30 pages of PvP fucktards wanting their way. Arena was a BAD idea. Resilience was a BAD idea. These might have worked in other games that didn't start as PvE focussed, but they really screwed the pooch in a game that started balanced around 40 man raids.

The bubble is fundamentally part of what a paladin is in WoW from the very beginning. It shouldn't be taken away because of some mythical concept of PvP balance. PvPers please go and play FPS because you really misunderstand MMORPGs.

That's a stupid reply.

1. Like someone already said, I need a shield for Shield Wall, so it already reduces my DMG output, and shield wall doesnt get you immune to all dmg.

2. The shield isnt all around me, its only on one side, so I can still attack with 1 hand.. Please explain me how you get your 2hand weapon out of your bubble, without blowing it.

3. Shield is 60% dmg reduction, not a f.ing 100% reduction bubble. AND CAN ONLY BE USED IN DEF STANCE, which ALSO reduces ALL DMG by 10%...

Please.......... Dont throw stupid arguments over and over, comparing 2 different class skills....

Want to start stupid arguing? I could also compare your Divine Shield with Ice Block.........

Don't you ready you stupid post, so you go into def stance, so that is even more damage your absorbing and it last longer than DS, that is even more time to dps while protected. you are not immune from all but you take a shit load less, not to mention the number of stuns available to you at that time and you can snare as well.

If sheid wall is not good as DS(and it should not be), its a very close contender.

The shield isnt all around me, its only on one side, so I can still attack with 1 hand.. Please explain me how you get your 2hand weapon out of your bubble, without blowing it.- you are sooooo stupid, so which side is the wall on your left, right, back or front? If it in front of you, how do you hit throught the wall? if its at the side, why do you still absorb damage still.

You are sooo stupid and lack reasoning.

There are 3 classes that get 100% damage immunity:

1. Paladin. Holy has no HoTs, little instants or proc based instants, no AOE heals, and otherwise very interruptable healing. Holy has more mana than it needs, but due to mobility is usually dead before mp is drained. Ret has ultra limited range, limited mobility, long cooldowns, and low mana. Prot is still not ready for arenas.

2. Mage. Iceblock makes mage completely immobile, yet allows for incoming heals and CDs to refresh. Frost gets a 2nd IB. Mages can 2 shot you from range, they can go invisible(virtual immunity), and have a plethora of stuns, silences, snares, and other outs mixed with great mobility. Mages have almost limitless mana.

3. Priest. As Holy(or split Disc) you get Spirit of Redemption. Priest must be dead and is immobile. Heals cost no mana. To get a good priest dead is a feat in itself. They have preemptive shields, HoTs, instants, AOE heals and dmg, DoTs, Fear, Fear-ward, Dispels(offensive AND defensive), also proc based shields and heals. Priests have large mana pools and great longevity. They have limited run speed, but are excellent on the move.

I'll assume the OP was indeed being constructive when he started this thread(rather than QQing).

From the 3 classes with immunity, the one that strikes me as a necessity is the Paladin, obviously.

Paladin does NOT have a counter to being hit from range. To a Paladin, being 30+ yrds from a caster allows that caster 100% immunity from the Paladin. Paladins CAN and WILL be hit by other players, there is no way to avoid it. Paladins can't run away(save bubble-hearth), can't avoid being targetted, can't send pets while immobilized, can't knockback, can't mana drain, can't enrage, can't snare beyond run speed, can't silence, can't heal-on-the-move...the list goes on.

The Paladin is granted 12 sec of immunity. If used offensively, approx 4 sec of that is used on closing the range gap...allowing only 1 dmg rotation of attack. If the other player dies within 1 dmg rotation, said player fails...not the spell design.

So yes, 100% immunity for 12 sec with a 5 min CD is acceptable when all other factors are considered.

The problem with Divine Shield is how Rets are using it... nothing else.

I hope the 50% damage reduction while bubble is active makes a difference cause honestly it's getting kinda tiresome to PvP against ret pallies (lets face it, ret isnt hard to play...And yes, I DO have a paladin and I can faceroll my way to victory in PvP while being ret...which I avoid since I find ret incredibly boring).

Not to mention that rets have a surprising amount of stuns.  In a fight against a ret pally he managed to HoJ me twice and use Repentance while he readied his heroic HoL axe.  But I'll save this for some other discussion.

I agree with what theyve said about Divine Shield.  Make it non dispellable but don't let the paladin attack while it is active.  Make it more of a "I'm low, time to heal myself to full" kind of ability, not an "OH LOOK FREE HONOR!" ability.

PALADINS RULE DEAL WITH IT!

I know you read the post, but do you READ the post?

My Arc mage will wipe his debuffs clean, and 2 shot you after popping out of Ice Block early while you still have Slow on you.

If I were to spec my Disc priest for SoR(being nerfed btw), I sure in hell won't be by myself...EVER!

Why are you letting a bubbled pally hit you? Aside from just plain running around a pillar for 12 secs, I can give a whole slew of options you can use to avoid bubble rape. List the class and I'll give you 3 outs.