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    Quote Originally Posted by Zefie View Post
    They seem to think I don't understand what AP Sion does when all I'm saying is that he isn't as good lategame and frankly I don't think he's worth a pick at all.
    *shrug* Depends on what you're playing. Normals or Low Elo even Evelynn or Twitch work just fine. AP Sion can easily stomp a game like that. Not everyone's playing in Dignitas or TSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zefie View Post
    They seem to think I don't understand what AP Sion does when all I'm saying is that he isn't as good lategame and frankly I don't think he's worth a pick at all.
    Well, that would mean AD Sion isn't worth a pick either. He's just not that sort of champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Well, that would mean AD Sion isn't worth a pick either. He's just not that sort of champion.
    lol, what?

    If an AD sion is prepared for inevitable CC w/ either Cleanse or a QSS - he's going to heal his entire team w/ his massive damage...how does that not scream late game power to you?

    Granted, if your team is built around an engage w/ his ulti ready....you'll lose to a well executed poke comp. But honestly...below 1700 who is actually pulling off team poke comps w/ any sort of efficiency?
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    New updates to the new patch: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20...est-beta-realm

    Including nerfs to Mundo, buffs to Irelia and some reversions of changes from the first update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxigen View Post
    lol, what?

    If an AD sion is prepared for inevitable CC w/ either Cleanse or a QSS - he's going to heal his entire team w/ his massive damage...how does that not scream late game power to you?

    Granted, if your team is built around an engage w/ his ulti ready....you'll lose to a well executed poke comp. But honestly...below 1700 who is actually pulling off team poke comps w/ any sort of efficiency?
    That's not what I am talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenFrodo View Post
    New updates to the new patch: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20...est-beta-realm

    Including nerfs to Mundo, buffs to Irelia and some reversions of changes from the first update.
    >buffing Morello's Evil Tome EVEN MORE
    >Varus buffed from gamebreaking to instant win

    I do like the new skin splash art though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenFrodo View Post
    New updates to the new patch: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20...est-beta-realm

    Including nerfs to Mundo, buffs to Irelia and some reversions of changes from the first update.
    Including the Talon change.

    Also, LOL @ the Morello's Evil Tome buff. I know it's the exact same as on Executioner's Calling, but no one ever buys that item.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    That's not what I am talking about.
    So you were disputing that AD Sion is a lategame character but huge lategame power isn't what you are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Including the Talon change.

    Also, LOL @ the Morello's Evil Tome buff. I know it's the exact same as on Executioner's Calling, but no one ever buys that item.
    But Executioner's Calling is a terrible item. Morello's was already a decent item, now it has a healing reduction effect that lasts 8 seconds on a 20 second (!) cooldown. That's nearly 50% uptime. It's just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenFrodo View Post
    New updates to the new patch: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20...est-beta-realm

    Including nerfs to Mundo, buffs to Irelia and some reversions of changes from the first update.
    here are the skins in game. :P
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OnS7...1&feature=plcp
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlpYT...5&feature=plcp
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    Amazing. You have nothing to do now that people who aren't you have cleared Ulduar.
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    PS: Pandas are awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zefie View Post
    So you were disputing that AD Sion is a lategame character but huge lategame power isn't what you are talking about?
    No to both of those conclusions.

    What I was suggesting is champions are balanced on an axis of opportunity. Where one might be stronger in a game phase over the other. Setup A favors early dominance, setup B favors late game dominance. There is no reason to bother with either if you are not going to consider the trade off or cost of opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    No to both of those conclusions.

    What I was suggesting is champions are balanced on an axis of opportunity. Where one might be stronger in a game phase over the other. Setup A favors early dominance, setup B favors late game dominance. There is no reason to bother with either if you are not going to consider the trade off or cost of opportunity.
    You seem to misunderstand, I never said "Sion is bad lategame THUS he is a bad pick." I said "Sion is bad lategame AND is a bad pick."

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    Ok, time to try some jungle Ezreal in a custom....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaitoc View Post
    But Executioner's Calling is a terrible item. Morello's was already a decent item, now it has a healing reduction effect that lasts 8 seconds on a 20 second (!) cooldown. That's nearly 50% uptime. It's just silly.
    Probably has nothing to do with these ridiculous sustain/protect the kogmaw comps :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaitoc View Post
    But Executioner's Calling is a terrible item. Morello's was already a decent item, now it has a healing reduction effect that lasts 8 seconds on a 20 second (!) cooldown. That's nearly 50% uptime. It's just silly.
    What? Executioner's Calling is an amazing item. For mid-game/against sustain laners as bruisers it's godlike. Get an Executioners against a lanewick, and watch him cry as you destroy him. Same if they have a Mundo. It's also godlike if there's an enemy Soraka, regardless of which lane you're in.

    Should also qualify it has amazing Sustain potential, as well as crit. Trynd/Gangplank etc.
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    Well Jungle Ezreal wasn't really good....

    But maybe because my mid failed.

    Of course I got reported by a sucky Corki calling me a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    Well Jungle Ezreal wasn't really good....

    But maybe because my mid failed.

    Of course I got reported by a sucky Corki calling me a troll.
    So you tested Jungle Ez in a custom game and got reported? That's hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StylesClashv3 View Post
    What? Executioner's Calling is an amazing item. For mid-game/against sustain laners as bruisers it's godlike. Get an Executioners against a lanewick, and watch him cry as you destroy him. Same if they have a Mundo. It's also godlike if there's an enemy Soraka, regardless of which lane you're in.

    Should also qualify it has amazing Sustain potential, as well as crit. Trynd/Gangplank etc.
    Maybe I'm just not playing the right champions. I've never been into any of the champions who use it very often. Seems to be a very select number in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StylesClashv3 View Post
    What? Executioner's Calling is an amazing item. For mid-game/against sustain laners as bruisers it's godlike. Get an Executioners against a lanewick, and watch him cry as you destroy him. Same if they have a Mundo. It's also godlike if there's an enemy Soraka, regardless of which lane you're in.

    Should also qualify it has amazing Sustain potential, as well as crit. Trynd/Gangplank etc.
    I don't understand the hate on EC either. Its a cheap, counterriffic (yes, I said it) item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaitoc View Post
    Maybe I'm just not playing the right champions. I've never been into any of the champions who use it very often. Seems to be a very select number in my experience.
    It's not your fault, everyone seems to overlook it as an item. I love it, especially against Lanewick when I'm playing a melee bruiser. It has such a short CD, for 50% healing reduce.

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