the only reason they dont like a patch is because some hardcore raiders they follow, wont be facing a challenge.

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2008, 07:19:15 pm »
Quote from: Xendrie on November 15, 2008, 07:16:22 pm
you call the best loot available in tbc, undergeared?

besides...

teamwork -> gear

at 80 it is... crit rate is way different.. hit rating too... etc...
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