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    Funky spec, AMZ really isn't good for PvE (although it's incredible for PvP) all you need in Magic Suppression is one point, in order to make AMS refund RP - I'd also take one point from Desecration, and take these 4 points and put two in Improved Blood Tap and two in Runic Power Mastery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxiye View Post
    Funky spec, AMZ really isn't good for PvE (although it's incredible for PvP) all you need in Magic Suppression is one point, in order to make AMS refund RP - I'd also take one point from Desecration, and take these 4 points and put two in Improved Blood Tap and two in Runic Power Mastery.
    Every little bit of dmg reduction helps when progressing through 10man Heroic content, originally specced AMZ for Nefarian lightning machine, but have found it very useful in hc modes for damage reduction

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    @Noxiye Enchant weapon with stoneskin instead of FC (possibly swordshatter) and try to replace throngus' finger with the crab from TotT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karjis View Post
    Every little bit of dmg reduction helps when progressing through 10man Heroic content, originally specced AMZ for Nefarian lightning machine, but have found it very useful in hc modes for damage reduction
    Speccing AMZ for a specific fight is fair game, and I agree it may be situationally useful. But for fights other than those it's a DPS "loss" partly because of the Unholy Rune cost, and also because of the loss of useful DPS talents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilith View Post
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    @Noxiye Enchant weapon with stoneskin instead of FC (possibly swordshatter) and try to replace throngus' finger with the crab from TotT.
    Working on the trinket, and the runeforge is only temporary because of trying to solo old content.
    As for your armory - good spec, good gear, nice balance in rating, good overall.

    EDIT: Sorry for posting again, rate this armory instead: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lent/secondary
    Last edited by mmoc522dc42c8a; 2011-02-02 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxiye View Post
    Speccing AMZ for a specific fight is fair game, and I agree it may be situationally useful. But for fights other than those it's a DPS "loss" partly because of the Unholy Rune cost, and also because of the loss of useful DPS talents.
    I know it's a dps loss, but as we all know dead dps is = 0 dps I would love to spec IBT but i rather help a little bit in healing since we are doing some heroic modes where it really really helps(Chimaeron, Maloriak, Omnotron for example.) Still speccing for IBT for some fights where AMZ is not necessary

    http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/play..._Death_Knight/
    as u see my dps is kinda fine :P

    @ Noxiye get 3 Jewelcrafter's gem and i would suggest reforging and gemming for mastery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karjis View Post
    I know it's a dps loss, but as we all know dead dps is = 0 dps I would love to spec IBT but i rather help a little bit in healing since we are doing some heroic modes where it really really helps(Chimaeron, Maloriak, Omnotron for example.) Still speccing for IBT for some fights where AMZ is not necessary

    http://worldoflogs.com/rankings/play..._Death_Knight/
    as u see my dps is kinda fine :P

    @ Noxiye get 3 Jewelcrafter's gem and i would suggest reforging and gemming for mastery.
    I'm too lazy to level my JC, and I'm already reforging all non-avoidance stats to Mastery. I should probably reforge Dodge and Parry as well. Hm.

    To keep the thread alive: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ickened/simple - dig in.
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    Looks good, couple things that stood out for me -

    Do you have a different tanking weapon? Seems like you still have your pvp weapon equipped. If you're tanking with that weapon stick a tanking rune on it.

    If you JUST bought that relic - I would recommend selling it back to the vendor for your VP back! The relic slot is the lowest stats of any slot, so using VP on IMO is silly. Though thats just my personal preference.

    Only other stuff I can see is to level up that engineering and jewelcrafting and you'll be one badass tank.

    also, i can't post a link, but look at me on the armory, Xehn of Drak'Tharon (US Server)
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    Quote Originally Posted by xehn View Post
    Looks good, couple things that stood out for me -

    Do you have a different tanking weapon? Seems like you still have your pvp weapon equipped. If you're tanking with that weapon stick a tanking rune on it.

    If you JUST bought that relic - I would recommend selling it back to the vendor for your VP back! The relic slot is the lowest stats of any slot, so using VP on IMO is silly. Though thats just my personal preference.

