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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2009, 11:29:50 am »



I have a route that takes me about 6 minutes to cover every node in WG. 


As most likely we all arent playing on the same server could you share with us that magnificent route? I m not saying i dont believe you from the start, but let s say im the kind of person that doesnt take things for granted...
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2009, 11:43:55 am »

Sell it on AH imo.  On my server it's not even worth prospecting / making jewelry -> DE anymore.  The amount of time that takes could have been better spent (in your case farming).  It's like people who buy cloth off the AH to turn into bandages to vendor.  Sure it makes a profit, but you could make 5-10x faster doing something else.
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2009, 04:49:10 pm »

As most likely we all arent playing on the same server could you share with us that magnificent route? I m not saying i dont believe you from the start, but let s say im the kind of person that doesnt take things for granted...

Here is the best I can do with my awesome paint skills.  The red route is my normal route.  The blue is a side path I take every few rounds to check on the 7-8 nodes over there.  There are only about 4-5 random nodes throughout the map that are not covered with this route.


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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2009, 04:50:04 pm »

Cool paint skills bro!
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2009, 05:05:10 pm »

I've found the market for blue gems to be BETTER on my server since epic gems have been released.  Average prices may have gone down, but there is significantly less competition as the majority of jc's are now focusing their attention on epic gems/cuts.

Scarlet rubies: I cut 2:1 into runed and split the rest up into bold, fractured, delicate, or precise depending on whats selling the best.  I cut more runed's simply because they sell faster and regardless of price its important to have fast turn around.
Autumn Glows: Mystics (after new content is farmable) Rigid, and Smoothe tend to consistently sell for 30-35g durring progression phases.
Twilight Opals: Soverign, Glowing, and Pussiant all tend to sell fairly well as well often fetching 30-35g
Monarch Topaz: Sometimes these sell incredibly well sometimes they dont.  I havnt really been able to figure out the pattern as I cannot seem to get any of single cut to sell consistently.  Some freinds of mine have experienced the same issue and reccomend selling the uncut gems but I prefer to cut a very small ammount at the time and post only 2-3 of what are selling well and undercut the competition more than normal to get them sto sell.  Again turn around time is key and if they drop lower than 20g and your on your 3rd listing your just wasting money and time, at which point ill just vendor them.
Forest Emeralds: I can never get any cuts to sell consistently and I have an Cut->Auto-Vendor policy on them.   If im feeling charitable i'll often give them away.
Sky Sapphires: Always cut solids' and provided you under cut they have always sold incredibly well for me.  Im willing to take a super small profit margin as Ive never had one returned and I can always make a reasonable profit off them.

IF youre a miner turn youre green quality blue, yellow, red, and orange gems into low level jc's and vendor them for ~3g a pop.  If you're not a miner just cut and vendor them.  You can also look into chanter sharks who are willin to buy any ammount of stock of those for 1g per.

Using these methods ive always had no problem turning a great profit on the ah even buying ore, when its all your ore its great money.   Its not as fast as simply selling it in bulk to a jc but it will yield far more profit.   Spending a few hours working ~2k gold worth of ore will yield more than 6k if processed properly @ 16g per stack.

Hope this has been some help.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2009, 07:57:07 pm »

A lot of this discussion is contingent on your server's economy. My server happens to have very high enchanting mats prices (90g-110g/stack for infinite dust), but low prices for gems (scarlet rubies are 42g, everything else is between 6-29g). Saronite stacks sell for about 14g. So I usually smelt saronite bars, send them to my shaman (who is a BS) and make eternal belt buckles, and sell those for about 65g each. The eternal waters I buy very cheaply (7g per) from a "business partner" who farms them up. Total profit per buckle: 65-7=58g*20 buckles=1160g. Keep in mind you can't do this all the time, or you'll flood the market and lower the profits (which makes everyone /hate you). On a good week, I can sell about 50 buckles, so the rest of the saronite that I don't use I prospect and use for JC crafts and icy prisms. Those don't yield as much gold, but its still profitable.

Strangely, on my server Titanium Bars are actually going for upwards of 55g (62g yesterday), whereas Titanium ore is only 310g/stack. So I'll smelt the half-stack of ore I got farming into bars, and sell those.


I can attest that WG farming is absolutely incredible for titanium farming. I'm usually flying around there on my DK for the hour before raids start (while everyone else is getting pots/flasks/repairs/reagents and trolling forums) and I can get about 15-18 eternals (not an engi) and 10-15 stacks of saronite along with 1.5 stacks of titanium (on average).

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2009, 08:22:39 pm »

Now if I could just track this guy down to take care of the gophers who are stealing all my nodes from underground everything would be right with the world.  I lost 4 Titanium nodes and countless saronite ones last night to the node ninjas.  Now every node I land on I start off with an instant howl of terror to get rid of any horde hackers, that saved me 3 nodes.

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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2009, 08:23:12 am »

- Prospect and make the green enchanting necklace/rings and disenchant them to get dust/essence and sell that
I don't think this will work any more.  According to my JC trainer, all the level 70+ ring and neck recepies now make Blue quality gear, instead of Green, meaning that most of them are going to DE into Small Shards instead of dust or essence now, making them practically worthless.
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2009, 03:29:21 pm »

You are looking at the wrong rings/necks.

Blood Sun Necklace
Jade Dagger Pendant

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Sun Rock Ring
Crystal Citrine Necklace
Crystal Chalcedony Amulet
Bloodstone Band


I disenchanted each type of the green rings/necks this weekend and received the same mats that I have been receiving for a while now. They are not worthless yet.

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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2009, 04:17:46 pm »

normally, i buy (!) around 600G worth of saronite ore (about 40 stacks or 160 prospects), then i prospect them all via a macro.

according to wowhead, these should be my prospects (numbers can vary):

30 of each usable gem (HC/chalcedony/BS/SC) for 120 in total.
30 of DJ and shadow crystal (unusable almost)
6-7 of each blue gem.

remember, you need to save about 5 of each gem used in the JC daily, so i have about 100 usable.

after that, i count how many of the usable-in-craft gems i have (X) and i buy X/5 eternal earth (in this case, 20. this costs me 200G). i split the earth into crystalized, and then i spend about X*5 seconds to craft the rings/necklaces (in this case, 500, or a bit under 8 and a half minutes). i then look for a friendly enchanter. each of these rings give me about 1-2 infinite dust (worth 4-5G atm) or 1-2 lesser cosmic essences (sellable for 6-7G as lesser, or for about 16G as greater, but greater sells better), in a 75-22-3 (for small dream shard) ratio. 100 rings gives 75-80 infinite dust (goes for 300-400G), 20-25 lesser cosmic essence (120-175G, or around 120G if i deside to join them) and 22G for the small dream shards (if combined into one dream shard).

the blue gems (around 36-42 in total) give me on average 45G each. that is 1620-1890G. if i cut them, you can add a lot.

or you can look for a transmutation master, and turn these into epic gems, but then you also need to spend more money on the eternals and higher fees.

300+120+22+1620= 2,062G
400+175+22+1890= 2,487G.

so between 2K and 2.5K for an investment of 800G, or a 250-300% RoI (return on investment, used to compare gold making techniques using the AH). some entrepreneurs would give their left arm for such a profit. and because these items are nearly always in demand (gems and enchanting mats are always good sellers), you can be almost sure to make a profit.
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