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  1. #221
    I'm not huge into metal but I'm familiar enough...Metallica wins, by alot.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelodalix View Post
    Likely.



    No. Absolutely not.
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    Iron Maiden is pretty much a pioneer of early metal. All of those metal bands would say they were inspired by Iron Maiden - except Metallica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldjman View Post
    ... Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

    Iron Maiden is pretty much a pioneer of early metal. All of those metal bands would say they were inspired by Iron Maiden - except Metallica.
    If I remember it right, I actually think Metallica was inspired by Iron Maiden

  4. #224
    Like all 4, but since my taste keeps shifting I never have one on top. If we're talking current years, I'm interested in how Anthrax will work out now that Joey Belladona is back. Recently saw Metallica in Rock in Rio, they're doing pretty well. Their show still took a beating from Slipknot's, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldjman View Post
    ... Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

    Iron Maiden is pretty much a pioneer of early metal. All of those metal bands would say they were inspired by Iron Maiden - except Metallica.
    I know what I'm talking about. You seemingly don't. Maiden pioneered metal, sure, but so did shit like Venom, Death, Judas Priest, Sabbath, Rainbow etc. I'm not trying to take credit away from them but to say they were more important than Anthrax is just plain asinine.

  6. #226
    Machine Head would be VERY appropirate as warm-up, since Machine Head's music involves elements from all the Big Four. Oh that and their new album is amazing.
    Or, since the big 4, are ... you know, Thrash, they should have Robb Flynn and Phil Demmel coming together as Vio-Lence instead, god that band was so fucking insane, and so much better than Machine Head.

    On topic: It's hard to choose a favourite. If I have to pick a favourite, I guess it would be Metallica, just based on the fact that they have a far bigger number of "really good" songs than the other bands (imo), from the 80s ofc.
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  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelodalix View Post
    I know what I'm talking about. You seemingly don't. Maiden pioneered metal, sure, but so did shit like Venom, Death, Judas Priest, Sabbath, Rainbow etc. I'm not trying to take credit away from them but to say they were more important than Anthrax is just plain asinine.
    Putting any band in the same category with Black Sabbath as a pioneer is like saying Chris Columbus was with the Vikings when America was discovered.

  8. #228
    I've liked Metallica since I was six. Megadeth is also amazing, though.

    On a different topic. I've been listening to the new Megadeth material. Man, metal has come a long way since Dazed and Confused.
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  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelodalix View Post
    I know what I'm talking about. You seemingly don't. Maiden pioneered metal, sure, but so did shit like Venom, Death, Judas Priest, Sabbath, Rainbow etc. I'm not trying to take credit away from them but to say they were more important than Anthrax is just plain asinine.
    No, it isn't. Iron Maiden are listed as influences from almost every subgenre of metal out there-from thrash to death to power to speed even so called nu metal bands list Iron Maiden as an influence. The same cannot be said about Anthrax no matter how good they are.

    As another example, look how many metal bands have covered Maiden-from big name bands to super obscure bands from places like Slovakia. There's dozens of Maiden tribute albums out there, again, with bands from pretty much the entire metal spectrum. The same can be said for Metallica, Sabbath, Motorhead, etc...the same cannot be said for Anthrax.

  10. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldjman View Post
    ... Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

    Iron Maiden is pretty much a pioneer of early metal. All of those metal bands would say they were inspired by Iron Maiden - except Metallica.
    some say Iron Maiden started the new wave of BRITISH heavy metal ;D

  11. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldjman View Post
    ... Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

    Iron Maiden is pretty much a pioneer of early metal. All of those metal bands would say they were inspired by Iron Maiden - except Metallica.
    ^ This! Let's have a little music history, shall we?
    Metal started with Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath inspired a lot of people into turning their music up, write darker songs, and having their drummer go mental on the drumset. This started the whole genre. After Sabbath, there was a lot of bands who followed through and kept the metal spirit alive, but the most famous ones are Deep Purple and, of course, Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden influenced a lot of other bands, and became what I would call "The new sound", be cause they took the doom'ish metal which Sabbath did, and the powerful metal-rock that Deep Purple did, and made it fast and even more powerful. This made a lot of people go into metal, and Iron Maiden is still considered one of the Gods of Metal. But the band that really made metal to what it is today, is Judas Priest. Judas Priest got inspired by Iron Maiden to move away from the glam-like rock they played, and they released their British Steel album in 1980 (as far as I remember)
    That album changed the metal genre forever, and made it to what it is today. Later they released the Painkiller album, which is still considered the best metal album of all time amongst many metalheads.

