Gandalf isn't even considered a human and he's come back from death. Pretty sure Gandalf would wipe the floor with Dumbledore.
Clearly gandalf coz dumbledore fell of a bridge in some mines.
I voted for the guy that doesn't have "Dumb" in his name... it's kinda a dead giveaway...
22 miles of hard road
33 years of tough luck
44 skulls buried in the ground
Crawling down through the muck
Ah yeah...
If they were both mortal, Dumbledore would easily win.
I voted for Dumbledore, he's always 100 steps ahead thinking wise of everyone else.
You gotta understand two things. One Saruman was more powerful than him at the time. And two, Saruman was the last person that anyone thought would be corrupted. Saruman was such a kind and benevolent person, it would be like if Jesus was your best friend for your whole life, and then he turned evil. It was such a ridiculously unexpected transformation, nobody that knew Saruman would have ever seen it coming without actually being a mind reader.
To put it in terms everyone can understand, since I assume everyone here plays wow. It'd be like if you were taking a quest from Tirion Fordring, and he turns around, chops your head off, and says, "trolololol I'm a DK bitch!"
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Point proven, if both were mortal, which would make it Dumbledore Vs. Gandalf the Grey then Dumbledore would easily win, no contest. Gandalf became more powerful after he was resurrected by Eru. That was when he then became Gandalf the White.
Nicholas Cage, you know from that wizard movie he was in Face Off?, would kick both of their asses.
How are so many saying that Gandalf would win. LotR Doesn't even have "real" magic, like in WoW etc. Spells there are more like buffs and practical things like making light or fire or scaring the dead away. Gandalf couldn't kill almost anything with magic and mostly used normal means for that, like hes sword (which was magical by the way and pretty good).
So if he would have to fight Dumbledore, he would have to go after him with a sword, which isn't much considering HP universe actually had very powerful magic that could kill, freeze, put people people to sleep or they could just throw fireballs and shoot lightning from their wands.
If would basically be a powerful mage against a guy with a sword.
Read the books. Don't get me wrong, the movies were cool and brought lotr to life in an awesome way, but they butcher the lore so badly on certain points it's not even funny. Gandalf is powerful beyond the comprehension of mortals. Gandalf is very modest, he never uses his full powers unless a desperate situation calls for them. The only thing that would have made him use his full power was the Balrog, and he is IMMUNE TO MAGIC.
Gandalf serves Illuvatar and the secret fire. Illuvatar is the most powerful of the Valar, the gods that created the universe. The secret fire is his spirit. At any time Gandalf can call on the secret fire and destroy virtually anything. The only things he'd be unable to destroy are the one ring, and the Balrog. Using that much power weakens Gandalf though, that's why he doesn't go around blasting it at every orc, wraith and goblin that moves.
In other words. Gandalf could obliterate a foe on the level of Deathwing in one hit. Dumbledore would be literally nothing for him.
Then why was he playing a cheerleader in most battles and didn't use any magic? He could have saved countless lives. I have read the books by the way and he basically just let children fight and die, not to mention a lot of soldiers. He could just have cleared the battlefield with 1 spell if he was so powerful. Instead he was just riding around, cheering people and occasionally whacking an orc with hes sword.
And about the immortal part, that may be true although he did die fighting the Balrog. After that, he was given time to to only finish hes work but not remain. But let's assume he was immortal, even then, Dumbledore could have just trapped him in ice or sent him into another dimension or something.