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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperial Gaming View Post
    backstab + weapon sigils + 150% signet = death
    = boring

    but to each their own, i guess^^ i for one prefer to actually use a build with both high skill cap and high skill reward =)
    i've had sort of enough "button 1, button 2, button 3, something dies" going on in wow and swtor already.

    and no, i'm not trying to flame anyone, just my honest opinion :]
    i really hope anet will make ridiculously easy and/or crazy burst builds unviable, as it tends to hurt competitive pvp overall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sy View Post
    = boring

    but to each their own, i guess^^ i for one prefer to actually use a build with both high skill cap and high skill reward =)
    i've had sort of enough "button 1, button 2, button 3, something dies" going on in wow and swtor already.

    and no, i'm not trying to flame anyone, just my honest opinion :]
    i really hope anet will make ridiculously easy and/or crazy burst builds unviable, as it tends to hurt competitive pvp overall
    Don't bother, they are just trying to inflate their post count with messages that look like they are contributing so they can post their guild recruitment post without getting removed by edge

    I saw it in the warrior thread and others, they don't offer much more than a string of abilities and a one word comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    Don't bother, they are just trying to inflate their post count
    i don't care much tbh, as i was stating my opinion regarding this type of builds in general, not necessarily directed at a specific person

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    Sy, go make fun d/p and p/d builds

    And don't neglect the second weapon set
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    Sy, go make fun d/p and p/d builds
    but i love p/d!
    it may very well become my ranged set, at least for either pvp or pve, depending on which melee sets i use.

    also, is it wrong that the first thing that appeared in my mind when i read "d/p" wasn't really, y'know... gw2 related? <_<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sy View Post
    but i love p/d!
    it may very well become my ranged set, at least for either pvp or pve, depending on which melee sets i use.

    also, is it wrong that the first thing that appeared in my mind when i read "d/p" wasn't really, y'know... gw2 related? <_<
    I could make a dagger joke but I'll refrain

    Go brainstorm stuff

    Idea: p/d with ambush trap. Set trap, shoot, thieves guild, laughter
    Pd could very well be a good choice for trap based build with the dual skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    I could make a dagger joke but I'll refrain
    i had a hard time doing the sa--
    err...
    *difficult. i had a difficult time doing the same!
    Idea: p/d with ambush trap. Set trap, shoot, thieves guild, laughter
    Pd could very well be a good choice for trap based build with the dual skill
    mhm. but i dunno if i really like the thief-companions, gotta test that on high level once the game is live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sy View Post
    i had a hard time doing the sa--
    err...
    *difficult. i had a difficult time doing the same!

    mhm. but i dunno if i really like the thief-companions, gotta test that on high level once the game is live.
    I know the thieves guild thieves really did well, even in structured pvp match

    I didn't test ambush trap but I would think its a dagger thieves guild thief. Since there's a trait that summons them and the terminology on guild I would think that these thief allies are fairly consistent and standardized
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    this just in: Anet has decided to give thieves axes as an additional weapon, both offhand and main hand

    i managed to find this leaked dev video of an Axe/dagger thief

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSa0Xg-YadY

    he has a shortbow too
    Screw you glytch, my heart soared with joy when i read that, then i open the link and see the title...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    I know the thieves guild thieves really did well, even in structured pvp match

    I didn't test ambush trap but I would think its a dagger thieves guild thief. Since there's a trait that summons them and the terminology on guild I would think that these thief allies are fairly consistent and standardized
    eh, the thieves guild was pretty glass cannony i know if a victim of my axes stayed near them for a good 3-4 throws they died, they also can not eat a drake breathe btw, they just implode at that one, but from what i noticed they did a good bit of damage and were ass holes (especially that dagger dagger one they use CnD as well as a smoke screen wall that stops projectiles)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    Screw you glytch, my heart soared with joy when i read that, then i open the link and see the title...