  12. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galvanise View Post
    some say Iron Maiden started the new wave of BRITISH heavy metal ;D
    Well, Black Sabbath was earlier british heavy metal group, so fail here too :P

    Anyway, IM is extremely boring group. Every track is exactly the same, I don't know, how they changed a vocalist 3 times without any changes how the IM vocal sounds :P

  13. #233
    Slayer/Metallica/megadeth/Anthrax

    I choose Slayer because their material is more solid than Metallica, they didnt made anything very good since the black album

    But I think Metallica are the one with the better impact on the heavy metal scene.

    On my personal big four, I would remove Anthrax and put Testament instead

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    I have a fairly love/ hate relationship with Thrash as a whole, but I enjoy Metallica a fair amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptoos View Post
    Well, Black Sabbath was earlier british heavy metal group, so fail here too :P

    Anyway, IM is extremely boring group. Every track is exactly the same, I don't know, how they changed a vocalist 3 times without any changes how the IM vocal sounds :P
    Because Steve Harris, the bassplayer, writes the music along with Adrian. Bruce just writes the lyrics, not the actual music. Having said that, I enjoy Maidens old stuff, up to around "Fear of the Dark" after that it simply became too prog, to much wank and too hazy. But saying that the vocal sound never changed heaviely impies that you are deaf, if you can't tell Paul Di'anno, Bruce Dickinson and Blaze Bayley apart. Their new stuff is nothing but a snoozefest. And to be fair, he is right, Sabbath started Heavy Metal as awhole, but the so called "NWOBHM" started a bit later (hence the N = NEW), with the bands Diamond Head, Iron Maiden, Saxon, Motorhead and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirusianna View Post
    ^ This! Let's have a little music history, shall we?
    Metal started with Black Sabbath. Black Sabbath inspired a lot of people into turning their music up, write darker songs, and having their drummer go mental on the drumset. This started the whole genre. After Sabbath, there was a lot of bands who followed through and kept the metal spirit alive, but the most famous ones are Deep Purple and, of course, Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden influenced a lot of other bands, and became what I would call "The new sound", be cause they took the doom'ish metal which Sabbath did, and the powerful metal-rock that Deep Purple did, and made it fast and even more powerful. This made a lot of people go into metal, and Iron Maiden is still considered one of the Gods of Metal. But the band that really made metal to what it is today, is Judas Priest. Judas Priest got inspired by Iron Maiden to move away from the glam-like rock they played, and they released their British Steel album in 1980 (as far as I remember)
    That album changed the metal genre forever, and made it to what it is today. Later they released the Painkiller album, which is still considered the best metal album of all time amongst many metalheads.
    Not to mention Judas Priest was the band who brought the whole "biker, chains and leather" look to metal, before that you couldn't tell a metalhead and a hippy apart, look at Ozzy and Iommi in the 70's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phuongvi View Post
    Slayer/Metallica/megadeth/Anthrax

    I choose Slayer because their material is more solid than Metallica, they didnt made anything very good since the black album

    But I think Metallica are the one with the better impact on the heavy metal scene.

    On my personal big four, I would remove Anthrax and put Testament instead


    Well if it helps, Gary Holt has been replacing Hanneman during a few of the shows, so that's a little bit of Testament

    ---------- Post added 2011-09-29 at 10:19 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Jistu View Post
    I've liked Metallica since I was six. Megadeth is also amazing, though.