    Only other stuff I can see is to level up that engineering and jewelcrafting and you'll be one badass tank.

    also, i can't post a link, but look at me on the armory, Xehn of Drak'Tharon (US Server)
    I bought the sigil because I was stuck with an ilvl 318 after having EVERY other slot 346 and some 359. I did a ton of Stonecore for the sigil, but it never dropped (it did, on the next run, of course - but that was a lot later).

    As for your armory - you need to reforge a lot of the Parry rating into Dodge rating, because of DR. It should be as close as possible (remember to account for Horn of Winter as it gives Parry rating but not Dodge rating).
    Also, Endless Winter isn't a good choice unless you're hit capped (and you're far from hit capped even with Virulence in a raid setting), at least not for raids, as it gets very unreliable.

    I'd move those two points into Abomination's Might, partly because of the 10% AP buff which is very useful unless provided elsewhere, but also because the 2% personal strength gives both avoidance and threat.

    I'd also move the two points in Virulence to Epidemic.

    I keep posting in here, I'll find a random DK for you guys to rate in order for the thread to move on. I chose a friend of mine, he doesn't mind: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...axuzluk/simple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxiye View Post
    As for your armory - you need to reforge a lot of the Parry rating into Dodge rating, because of DR. It should be as close as possible (remember to account for Horn of Winter as it gives Parry rating but not Dodge rating).
    Also, Endless Winter isn't a good choice unless you're hit capped, at least not for raids, as it gets very unreliable.
    4% of that parry rating is from my weapon's rune, which is provided without diminishing returns. Without the weapon you're looking at 11% and 13%, which is still not ideal but yeah - kinda stuck at that point due to gear comp.

    Endless winter - will always roll with this. Depending on the amount of melee in 5 and 10 mans, I end up interrupting a lot. though it will be a LOT nicer once the spell hit talent is no longer neccesary, as I have to reforge a ton of things to hit when relied on for interrupts in a raid environment (halfus)

    No need for abom's might with our raid comp, and the 2% strength is unneccesary due to my threat being through the roof.

    But yeah, understood on being stuck with a 318 sigil - that always sucks. For me it was trinkets, took FOREVER to get them and I run stonecore after doing my daily whenever I can but still no Leaden Despair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xehn View Post
    4% of that parry rating is from my weapon's rune, which is provided without diminishing returns. Without the weapon you're looking at 11% and 13%, which is still not ideal but yeah - kinda stuck at that point due to gear comp.

    Endless winter - will always roll with this. Depending on the amount of melee in 5 and 10 mans, I end up interrupting a lot. though it will be a LOT nicer once the spell hit talent is no longer neccesary, as I have to reforge a ton of things to hit when relied on for interrupts in a raid environment (halfus)

    No need for abom's might with our raid comp, and the 2% strength is unneccesary due to my threat being through the roof.

    But yeah, understood on being stuck with a 318 sigil - that always sucks. For me it was trinkets, took FOREVER to get them and I run stonecore after doing my daily whenever I can but still no Leaden Despair.
    I got Leaden Despair on my first Stonecore run, which was my first heroic.
    2% strength from Abomination's Might gives Parry through strength, and you should be reforging some Parry rating to Dodge, I know you've got Swordshattering, but your Parry rating is still higher, and you'll still get a higher result from reforging into Dodge.

    Also, I can see you've reforged into Parry, just reforge that into Dodge and you'll get a better result.
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    Stinkhorn - Ghostlands US

    I don't have the expensive enchants because i'm poor
    specced into chillblains because hunter provides increased physical damage debuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reigninblood View Post
    ^ didn't link one!

    Can't post links yet
    Stinkhorn - Ghostlands US

    I don't have the expensive enchants because i'm poor
    specced into chillblains because hunter provides increased physical damage debuff
    I linked one earlier, after that it was just us discussing! http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...axuzluk/simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxiye View Post
    Also, I can see you've reforged into Parry, just reforge that into Dodge and you'll get a better result.
    Yeah, looking at it there are a couple pieces I could do that with. My Shoulders should be into dodge (quickly reforged them last night mid raid - should have done them to dodge) and bracers for example. I'll have to take care of that tonight when I log in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xehn View Post
    Looks good, couple things that stood out for me -

    Do you have a different tanking weapon? Seems like you still have your pvp weapon equipped. If you're tanking with that weapon stick a tanking rune on it.