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    eh, the thieves guild was pretty glass cannony i know if a victim of my axes stayed near them for a good 3-4 throws they died, they also can not eat a drake breathe btw, they just implode at that one, but from what i noticed they did a good bit of damage and were ass holes (especially that dagger dagger one they use CnD as well as a smoke screen wall that stops projectiles)
    Perhaps they inheret stats bc mine were pretty durable
    The only time I saw my thieves die was on the chieftain npc but they lasted enough for a quick solo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    Perhaps they inheret stats bc mine were pretty durable
    The only time I saw my thieves die was on the chieftain npc but they lasted enough for a quick solo
    then again i'm pretty sure you're smarter then the average dumbass who stacks power and precision and wonders why he got wrecked in 3 hits -_-'

    I wouldn't be surprised if they do take your stats, pets do, i know that they take stats from you based on some % and then your beast mastery skill thingy gives them a larger %
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    then again i'm pretty sure you're smarter then the average dumbass who stacks power and precision and wonders why he got wrecked in 3 hits -_-'
    Really hoping ANet realizes that people complaining about being underpowered were doing that.

    Such builds should be "viable" but they should definitely still be squishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    then again i'm pretty sure you're smarter then the average dumbass who stacks power and precision and wonders why he got wrecked in 3 hits -_-'

    I wouldn't be surprised if they do take your stats, pets do, i know that they take stats from you based on some % and then your beast mastery skill thingy gives them a larger %
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    Really hoping ANet realizes that people complaining about being underpowered were doing that.

    Such builds should be "viable" but they should definitely still be squishy.
    Oh they were viable, but you can't go 1v1 like EVER, if you get to sneak away into the back line and just rain down destruction then you're going to be devastating EVERYBODY, they aren't -bad- persay, but they aren't going to be sturdy in the least (they're great for defending keeps, that's for sure)
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    So has the utility skill Ambush always "called in a fellow thief" or was it changed from something else/a new skill?

    Suddenly we have pets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeWurrum View Post
    So has the utility skill Ambush always "called in a fellow thief" or was it changed from something else/a new skill?

    Suddenly we have pets!
    i dont recall seeing it before the "press beta" when all the other skills were introduced to give us 4 skills of each skill type

    but yes, technically we can have up to 4 thieves (ambush, thieves guild x2 and the revive traits that im assuming is capped at 1 thief)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    i dont recall seeing it before the "press beta" when all the other skills were introduced to give us 4 skills of each skill type

    but yes, technically we can have up to 4 thieves (ambush, thieves guild x2 and the revive traits that im assuming is capped at 1 thief)
    nah i've seen someone with 3 thiefs running around and they popped the whirlwind dagger thing so i don't think it's capped at 1 thief, however the thiefs are pretty freaking squishy, so they're more of an added support thing and not some huge pet thing...

    TBH i'm glad they gave thieves "pets" because everyone else has them, why not allow a "pet" based thief if you want to play that way? No one ever said thieves had to work alone anyway =D!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durzlla View Post
    nah i've seen someone with 3 thiefs running around and they popped the whirlwind dagger thing so i don't think it's capped at 1 thief, however the thiefs are pretty freaking squishy, so they're more of an added support thing and not some huge pet thing...

    TBH i'm glad they gave thieves "pets" because everyone else has them, why not allow a "pet" based thief if you want to play that way? No one ever said thieves had to work alone anyway =D!
    well ambush couldnt do it since it has a 20s duration on a (at best) 36 second CD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glytch View Post
    well ambush couldnt do it since it has a 20s duration on a (at best) 36 second CD
    *shrugs* idk what sort of voodoo he was pulling i just know i saw 3 mobs labeled "thief" with him and he was spinning around shooting daggers everywhere, i assumed it was a trait where he dodged and summoned one or something im not a huge thief person lol
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    I found ambush to be awesome for... well... ambushing. There were a couple times during the beta event when, for example, 1 or 2 people would be escorting a supply. If you set up an ambush across the road at some points (like where the road passes under a cliff, or has to go through an archway), and then hug the wall; I often found that the person/people escorting would get distracted by the thief "pet(s)" and I could shadowstep in and wreck 1 of them or force them to run away. Some of the traps are a whole lot of fun when using them in choke points. I never did find a real good use for shadow trap though, but then, I may have just herped/derped on that one.

    Using both Needle trap and Ambush can be fun as well. Mainly because Needle's poison lasts so very long, and combined with ambush right on top of it, you have an immobilized, poisoned foe with one thief on them and then you can come popping in. Traps are fun!

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