    On a different topic. I've been listening to the new Megadeth material. Man, metal has come a long way since Dazed and Confused.
    Would be a shame if it hadn't would it? I mean Daze and Confused came out in '67 by the Yardbirds... I mean that's over 40 years ago, would be a damn shame if it hadn't changed just a tad. Interesting enough though, the new Megadeth material, such as "Public Enemy No.1" is a very straight-forward old school sounding song.
    Last edited by Venziir; 2011-09-29 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Because Steve Harris, the bassplayer, writes the music along with Adrian. Bruce just writes the lyrics, not the actual music. Having said that, I enjoy Maidens old stuff, up to around "Fear of the Dark" after that it simply became too prog, to much wank and too hazy. But saying that the vocal sound never changed heaviely impies that you are deaf, if you can't tell Paul Di'anno, Bruce Dickinson and Blaze Bayley apart. Their new stuff is nothing but a snoozefest. And to be fair, he is right, Sabbath started Heavy Metal as awhole, but the so called "NWOBHM" started a bit later (hence the N = NEW), with the bands Diamond Head, Iron Maiden, Saxon, Motorhead and so forth.

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    Not to mention Judas Priest was the band who brought the whole "biker, chains and leather" look to metal, before that you couldn't tell a metalhead and a hippy apart, look at Ozzy and Iommi in the 70's.

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    Well if it helps, Gary Holt has been replacing Hanneman during a few of the shows, so that's a little bit of Testament

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    Would be a shame if it hadn't would it? I mean Daze and Confused came out in '67 by the Yardbirds... I mean that's over 40 years ago, would be a damn shame if it hadn't changed just a tad. Interesting enough though, the new Megadeth material, such as "Public Enemy No.1" is a very straight-forward old school sounding song.
    I agree with you completely
    Judas Priest certainly started the 'metal' style, with leather and choppers, and bands like Manowar and Motorhead took it further. I am forever grateful that these bands exist - They started a most enjoyable community, and created a culture which helped a lot of people, while making awesome music!
    I will always be in the mindset that, even though we might like different bands, we are all metalheads, and thus all brothers. It might just be the Manowar fan in me, but I can't help but see it that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirusianna View Post
    I agree with you completely
    Judas Priest certainly started the 'metal' style, with leather and choppers, and bands like Manowar and Motorhead took it further. I am forever grateful that these bands exist - They started a most enjoyable community, and created a culture which helped a lot of people, while making awesome music!
    I will always be in the mindset that, even though we might like different bands, we are all metalheads, and thus all brothers. It might just be the Manowar fan in me, but I can't help but see it that way
    Heh to qoute Manowar - "I walked inside so I could hear, and the guy besides me gave me a beer, he had his fist up in the air and called me brother, said my friends are over there. They called themselves immortal, they are the truest of the true. And in that very moment I was born again like YOU! For heavy metal we will die!"... Corny as it is, it does capture the spirit of unison.... Oh and as for Judas Priest - they are awesome, simple as that, I'm so bummed that I missed them on their current Epitaph tour.

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  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Raptoos View Post
    Well, Black Sabbath was earlier british heavy metal group, so fail here too :P

    Anyway, IM is extremely boring group. Every track is exactly the same, I don't know, how they changed a vocalist 3 times without any changes how the IM vocal sounds :P
    Wow, dude, did you smoke, like, a truckload of crack before posting? Even a DEAF MAN can tell the differences between Paul Di'Anno, Blaze Bayley, and Bruce fucking Dickinson.

    Are you seriously so hard of hearing you can't tell the difference between these 3 guys:
    Bruce Dickinson:


    Paul Di'Anno:


    Blaze Bayley:


    Also, to Zirusianna, you said this "Judas Priest got inspired by Iron Maiden to move away from the glam-like rock they played, and they released their British Steel album in 1980 (as far as I remember)" you remember wrong bro. Iron Maiden's first album came out in '80. Priest released Sad Wings of Destiny in 1976, Sin After Sin in 1977, and Stained Class in 1978, and those albums weren't glam rock. See here:
    1976(love the lead riff in this song!):


    1977:


    And Venziir...Gary Holt isn't from Testament, he's from Exodus, heh.
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  19. #239
    I think they're all awful.

  20. #240
    The lack of Iron Maiden... displeases me.

    But I suppose if I must choose between these lesser things, I shall go with Metallica.

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