    If you JUST bought that relic - I would recommend selling it back to the vendor for your VP back! The relic slot is the lowest stats of any slot, so using VP on IMO is silly. Though thats just my personal preference.

    Only other stuff I can see is to level up that engineering and jewelcrafting and you'll be one badass tank.

    also, i can't post a link, but look at me on the armory, Xehn of Drak'Tharon (US Server)
    1. (Rune enchant) RoFC is a valid tanking runeforge > Heal + Parry on Str proc.

    2. (Sigil) That sigil is BiS and it's recommended for everyone to buy it, if not you already got a heroic one and get a major upgrade by buying something else.

    3. (Enigneering??) Engineering pretty much suck for tanks. Sure, a epic helm wich you will replace after some weeks of raiding and a belt enchant who can backfire and wipe your raid (If backfired on X time (MT;ing Cho'gall etc)).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khossan View Post
    3. (Enigneering??) Engineering pretty much suck for tanks. Sure, a epic helm wich you will replace after some weeks of raiding and a belt enchant who can backfire and wipe your raid (If backfired on X time (MT;ing Cho'gall etc)).
    Cardboard Assassin would like a word with you. Its pretty OP if used correctly.

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    Rate me please! Could use som advices
    Your gear seems to be pretty much perfect at the moment, you'll upgrade your gear in time (Talking about the blues). But as I'm a dedicated tank I do not got any advices for you

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...okila/advanced
    I got the Earthquake Deck in my bag, but need to wait 4 days before I can turn it in! Also got raid tonight so I'm expecting some epic upgrades (Helm/Leg/Neck)!

    ****Also don't flame me because I'm low on hit. Hit rating IS NOT REQUIRED as a death knight tank. I'm expertise capped so I won't get my death strikes dodged and I'm not on interrupt duty.****

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khossan View Post
    2. (Sigil) That sigil is BiS and it's recommended for everyone to buy it, if not you already got a heroic one and get a major upgrade by buying something else.

    3. (Enigneering??) Engineering pretty much suck for tanks. Sure, a epic helm wich you will replace after some weeks of raiding and a belt enchant who can backfire and wipe your raid (If backfired on X time (MT;ing Cho'gall etc)).
    Yeah, of course the sigil is BiS, but BiS relic is the least important of all BiS, which is what my point was. But replacing a frustrating 318 is a bit different as we discuessed.

    About engineering:

    Yes, the helm is awesome. <3 cogwheels. But a large part of your advantage is going to be the +armor gloves (20% uptime when macro'ed) and the healing potion gloves.

    (Nowadays, belts can backfire but your gloves are your guaranteed benefits, and all tinkers stack with enchants now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khossan View Post
    Your gear seems to be pretty much perfect at the moment, you'll upgrade your gear in time (Talking about the blues). But as I'm a dedicated tank I do not got any advices for you

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...okila/advanced
    I got the Earthquake Deck in my bag, but need to wait 4 days before I can turn it in! Also got raid tonight so I'm expecting some epic upgrades (Helm/Leg/Neck)!

    ****Also don't flame me because I'm low on hit. Hit rating IS NOT REQUIRED as a death knight tank. I'm expertise capped so I won't get my death strikes dodged and I'm not on interrupt duty.****
    7/10 - mainly for just stam stacking, mastery is amazing for blood dks, going straight wotlk more stam=better tank is a bad way of looking at things, getting stronger blood shields (our equivalent of shield blocking) and thanks to the patch coming soon™ the shields will stack so spamming DS with high amounts of mastery = win, would also advise if you really go for the socket bonus, use a gem with x/mastery or mastery/x

    abom might is overrided by pally might
    improved blood tap not so needed, go full scent of blood
    and as a dk tank, you should never be on the interupt rotation, replace endless winter with either longer dot ticks or better spell hit

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    also a belt buckle
    why swordshattering rune enchant?
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